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Fight voter fraud! Not sure that’s going to be the GOP’s path back to relevance. Also not surprised that’s the path they take though. Wouldn’t Devin Nunes would be the perfect point person?RaceBannon said:
Gee another "flip" weeks after the electionCirrhosisDawg said:Make that 46-7, a 39 seat advantage for Ds in the California house delegation after another Central Valley seat is on the verge of flipping. Seems like a place the GOP would want to compete for votes. They would have to give up on scapegoating foreigners and fighting long lost cultural wars first though. How many more losses will it take?
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California would be a red state if they kept illegals from voting.RaceBannon said:
Gee another "flip" weeks after the electionCirrhosisDawg said:Make that 46-7, a 39 seat advantage for Ds in the California house delegation after another Central Valley seat is on the verge of flipping. Seems like a place the GOP would want to compete for votes. They would have to give up on scapegoating foreigners and fighting long lost cultural wars first though. How many more losses will it take?
Not sure anything will be enough to stop that -
Hondo is a serial strawman ass rapist.2001400ex said:
California would be a red state if they kept illegals from voting.RaceBannon said:
Gee another "flip" weeks after the electionCirrhosisDawg said:Make that 46-7, a 39 seat advantage for Ds in the California house delegation after another Central Valley seat is on the verge of flipping. Seems like a place the GOP would want to compete for votes. They would have to give up on scapegoating foreigners and fighting long lost cultural wars first though. How many more losses will it take?
Not sure anything will be enough to stop that -
Democrats find and count ballots until they win. Criminals one and all.RaceBannon said:
Gee another "flip" weeks after the electionCirrhosisDawg said:Make that 46-7, a 39 seat advantage for Ds in the California house delegation after another Central Valley seat is on the verge of flipping. Seems like a place the GOP would want to compete for votes. They would have to give up on scapegoating foreigners and fighting long lost cultural wars first though. How many more losses will it take?
Not sure anything will be enough to stop that -
https://foxnews.com/opinion/karl-rove-obamas-redistricting-idea-would-benefit-democrats-not-democracy
To achieve this, Obama and Holder argue, Americans should elect more Democrats (how remarkably convenient) to state legislatures and create appointed states commissions to handle redistricting.
California and Iowa already have commissions like this in place. Voters in Colorado, Michigan, Missouri and Utah approved creating such commissions in the Nov. 6 midterm elections.
There are more problems with this than just the typical, stale attack on Republicans as “not good for our children” and “not good for our democracy.”
The results of the November midterms show that the former president and his attorney general are inaccurately describing the role of Republicans in redistricting.
As the Cook Political Report’s David Wasserman reported this week, Democratic U.S. House candidates received 53 percent of the total midterm popular vote. So if you follow President Obama’s thinking, this should entitle Democrats to 231 House seats, while giving Republicans 204.
As of Tuesday night, Fox News pegs the new House as having 233 Democrats to 199 Republicans, with three seats undecided – all currently held by Republicans. So right now Democrats are holding slightly more seats than their share of the popular vote and will continue doing so even if Republicans win the three seats yet to be decided.
In California, Democrats received 65 percent of the popular vote in congressional races while Republicans received 34 percent. Yet Democrats won 45 of the state’s 53 U.S. House seats and lead in the remaining race not yet declared – for an 87 percent share of the state’s congressional seats.
In contrast, Republicans won only seven seats for a share of 13 percent of California’s U.S. House delegation.
But rather than splitting the delegation between 46 Democrats and seven Republicans (assuming Democrats win the one seat still undecided), President Obama’s popular vote standard would point to split of 35 Democrats and 18 Republicans in the state’s congressional delegation – more than twice the number of Republicans who were elected.
California is not alone. In Iowa, Democrats received 50 percent of the popular vote and Republicans 47 percent, yet Democrats won three – or 75 percent – of the state’s four House seats while Republicans won one seat – or 25 percent of the House delegation.
President Obama’s popular vote standard would suggest that Democrats should get two seats and Republicans should get the other two. A commission also does Iowa’s redistricting.
Here’s a good-faith test for Obama and Holder: Will they now strongly denounce the gerrymandering of California’s congressional seats and urge reforms that lead to Republicans gaining a proper share of the state’s congressional delegations? -
Surprise surprise, the attribute projecting asshats at Fox want their dumb viewers to think that there's no difference between gerrymandering and competitive redistricting
Fox is shit, Race. You know that, somewhere deep down -
Maybe Karl can go find some boxes of ballots in car trunks and closets. works for the commies.
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Numbers are numbersBearsWiin said:Surprise surprise, the attribute projecting asshats at Fox want their dumb viewers to think that there's no difference between gerrymandering and competitive redistricting
Fox is shit, Race. You know that, somewhere deep down
Tell me where they are wrong?
The democrats and repubs love to gerrymander. That isn't the issue. The numbers say the proportions are right
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We don't have a PR system. Plurality vote systems tend to overweight the winning party. Overweighting the winning party is different than having the losing party gain a majority of seats, which is what gerrymandering allows for.RaceBannon said:
Numbers are numbersBearsWiin said:Surprise surprise, the attribute projecting asshats at Fox want their dumb viewers to think that there's no difference between gerrymandering and competitive redistricting
Fox is shit, Race. You know that, somewhere deep down
Tell me where they are wrong?
The democrats and repubs love to gerrymander. That isn't the issue. The numbers say the proportions are right
Obama and his fundamental change to America can go fuck themselves
Rove says that CA's system is gerrymandered. It is not, and he fucking knows it. He wants people to think that it is, instead of being the nonpartisan commission's product, because he wants people to think that it is no better than existing gerrymandered systems, so people won't want to change them.
Gerrymandering affects representative behavior between elections, in addition to affecting electoral outcomes. Everyone should want an end to gerrymandering if they want better behavior from their representatives. If you'd rather bitch and poont partisan fingers, then your part of the problem instead of the solution. -
He didn't say that. He was using Obama's complaints as an illustration
His main point was that the numbers work for the votes in representation
You should probably focus on the OP that thinks national vote totals on local elections mean something. Obama thinks so too
Everyone wants an end to the other party gerrymandering.
