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bananasnblondes
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...and brings in an EXPERIENCED OC he can hand the keys to Eason and the rest of the offense to...
Who are some possibilities?
(Besides Sark)
Who are some possibilities?
(Besides Sark)
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Hire Tedford away from Fresno.
Hire PGOS
Hire whoever Purdue's OC is
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Tedford isn't happeningPostGameOrangeSlices said:Hire Tedford away from Fresno.
Hire PGOS
Hire whoever Purdue's OC is
You're an idiot
It's Brohm's offense at Purdue to start with ... and you're talking about the same Purdue team that scored 13 points yesterday -
Nuss!
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Tequilla said:
Tedford isn't happeningPostGameOrangeSlices said:Hire Tedford away from Fresno.
Hire PGOS
Hire whoever Purdue's OC is
You're an idiot
It's Brohm's offense at Purdue to start with ... and you're talking about the same Purdue team that scored 13 points yesterday
I may be an idiot, but I look like Einstein compared to you. Ask anyone.
On Purdue, I didnt see their score yesterday so Ill concede that point. I did see them take Ohio State to the woodshed with balance. Brohm doesnt call the plays. -
Eason the savior. What could go wrong? A lot faith in Jacob.
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Ohio State's defense is a disaster ...PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tequilla said:
Tedford isn't happeningPostGameOrangeSlices said:Hire Tedford away from Fresno.
Hire PGOS
Hire whoever Purdue's OC is
You're an idiot
It's Brohm's offense at Purdue to start with ... and you're talking about the same Purdue team that scored 13 points yesterday
I may be an idiot, but I look like Einstein compared to you. Ask anyone.
On Purdue, I didnt see their score yesterday so Ill concede that point. I did see them take Ohio State to the woodshed with balance. Brohm doesnt call the plays.
I like Purdue and what they are doing a lot ... but I'm not sure going full spread is the answer for where we are as a program. -
Fuck anyone named Jake. #yankoffjecornel said:Eason the savior. What could go wrong? A lot faith in Jacob.
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Im a fan of power spreads like what chip did at Oregon. Running out of the spread and incorporating TEs that can catch into that scheme is tough to stop.Tequilla said:
Ohio State's defense is a disaster ...PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tequilla said:
Tedford isn't happeningPostGameOrangeSlices said:Hire Tedford away from Fresno.
Hire PGOS
Hire whoever Purdue's OC is
You're an idiot
It's Brohm's offense at Purdue to start with ... and you're talking about the same Purdue team that scored 13 points yesterday
I may be an idiot, but I look like Einstein compared to you. Ask anyone.
On Purdue, I didnt see their score yesterday so Ill concede that point. I did see them take Ohio State to the woodshed with balance. Brohm doesnt call the plays.
I like Purdue and what they are doing a lot ... but I'm not sure going full spread is the answer for where we are as a program.
It's also not overly complicated horseshit. -
So the question that I'd ask is as an OC ... what would you have done differently this year?
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Almost everything. Starting with removing 75% of the playbookTequilla said:So the question that I'd ask is as an OC ... what would you have done differently this year?
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I said this before we hired Hamdan, Jeff Horton who is the OC & RB coach at SDSU.bananasnblondes said:...and brings in an EXPERIENCED OC he can hand the keys to Eason and the rest of the offense to...
Who are some possibilities?
(Besides Sark)
But I'm a guy that likes an offense with a great running game and running backs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Horton
https://goaztecs.com/staff.aspx?staff=354
SDSU beat both of the Pac12 teams last year that we lost to.
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Tequilla said:
So the question that I'd ask is as an OC ... what would you have done differently this year?
Not really everything, we actually started only doing stupid stuff 50% of the time as the season has progressed. -
Too lazy to say "everything" ...
What I can tell from Hamden's philosophy this year is as follows:- Strength of the team are the RBs
- Browning is going to make a handful of really bad decisions per game - minimize what he's asked to do
- WRs are largely average depending on what kind of growth Ty Jones would make
- TEs more good blockers than great receivers without Hunter Bryant
- Have a good defense that is going to minimize points allowed so don't give up short fields through mistakes
I don't think going spread this year would be the answer because it'd move more of the emphasis away from the team's strength.
Now looking forward to next year ... still will have some good RBs but will have a far more talented receiving group if for no other reason than everybody being a year older. I could see a little more spreading of the field next year with a QB that will likely be trusted to make throws throughout the field.
I tend to fall under the umbrella that we have some player issues this year that limit what we are able to do starting on the OL and extending to the QB position. We're behind last year's offensive numbers but not materially. - Strength of the team are the RBs
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Good poast.Tequilla said:Too lazy to say "everything" ...
What I can tell from Hamden's philosophy this year is as follows:- Strength of the team are the RBs
- Browning is going to make a handful of really bad decisions per game - minimize what he's asked to do
- WRs are largely average depending on what kind of growth Ty Jones would make
- TEs more good blockers than great receivers without Hunter Bryant
- Have a good defense that is going to minimize points allowed so don't give up short fields through mistakes
I don't think going spread this year would be the answer because it'd move more of the emphasis away from the team's strength.
Now looking forward to next year ... still will have some good RBs but will have a far more talented receiving group if for no other reason than everybody being a year older. I could see a little more spreading of the field next year with a QB that will likely be trusted to make throws throughout the field.
I tend to fall under the umbrella that we have some player issues this year that limit what we are able to do starting on the OL and extending to the QB position. We're behind last year's offensive numbers but not materially. - Strength of the team are the RBs
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I am also. It's a run first philosophy and seems to scheme open receivers including a lot of TE throws. Unfortunately it wouldn't really suit Eason. More a Yankoff style. Can't see it with Sirmon, Morris and possibly Huard.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im a fan of power spreads like what chip did at Oregon. Running out of the spread and incorporating TEs that can catch into that scheme is tough to stop.Tequilla said:
Ohio State's defense is a disaster ...PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tequilla said:
Tedford isn't happeningPostGameOrangeSlices said:Hire Tedford away from Fresno.
Hire PGOS
Hire whoever Purdue's OC is
You're an idiot
It's Brohm's offense at Purdue to start with ... and you're talking about the same Purdue team that scored 13 points yesterday
I may be an idiot, but I look like Einstein compared to you. Ask anyone.
On Purdue, I didnt see their score yesterday so Ill concede that point. I did see them take Ohio State to the woodshed with balance. Brohm doesnt call the plays.
I like Purdue and what they are doing a lot ... but I'm not sure going full spread is the answer for where we are as a program.
It's also not overly complicated horseshit. -
As for the stupid stuff ... that's 81% tied to the fact that we suck at just lining up and executing basic shit (particularly in the red zone).Mad_Son said:Tequilla said:So the question that I'd ask is as an OC ... what would you have done differently this year?
Not really everything, we actually started only doing stupid stuff 50% of the time as the season has progressed.
I get that Hamden's trying SOMETHING here ... it's still FS though because at some point EVERYBODY knows that we're trying SOMETHING
It's fair to get on him for that ... goes back to what I was saying about knowing your own tendencies and breaking them. -
Thank youSwaye said:
Good poast.Tequilla said:Too lazy to say "everything" ...
What I can tell from Hamden's philosophy this year is as follows:- Strength of the team are the RBs
- Browning is going to make a handful of really bad decisions per game - minimize what he's asked to do
- WRs are largely average depending on what kind of growth Ty Jones would make
- TEs more good blockers than great receivers without Hunter Bryant
- Have a good defense that is going to minimize points allowed so don't give up short fields through mistakes
I don't think going spread this year would be the answer because it'd move more of the emphasis away from the team's strength.
Now looking forward to next year ... still will have some good RBs but will have a far more talented receiving group if for no other reason than everybody being a year older. I could see a little more spreading of the field next year with a QB that will likely be trusted to make throws throughout the field.
I tend to fall under the umbrella that we have some player issues this year that limit what we are able to do starting on the OL and extending to the QB position. We're behind last year's offensive numbers but not materially. - Strength of the team are the RBs
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bananasnblondes said:
...and brings in an EXPERIENCED OC he can hand the keys to Eason and the rest of the offense to...
Who are some possibilities?
(Besides Sark)
Gilby, Uncle Denny, Mike Price and 1.5L of Old Grand-dad would produce better results than this shit.
#snohomeys
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whuggy said:
I am also. It's a run first philosophy and seems to scheme open receivers including a lot of TE throws. Unfortunately it wouldn't really suit Eason. More a Yankoff style. Can't see it with Sirmon, Morris and possibly Huard.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im a fan of power spreads like what chip did at Oregon. Running out of the spread and incorporating TEs that can catch into that scheme is tough to stop.Tequilla said:
Ohio State's defense is a disaster ...PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tequilla said:
Tedford isn't happeningPostGameOrangeSlices said:Hire Tedford away from Fresno.
Hire PGOS
Hire whoever Purdue's OC is
You're an idiot
It's Brohm's offense at Purdue to start with ... and you're talking about the same Purdue team that scored 13 points yesterday
I may be an idiot, but I look like Einstein compared to you. Ask anyone.
On Purdue, I didnt see their score yesterday so Ill concede that point. I did see them take Ohio State to the woodshed with balance. Brohm doesnt call the plays.
I like Purdue and what they are doing a lot ... but I'm not sure going full spread is the answer for where we are as a program.
It's also not overly complicated horseshit.
You dont need a running QB to do spread varients. When this offense is at it's best this year we are spreading the field and running Gaskin or finding the open receiver.
The problem with this offense we have now is it takes things from spread, west coast, pro style, power, boise state motion, trickeration...but everything is half baked. Stick to one or two things and do them well. -
Yeah I agree with that. There is no identity. But Chip's spread was always better with QB's that could run. I can't think of one who couldn't.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
I am also. It's a run first philosophy and seems to scheme open receivers including a lot of TE throws. Unfortunately it wouldn't really suit Eason. More a Yankoff style. Can't see it with Sirmon, Morris and possibly Huard.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im a fan of power spreads like what chip did at Oregon. Running out of the spread and incorporating TEs that can catch into that scheme is tough to stop.Tequilla said:
Ohio State's defense is a disaster ...PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tequilla said:
Tedford isn't happeningPostGameOrangeSlices said:Hire Tedford away from Fresno.
Hire PGOS
Hire whoever Purdue's OC is
You're an idiot
It's Brohm's offense at Purdue to start with ... and you're talking about the same Purdue team that scored 13 points yesterday
I may be an idiot, but I look like Einstein compared to you. Ask anyone.
On Purdue, I didnt see their score yesterday so Ill concede that point. I did see them take Ohio State to the woodshed with balance. Brohm doesnt call the plays.
I like Purdue and what they are doing a lot ... but I'm not sure going full spread is the answer for where we are as a program.
It's also not overly complicated horseshit.
You dont need a running QB to do spread varients. When this offense is at it's best this year we are spreading the field and running Gaskin or finding the open receiver.
The problem with this offense we have now is it takes things from spread, west coast, pro style, power, boise state motion, trickeration...but everything is half baked. Stick to one or two things and do them well. -
The Boise State pre snap motion shit drives me up the fucking wall. It's needlessly complicated for the skill players and doesn't really confuse the defense so I'm not sure why the fuck you see it 90% of the plays.
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I think it's unique to Pete and he will have a hard time abandoning it. Combine the motion shit with a running spread if you need to. Just cut out 75% of the fucking playbook and get good at something, instead of being mediocre at everythingwhuggy said:The Boise State pre snap motion shit drives me up the fucking wall. It's needlessly complicated for the skill players and doesn't really confuse the defense so I'm not sure why the fuck you see it 90% of the plays.
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At this point I wouldn't be opposed to Helfrich
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Lockie?whuggy said:
Yeah I agree with that. There is no identity. But Chip's spread was always better with QB's that could run. I can't think of one who couldn't.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
I am also. It's a run first philosophy and seems to scheme open receivers including a lot of TE throws. Unfortunately it wouldn't really suit Eason. More a Yankoff style. Can't see it with Sirmon, Morris and possibly Huard.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im a fan of power spreads like what chip did at Oregon. Running out of the spread and incorporating TEs that can catch into that scheme is tough to stop.Tequilla said:
Ohio State's defense is a disaster ...PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tequilla said:
Tedford isn't happeningPostGameOrangeSlices said:Hire Tedford away from Fresno.
Hire PGOS
Hire whoever Purdue's OC is
You're an idiot
It's Brohm's offense at Purdue to start with ... and you're talking about the same Purdue team that scored 13 points yesterday
I may be an idiot, but I look like Einstein compared to you. Ask anyone.
On Purdue, I didnt see their score yesterday so Ill concede that point. I did see them take Ohio State to the woodshed with balance. Brohm doesnt call the plays.
I like Purdue and what they are doing a lot ... but I'm not sure going full spread is the answer for where we are as a program.
It's also not overly complicated horseshit.
You dont need a running QB to do spread varients. When this offense is at it's best this year we are spreading the field and running Gaskin or finding the open receiver.
The problem with this offense we have now is it takes things from spread, west coast, pro style, power, boise state motion, trickeration...but everything is half baked. Stick to one or two things and do them well. -
I really liked running hard with the double tight formation and running play action off of it. We’ve been needlessly cute with the play calling. The team responds to the power identity and the running is strong enough to open up the passing. Just stick with it and go lateral occasionally not integrally.
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Not so much an answer or reply, but my thoughts after reading this.Tequilla said:Too lazy to say "everything" ...
What I can tell from Hamden's philosophy this year is as follows:- Strength of the team are the RBs
- Browning is going to make a handful of really bad decisions per game - minimize what he's asked to do
- WRs are largely average depending on what kind of growth Ty Jones would make
- TEs more good blockers than great receivers without Hunter Bryant
- Have a good defense that is going to minimize points allowed so don't give up short fields through mistakes
I don't think going spread this year would be the answer because it'd move more of the emphasis away from the team's strength.
Now looking forward to next year ... still will have some good RBs but will have a far more talented receiving group if for no other reason than everybody being a year older. I could see a little more spreading of the field next year with a QB that will likely be trusted to make throws throughout the field.
I tend to fall under the umbrella that we have some player issues this year that limit what we are able to do starting on the OL and extending to the QB position. We're behind last year's offensive numbers but not materially.
We don't need a savior. We need a QB with a better cumulative GPA than 1.5 or C-, which is about where I'd rank Browning as a passing QB. And I'm trying to be fair, and not mean. But any starting Pac12 QB has to be able to hit the receivers hands in front of his body on a 10 yard crossing route, which is something I have never, ever seen Browning do. Not once.
Was he a huge improvement over Cyler Miles? Fuck Yes. He was a flat F.
Keith Price would've probably won more games under Pete than Browning has. He sure as hell threw the ball better, even though he hid an obvious shoulder injury in years 2 & 3 that radically changed his throwing motion.
I also want to see a QB that gets in a receivers face when he drops a pass, spits some F-bombs in his face and threatens to never look his way again. In other words, a Leader. - Strength of the team are the RBs
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Ironic, most of this bored wanted more run and a lot less Jake. Its happened and suddenly Hamden sucks.Tequilla said:Too lazy to say "everything" ...
What I can tell from Hamden's philosophy this year is as follows:- Strength of the team are the RBs
- Browning is going to make a handful of really bad decisions per game - minimize what he's asked to do
- WRs are largely average depending on what kind of growth Ty Jones would make
- TEs more good blockers than great receivers without Hunter Bryant
- Have a good defense that is going to minimize points allowed so don't give up short fields through mistakes
- Strength of the team are the RBs
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We can't even snap the ball correctly on a 4th and 1 play in hostile territory.Baseman said:
Ironic, most of this bored wanted more run and a lot less Jake. Its happened and suddenly Hamden sucks.Tequilla said:Too lazy to say "everything" ...
What I can tell from Hamden's philosophy this year is as follows:- Strength of the team are the RBs
- Browning is going to make a handful of really bad decisions per game - minimize what he's asked to do
- WRs are largely average depending on what kind of growth Ty Jones would make
- TEs more good blockers than great receivers without Hunter Bryant
- Have a good defense that is going to minimize points allowed so don't give up short fields through mistakes
- Strength of the team are the RBs
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Unfortunately Pete's always been uncomfortable with 2nd & long - which is anything over 3.5 yards, and always calls a pass play that rarely succeeds and results in 3rd & long where he has to pass. Play calling kills more drives than mistakes and lack of execution.AEB said:I really liked running hard with the double tight formation and running play action off of it. We’ve been needlessly cute with the play calling. The team responds to the power identity and the running is strong enough to open up the passing. Just stick with it and go lateral occasionally not integrally.
