So when did it become forbidden to question the veracity of someone's story?
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When facts give way to emotion, credibility is "felt," not established or attacked. Listening to all the pundits who said "she seems" credible, or "she sounded" credible, while overlooking all missing or contradictory facts, demonstrates that many professional journalists no longer know what facts are, or why they are of utmost importance.
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#accusemetoo.
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What pisses me off is that you have Republicans playing this same game. She doesn't seem credible, her story makes absolutely no fucking sense with even the most cursory of examination.
She was supposedly sexually assaulted and then she just leaves the house, leaving her girlfriend with boys who just tried to rape her. She never says anything to her friend and she has no recollection of how she got home. Her story is pure crap. -
You can't read news either. All of that has been questioned ad nauseum. Why can't you question the real issue? Whether Kavanaugh was being honest.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
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Hondo, I don't speak dumbfuck. I've told you that now a number of times. Are people still claiming her testimony was "credible" Hondo? That's what I was addressing. Now I know you're a dipshit who has great difficulty following the topic at hand. So according to Hondo, the "real" issue now isn't whether Ford was telling the truth, it's now whether Kavanaugh was honest. And as Hondo established yesterday, saying you're from DC when you really live in Maryland is a lie.2001400ex said:
You can't read news either. All of that has been questioned ad nauseum. Why can't you question the real issue? Whether Kavanaugh was being honest.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
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What happened 35 years ago is he said she said. And frankly I don't care unless it was egregious. What I do care about it him today. And his response and honesty. HTHSFGbob said:
Hondo, I don't speak dumbfuck. I've told you that now a number of times. Are people still claiming her testimony was "credible" Hondo? That's what I was addressing. Now I know you're a dipshit who has great difficulty following the topic at hand. So according to Hondo, the "real" issue now isn't whether Ford was telling the truth, it's now whether Kavanaugh was honest. And as Hondo established yesterday, saying you're from DC when you really live in Maryland is a lie.2001400ex said:
You can't read news either. All of that has been questioned ad nauseum. Why can't you question the real issue? Whether Kavanaugh was being honest.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
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Oh, I didn't realize the "issue" was what Hondo the fucking moron cares about. I must have missed that day of the hearing.2001400ex said:
What happened 35 years ago is he said she said. And frankly I don't care unless it was egregious. What I do care about it him today. And his response and honesty. HTHSFGbob said:
Hondo, I don't speak dumbfuck. I've told you that now a number of times. Are people still claiming her testimony was "credible" Hondo? That's what I was addressing. Now I know you're a dipshit who has great difficulty following the topic at hand. So according to Hondo, the "real" issue now isn't whether Ford was telling the truth, it's now whether Kavanaugh was honest. And as Hondo established yesterday, saying you're from DC when you really live in Maryland is a lie.2001400ex said:
You can't read news either. All of that has been questioned ad nauseum. Why can't you question the real issue? Whether Kavanaugh was being honest.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
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I told you what I care about. HTHSFGbob said:
Oh, I didn't realize the "issue" was what Hondo the fucking moron cares about. I must have missed that day of the hearing.2001400ex said:
What happened 35 years ago is he said she said. And frankly I don't care unless it was egregious. What I do care about it him today. And his response and honesty. HTHSFGbob said:
Hondo, I don't speak dumbfuck. I've told you that now a number of times. Are people still claiming her testimony was "credible" Hondo? That's what I was addressing. Now I know you're a dipshit who has great difficulty following the topic at hand. So according to Hondo, the "real" issue now isn't whether Ford was telling the truth, it's now whether Kavanaugh was honest. And as Hondo established yesterday, saying you're from DC when you really live in Maryland is a lie.2001400ex said:
You can't read news either. All of that has been questioned ad nauseum. Why can't you question the real issue? Whether Kavanaugh was being honest.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
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I didn't start this thread to talk about what you care about Hondo. Frankly I don't give a shit about your feelings.2001400ex said:
I told you what I care about. HTHSFGbob said:
Oh, I didn't realize the "issue" was what Hondo the fucking moron cares about. I must have missed that day of the hearing.2001400ex said:
What happened 35 years ago is he said she said. And frankly I don't care unless it was egregious. What I do care about it him today. And his response and honesty. HTHSFGbob said:
Hondo, I don't speak dumbfuck. I've told you that now a number of times. Are people still claiming her testimony was "credible" Hondo? That's what I was addressing. Now I know you're a dipshit who has great difficulty following the topic at hand. So according to Hondo, the "real" issue now isn't whether Ford was telling the truth, it's now whether Kavanaugh was honest. And as Hondo established yesterday, saying you're from DC when you really live in Maryland is a lie.2001400ex said:
You can't read news either. All of that has been questioned ad nauseum. Why can't you question the real issue? Whether Kavanaugh was being honest.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
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Sounds like you care.SFGbob said:
I didn't start this thread to talk about what you care about Hondo. Frankly I don't give a shit about your feelings.2001400ex said:
I told you what I care about. HTHSFGbob said:
Oh, I didn't realize the "issue" was what Hondo the fucking moron cares about. I must have missed that day of the hearing.2001400ex said:
What happened 35 years ago is he said she said. And frankly I don't care unless it was egregious. What I do care about it him today. And his response and honesty. HTHSFGbob said:
Hondo, I don't speak dumbfuck. I've told you that now a number of times. Are people still claiming her testimony was "credible" Hondo? That's what I was addressing. Now I know you're a dipshit who has great difficulty following the topic at hand. So according to Hondo, the "real" issue now isn't whether Ford was telling the truth, it's now whether Kavanaugh was honest. And as Hondo established yesterday, saying you're from DC when you really live in Maryland is a lie.2001400ex said:
You can't read news either. All of that has been questioned ad nauseum. Why can't you question the real issue? Whether Kavanaugh was being honest.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
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This thread is a great example of what Hondo does around here. He has no interest and even less ability to discuss the topic of the thread, he is dying to deflect and make every thread a discussion about him.2001400ex said:
Sounds like you care.SFGbob said:
I didn't start this thread to talk about what you care about Hondo. Frankly I don't give a shit about your feelings.2001400ex said:
I told you what I care about. HTHSFGbob said:
Oh, I didn't realize the "issue" was what Hondo the fucking moron cares about. I must have missed that day of the hearing.2001400ex said:
What happened 35 years ago is he said she said. And frankly I don't care unless it was egregious. What I do care about it him today. And his response and honesty. HTHSFGbob said:
Hondo, I don't speak dumbfuck. I've told you that now a number of times. Are people still claiming her testimony was "credible" Hondo? That's what I was addressing. Now I know you're a dipshit who has great difficulty following the topic at hand. So according to Hondo, the "real" issue now isn't whether Ford was telling the truth, it's now whether Kavanaugh was honest. And as Hondo established yesterday, saying you're from DC when you really live in Maryland is a lie.2001400ex said:
You can't read news either. All of that has been questioned ad nauseum. Why can't you question the real issue? Whether Kavanaugh was being honest.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
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The MSM is now in high dudgeon because Trump "mocked" Ford's story. Why shouldn't her story be mocked? It makes no fucking sense and an even better question, why the fuck isn't the MSM interested in mocking her story? If the parties were reversed you'd have the MSM and the pop culture outlets savaging her story.
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If only there was a way for investigators to talk to both Kavanaugh and Ford to determine what really happened and who's telling the truth.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-03/fbi-said-to-lack-white-house-approval-to-talk-to-kavanaugh-ford
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Ford got yanked from the crowd and escorted to the head table where she was questioned directly by Royalty.
She made it past the Bouncer and didn’t need a ticket. -
Republican senators agree with the msm.SFGbob said:The MSM is now in high dudgeon because Trump "mocked" Ford's story. Why shouldn't her story be mocked? It makes no fucking sense and an even better question, why the fuck isn't the MSM interested in mocking her story? If the parties were reversed you'd have the MSM and the pop culture outlets savaging her story.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/03/politics/jeff-flake-donald-trump-christine-blasey-ford/index.html -
The last thing Ford should want is the FBI talking to her.
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I don't give a shit. Her story isn't credible and the fact that some weak kneed Republicans got upset with Trump doesn't make her story credible.2001400ex said:
Republican senators agree with the msm.SFGbob said:The MSM is now in high dudgeon because Trump "mocked" Ford's story. Why shouldn't her story be mocked? It makes no fucking sense and an even better question, why the fuck isn't the MSM interested in mocking her story? If the parties were reversed you'd have the MSM and the pop culture outlets savaging her story.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/03/politics/jeff-flake-donald-trump-christine-blasey-ford/index.html -
There are holes there, but candidly the only thing that I have focused on is the timing. If it didn't matter all these years, leave it alone.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
That said, I can imagine someone being off on some details, or at least not wanting to commit to them in a high stakes setting like this, and still remember the evening's main event. I was at plenty of parties where 'stuff' I'll never forget happened but how I got there, who I went and left with, the precise date and time, etc. are gone to history. I'm not trying to defend her but that part of it doesn't strike me as automatically fishy as it seems to with other people. Like, if I got my ass kicked at a party 36 years ago, I'd remember that and I'd remember who did it, and I'd probably remember where it happened and what caused it. The rest? Date, time, how I got there, how I left, etc.? I can see forgetting that shit.
But she's a PhD and hasn't lived her life in dysfunction from all accounts, so I am suspicious about how "traumatic" it was, or at least how traumatic it continued to be for her throughout her life, and of course the timing. So just like you with Treyvon, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest Kavy was a bit of a self-entitled prick who could become aggressive when sauced (who among us doesn't know a dozen people like that) and could easily be the type of teen-aged boy who might push too far with a co-ed and then wake up the next day and think, "fuck. I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this."
I just don't care. It would have been chintresting if he'd tried the old American approach of admission, contrition and axing forgiveness. Lord knows the American people tend to forgive those who admit wrong-doing. Hard to say in today's political climate.
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Noc what you think.SFGbob said:
I don't give a shit. Her story isn't credible and the fact that some weak kneed Republicans got upset with Trump doesn't make her story credible.2001400ex said:
Republican senators agree with the msm.SFGbob said:The MSM is now in high dudgeon because Trump "mocked" Ford's story. Why shouldn't her story be mocked? It makes no fucking sense and an even better question, why the fuck isn't the MSM interested in mocking her story? If the parties were reversed you'd have the MSM and the pop culture outlets savaging her story.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/03/politics/jeff-flake-donald-trump-christine-blasey-ford/index.html -
You're confused the real question is was a crime committed?2001400ex said:
You can't read news either. All of that has been questioned ad nauseum. Why can't you question the real issue? Whether Kavanaugh was being honest.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
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It's not my opinion that her story isn't credible. The facts as they exist make her story not credible. I leaving that feeling and emoting up to dumb Kunt's like you Dawg.
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Gay bob likes “facts.”SFGbob said:It's not my opinion that her story isn't credible. The facts as they exist make her story not credible. I leaving that feeling and emoting up to dumb Kunt's like you Dawg.
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Hurtful.creepycoug said:
There are holes there, but candidly the only thing that I have focused on is the timing. If it didn't matter all these years, leave it alone.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
That said, I can imagine someone being off on some details, or at least not wanting to commit to them in a high stakes setting like this, and still remember the evening's main event. I was at plenty of parties where 'stuff' I'll never forget happened but how I got there, who I went and left with, the precise date and time, etc. are gone to history. I'm not trying to defend her but that part of it doesn't strike me as automatically fishy as it seems to with other people. Like, if I got my ass kicked at a party 36 years ago, I'd remember that and I'd remember who did it, and I'd probably remember where it happened and what caused it. The rest? Date, time, how I got there, how I left, etc.? I can see forgetting that shit.
But she's a PhD and hasn't lived her life in dysfunction from all accounts, so I am suspicious about how "traumatic" it was, or at least how traumatic it continued to be for her throughout her life, and of course the timing. So just like you with Treyvon, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest Kavy was a bit of a self-entitled prick who could become aggressive when sauced (who among us doesn't know a dozen people like that) and could easily be the type of teen-aged boy who might push too far with a co-ed and then wake up the next day and think, "fuck. I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this."
I just don't care. It would have been chintresting if he'd tried the old American approach of admission, contrition and axing forgiveness. Lord knows the American people tend to forgive those who admit wrong-doing. Hard to say in today's political climate.
I need some me time now.
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Like your retarded running mate Hondo, do you ever back up your fucking mouth?CirrhosisDawg said:
Gay bob likes “facts.”SFGbob said:It's not my opinion that her story isn't credible. The facts as they exist make her story not credible. I leaving that feeling and emoting up to dumb Kunt's like you Dawg.
He’s tuff like that.
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How about if none of the other people you claimed were at the party said they can recall ever being there, including someone who was your best friend at the time? There's nothing about her story that's credible.creepycoug said:
There are holes there, but candidly the only thing that I have focused on is the timing. If it didn't matter all these years, leave it alone.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
That said, I can imagine someone being off on some details, or at least not wanting to commit to them in a high stakes setting like this, and still remember the evening's main event. I was at plenty of parties where 'stuff' I'll never forget happened but how I got there, who I went and left with, the precise date and time, etc. are gone to history. I'm not trying to defend her but that part of it doesn't strike me as automatically fishy as it seems to with other people. Like, if I got my ass kicked at a party 36 years ago, I'd remember that and I'd remember who did it, and I'd probably remember where it happened and what caused it. The rest? Date, time, how I got there, how I left, etc.? I can see forgetting that shit.
But she's a PhD and hasn't lived her life in dysfunction from all accounts, so I am suspicious about how "traumatic" it was, or at least how traumatic it continued to be for her throughout her life, and of course the timing. So just like you with Treyvon, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest Kavy was a bit of a self-entitled prick who could become aggressive when sauced (who among us doesn't know a dozen people like that) and could easily be the type of teen-aged boy who might push too far with a co-ed and then wake up the next day and think, "fuck. I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this."
I just don't care. It would have been chintresting if he'd tried the old American approach of admission, contrition and axing forgiveness. Lord knows the American people tend to forgive those who admit wrong-doing. Hard to say in today's political climate. -
Can you back that up?SFGbob said:
Like your retarded running mate Hondo, do you ever back up your fucking mouth?CirrhosisDawg said:
Gay bob likes “facts.”SFGbob said:It's not my opinion that her story isn't credible. The facts as they exist make her story not credible. I leaving that feeling and emoting up to dumb Kunt's like you Dawg.
He’s tuff like that.
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Provide a link.SFGbob said:
How about if none of the other people you claimed were at the party said they can recall ever being there, including someone who was your best friend at the time? There's nothing about her story that's credible.creepycoug said:
There are holes there, but candidly the only thing that I have focused on is the timing. If it didn't matter all these years, leave it alone.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
That said, I can imagine someone being off on some details, or at least not wanting to commit to them in a high stakes setting like this, and still remember the evening's main event. I was at plenty of parties where 'stuff' I'll never forget happened but how I got there, who I went and left with, the precise date and time, etc. are gone to history. I'm not trying to defend her but that part of it doesn't strike me as automatically fishy as it seems to with other people. Like, if I got my ass kicked at a party 36 years ago, I'd remember that and I'd remember who did it, and I'd probably remember where it happened and what caused it. The rest? Date, time, how I got there, how I left, etc.? I can see forgetting that shit.
But she's a PhD and hasn't lived her life in dysfunction from all accounts, so I am suspicious about how "traumatic" it was, or at least how traumatic it continued to be for her throughout her life, and of course the timing. So just like you with Treyvon, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest Kavy was a bit of a self-entitled prick who could become aggressive when sauced (who among us doesn't know a dozen people like that) and could easily be the type of teen-aged boy who might push too far with a co-ed and then wake up the next day and think, "fuck. I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this."
I just don't care. It would have been chintresting if he'd tried the old American approach of admission, contrition and axing forgiveness. Lord knows the American people tend to forgive those who admit wrong-doing. Hard to say in today's political climate. -
I said there were some holes. Let's stick with the male version of this, since none of us has any idea what it feels like to not want someone of the opposite gender pushing for sex.SFGbob said:
How about if none of the other people you claimed were at the party said they can recall ever being there, including someone who was your best friend at the time? There's nothing about her story that's credible.creepycoug said:
There are holes there, but candidly the only thing that I have focused on is the timing. If it didn't matter all these years, leave it alone.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
That said, I can imagine someone being off on some details, or at least not wanting to commit to them in a high stakes setting like this, and still remember the evening's main event. I was at plenty of parties where 'stuff' I'll never forget happened but how I got there, who I went and left with, the precise date and time, etc. are gone to history. I'm not trying to defend her but that part of it doesn't strike me as automatically fishy as it seems to with other people. Like, if I got my ass kicked at a party 36 years ago, I'd remember that and I'd remember who did it, and I'd probably remember where it happened and what caused it. The rest? Date, time, how I got there, how I left, etc.? I can see forgetting that shit.
But she's a PhD and hasn't lived her life in dysfunction from all accounts, so I am suspicious about how "traumatic" it was, or at least how traumatic it continued to be for her throughout her life, and of course the timing. So just like you with Treyvon, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest Kavy was a bit of a self-entitled prick who could become aggressive when sauced (who among us doesn't know a dozen people like that) and could easily be the type of teen-aged boy who might push too far with a co-ed and then wake up the next day and think, "fuck. I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this."
I just don't care. It would have been chintresting if he'd tried the old American approach of admission, contrition and axing forgiveness. Lord knows the American people tend to forgive those who admit wrong-doing. Hard to say in today's political climate.
Let's say when I was 15 I was drunk and got my ass kicked at a party.
Things I know I'd remember:
the fact of getting my ass kicked;
who did it;
why they did it; and
that they did it at a party where people I went to school with were in attendance.
Things I think I'd in all likelihood remember:
where it happened;
what year I was in school;
what general time of year it was (summer vs. winter in Grays Harbor are easily distinguishable);
some of who else was there;
where I went afterwards to lick my wounds.
Things I could just as easily forget or remember incorrectly:
when I got there;
who I went with;
who I left with; and
one or more particular people who I thought were there.
So, no, I wouldn't say there was nothing credible in that story. You tend to go with the absolute rationale 10 out 10, and rigidly resist any notion of even one scintilla of contrary consideration. You don't seem to be aware or want to admit that you live and operate in a world that just doesn't work that way 98% of the time.
It is perfectly safe to acknowledge something that could in theory cut in favor of a Hondo conclusion and still make or faithfully adhere to your overall point.
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She's a lying cunt
REAL talk
I just spent 5 years working with a young woman and training her in the ways of project management. She failed and we fired her. First words out of her mouth were harassment
I don't believe accusers. Get me some fucking proof
