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Yup. Good call.
But I’d say all of PAC sucks -
At least people are showing up to Husky games. The other schools are in deep shit with attendance, except for maybe WSU because their stadium holds like 30k.
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When was the last time we led the conference in attendance?
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At least Husky crowd? 69,000??Crawfish said:At least people are showing up to Husky games. The other schools are in deep shit with attendance, except for maybe WSU because their stadium holds like 30k.
Puh
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USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
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Playoffs or bustPostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
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Ram games are looking pretty full these days too.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
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USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
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This is a fact. If they hire a half decent coach, they'll be back to fucking in no time.PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
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PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign. -
Actual fans >>> tickets printed
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Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
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They have every advantage you could want. They’re stupid as hell but eventually they’ll stumble into a great coach again. When they do, they’ll be a force.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
We have to win as much as possible while they’re still down. -
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special. -
I respect Chris Petersen for running a clean program.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign. -
HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special.
It was between Helton and Ed fucking Orgeron. -
#fuckthatCrawfish said:
I respect Chris Petersen for running a clean program.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign. -
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special. -
Even with a 25% success rate at hitting on a great coach that puts them likely to hire another one in the next 5 or 6 years.UWhuskytskeet said:
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special.
We need to seize this window. -
HillsboroDuck said:
Even with a 25% success rate at hitting on a great coach that puts them likely to hire another one in the next 5 or 6 years.UWhuskytskeet said:
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special.
We need to seize this window.
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But the way UW is trending now puts a lot of pressure on SC. UW is a legit alternative for players wanting to compete for a natty and to go to the NFL. That didn't really exist in the Pac since the Don James days, as in USC and another program being natty good at the same time -
Fucking this. John Robinson ain't walking through that door anytime soon. Since the early 80s, SC has Carroll, and no one else. SC should always be good. But well coached? Their track record shows that happens about once every 35 years or so.UWhuskytskeet said:
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special. -
I was told USC is a storied blueblood, that they are the premier program of the PAC 12 and #1 with all the top recruits. Everyone else gets their leftovers. That's what they told me.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
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Your window is closing for now and UW too will have to submit to the cyclical nature of CFB. Oregon is on the march again, the sun is dawning on a new era in Eugene.HillsboroDuck said:
Even with a 25% success rate at hitting on a great coach that puts them likely to hire another one in the next 5 or 6 years.UWhuskytskeet said:
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special.
We need to seize this window. -
Last week.UWhuskytskeet said:When was the last time we led the conference in attendance?
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OBK read The Secret and is trying to will a Duck Dynasty into existence.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your window is closing for now and UW too will have to submit to the cyclical nature of CFB. Oregon is on the march again, the sun is dawning on a new era in Eugene.HillsboroDuck said:
Even with a 25% success rate at hitting on a great coach that puts them likely to hire another one in the next 5 or 6 years.UWhuskytskeet said:
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special.
We need to seize this window.
Admirable, but this isn't going to end well -
From a recruiting sizzle fag like you, this makes no sense.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your window is closing for now and UW too will have to submit to the cyclical nature of CFB. Oregon is on the march again, the sun is dawning on a new era in Eugene.HillsboroDuck said:
Even with a 25% success rate at hitting on a great coach that puts them likely to hire another one in the next 5 or 6 years.UWhuskytskeet said:
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special.
We need to seize this window.
You're saying the window is closing while the recruit quality is going up? Every metric is clear in this point.
When you see more Kyler Manu or Jordan Chins on signing day, the window will be closing. -
To be clear, your window is closing two weeks from now. Oregon's 2019 class is #3 in the nation. The team will be amped for this game and show you what its like to play SEC ball. You will lose this game and get a flash of what the future of the PAC 12 is, and see the future title contender.MisterEm said:
From a recruiting sizzle fag like you, this makes no sense.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your window is closing for now and UW too will have to submit to the cyclical nature of CFB. Oregon is on the march again, the sun is dawning on a new era in Eugene.HillsboroDuck said:
Even with a 25% success rate at hitting on a great coach that puts them likely to hire another one in the next 5 or 6 years.UWhuskytskeet said:
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special.
We need to seize this window.
You're saying the window is closing while the recruit quality is going up? Every metric is clear in this point.
When you see more Kyler Manu or Jordan Chins on signing day, the window will be closing. -
What happens if the Huskies beat Oregon? How long does the window stay open?oregonblitzkrieg said:
To be clear, your window is closing two weeks from now. Oregon's 2019 class is #3 in the nation. The team will be amped for this game and show you what its like to play SEC ball. You will lose this game and get a flash of what the future of the PAC 12 is, and see the future title contender.MisterEm said:
From a recruiting sizzle fag like you, this makes no sense.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your window is closing for now and UW too will have to submit to the cyclical nature of CFB. Oregon is on the march again, the sun is dawning on a new era in Eugene.HillsboroDuck said:
Even with a 25% success rate at hitting on a great coach that puts them likely to hire another one in the next 5 or 6 years.UWhuskytskeet said:
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special.
We need to seize this window.
You're saying the window is closing while the recruit quality is going up? Every metric is clear in this point.
When you see more Kyler Manu or Jordan Chins on signing day, the window will be closing.
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Oregon football is dead. No one gave a fuck about the Vegas Bowl, not the team, not the fans. HTH. No one showed up to play. No one wanted to see faggot Freeman give a motivational speech while his fat ass sat on the bench. No one wanted to see the debut of Knight's discount aisle head coach. Only ultra quooks changed previously scheduled plans to watch that shit. HTFH.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your window is closing for now and UW too will have to submit to the cyclical nature of CFB. Oregon is on the march again, the sun is dawning on a new era in Eugene.HillsboroDuck said:
Even with a 25% success rate at hitting on a great coach that puts them likely to hire another one in the next 5 or 6 years.UWhuskytskeet said:
And before stumbling on Carroll, they has Paul Hackett, Larry Smith, and Ted Tollner. I'll roll the dice on the next fuck-up they hire.HillsboroDuck said:
Their alumni may be better than ours but they let them hire Kiffin, Sark and Helton consecutively.PurpleJ said:
Disagree. Their alumni aren't like ours. They will clean house until they win again and they aren't afraid to cheat either. I respect them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleJ said:
USC will be fine. They are the premier program on the west coast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:USC is in real danger. If they fuck up the replacement hire for Helton this season or next (no way the guy makes it beyond that), they could really be in trouble. We are already starting to land recruits with SC offers, imagine a few more NY6 bowls with the continuity of our coaching staff...
The only time they have done something in the last 10 years it was due to a transcendent QB who could dance around in the pocket for 3 minutes before a receiver finally got open.
They didn't do shit when Kelly was at Oregon, struggle vs Shaw, and now with Petersen at UW they aren't going to be doing any dominating any time soon.
Once the apathy sets in, it might be hard to climb out of that bog. Carrol was legit and the rest of the Pac was not during his reign.
Their alumni are nothing special.
We need to seize this window.