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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    AZDuck said:

    Dude, this guy's demeanor is horrible. Did anyone even prep him to be a witness? He reminds me of a rookie CID agent that wanted to fight the defense attorney and almost single-handedly lost a rape case I prosecuted.


    The guy is a nerd, who the hell kept a daily calendar when they were 17? Better yet, who keeps those calendars? Highly organized, intelligent, obsessive compulsives. I'm sure he wasn't what would have been considered cool in school but he was most definitely a good student who if he were 17 today would be really into computers.
    Now the argument is. He was a nerd. A nerd would never hurt a fly.
    Great melt down as always
    He is just repeating his talking points.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Her polygraph test was a joke. Complete utter foolishness. Two questions and they were not specific. Polygraph tests require specific single subject questions.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    you clearly know nothing about polygraphs

    The SOP is to ask the examinee a bunch of questions that are obvious "yes" or "no" questions that are irrelevant to the topic.

    Then the polygrapher asks a VERY LIMITED number of questions, usually no more than 2-4... and the polygraph will hit or not hit on "deceptive response."

    Too many questions and the machine will start hitting or not hitting on every question.
    He only asked two. They were about the written story line prepared while the examiner was not in the room. It was heavily changed, scribbled and had parts inserted and redacted.

    "The interviewer asked Ford whether “any part” of her statement was false or whether she made up any detail included in her initial report."

    Funny experts think this isn't a valid poly. But please enlighten me.
    who?
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/experts-doubt-claim-of-truthful-polygraph-result-from-kavanaugh-accuser

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/09/report-ford-polygraph-expert-says-victims-like-ford-you-believe-them-dont-ask-specific-questions/
    That first story is entirely accurate and does not support your assertion. The second story you link is much more slanted but still does not support your assertion.

    As I've said, all a poly does is tell you whether a subject is being "deceptive" or "evasive," which is pretty much what the first story says. Also, polygraphs aren't admissible in court, for the very good reason that they have to be interpreted and that interpretation is subjective.

    Smart defense attorneys have ex-FBI, CID, or NCIS polygraphers on speed dial, because the investigative poly will almost invariably come along with the polygrapher, who also tends to be the best interrogator in the office (funny how that works).

    Of course, while the poly isn't admissible, anything the accused says *is.* Which is the real reason for the season in terms of polygraphs.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Her polygraph test was a joke. Complete utter foolishness. Two questions and they were not specific. Polygraph tests require specific single subject questions.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    you clearly know nothing about polygraphs

    The SOP is to ask the examinee a bunch of questions that are obvious "yes" or "no" questions that are irrelevant to the topic.

    Then the polygrapher asks a VERY LIMITED number of questions, usually no more than 2-4... and the polygraph will hit or not hit on "deceptive response."

    Too many questions and the machine will start hitting or not hitting on every question.
    He only asked two. They were about the written story line prepared while the examiner was not in the room. It was heavily changed, scribbled and had parts inserted and redacted.

    "The interviewer asked Ford whether “any part” of her statement was false or whether she made up any detail included in her initial report."

    Funny experts think this isn't a valid poly. But please enlighten me.
    who?
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/experts-doubt-claim-of-truthful-polygraph-result-from-kavanaugh-accuser

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/09/report-ford-polygraph-expert-says-victims-like-ford-you-believe-them-dont-ask-specific-questions/
    That first story is entirely accurate and does not support your assertion. The second story you link is much more slanted but still does not support your assertion.

    As I've said, all a poly does is tell you whether a subject is being "deceptive" or "evasive," which is pretty much what the first story says. Also, polygraphs aren't admissible in court, for the very good reason that they have to be interpreted and that interpretation is subjective.

    Smart defense attorneys have ex-FBI, CID, or NCIS polygraphers on speed dial, because the investigative poly will almost invariably come along with the polygrapher, who also tends to be the best interrogator in the office (funny how that works).

    Of course, while the poly isn't admissible, anything the accused says *is.* Which is the real reason for the season in terms of polygraphs.

    How common is it for the person being given the polygraph to be asked only two questions?
  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373
    SFGbob said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Her polygraph test was a joke. Complete utter foolishness. Two questions and they were not specific. Polygraph tests require specific single subject questions.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    you clearly know nothing about polygraphs

    The SOP is to ask the examinee a bunch of questions that are obvious "yes" or "no" questions that are irrelevant to the topic.

    Then the polygrapher asks a VERY LIMITED number of questions, usually no more than 2-4... and the polygraph will hit or not hit on "deceptive response."

    Too many questions and the machine will start hitting or not hitting on every question.
    He only asked two. They were about the written story line prepared while the examiner was not in the room. It was heavily changed, scribbled and had parts inserted and redacted.

    "The interviewer asked Ford whether “any part” of her statement was false or whether she made up any detail included in her initial report."

    Funny experts think this isn't a valid poly. But please enlighten me.
    who?
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/experts-doubt-claim-of-truthful-polygraph-result-from-kavanaugh-accuser

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/09/report-ford-polygraph-expert-says-victims-like-ford-you-believe-them-dont-ask-specific-questions/
    That first story is entirely accurate and does not support your assertion. The second story you link is much more slanted but still does not support your assertion.

    As I've said, all a poly does is tell you whether a subject is being "deceptive" or "evasive," which is pretty much what the first story says. Also, polygraphs aren't admissible in court, for the very good reason that they have to be interpreted and that interpretation is subjective.

    Smart defense attorneys have ex-FBI, CID, or NCIS polygraphers on speed dial, because the investigative poly will almost invariably come along with the polygrapher, who also tends to be the best interrogator in the office (funny how that works).

    Of course, while the poly isn't admissible, anything the accused says *is.* Which is the real reason for the season in terms of polygraphs.

    How common is it for the person being given the polygraph to be asked only two questions?
    fuck off misogynist she was crying due to having to take a plane to take the poly test
    #believewomen
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    SFGbob said:

    AZDuck said:

    Dude, this guy's demeanor is horrible. Did anyone even prep him to be a witness? He reminds me of a rookie CID agent that wanted to fight the defense attorney and almost single-handedly lost a rape case I prosecuted.


    The guy is a nerd, who the hell kept a daily calendar when they were 17? Better yet, who keeps those calendars? Highly organized, intelligent, obsessive compulsives. I'm sure he wasn't what would have been considered cool in school but he was most definitely a good student who if he were 17 today would be really into computers.
    Understandably, BK comes from a world that would be like Mars to a person of your background. To the contrary, being an athlete and a good student in the world of prep schools and money does not translate to your hackneyed stereotype. In his world, he was in all likelihood socially successful and mobile.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    The ironic, cut-off-their-nose-to-spite-their-faces fact is that Kavanaugh, with a passable wife and two daughters, would probably be more favorable to womens rights and issues than almost any other conservative judge Trump might choose.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    SFGbob said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Her polygraph test was a joke. Complete utter foolishness. Two questions and they were not specific. Polygraph tests require specific single subject questions.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    you clearly know nothing about polygraphs

    The SOP is to ask the examinee a bunch of questions that are obvious "yes" or "no" questions that are irrelevant to the topic.

    Then the polygrapher asks a VERY LIMITED number of questions, usually no more than 2-4... and the polygraph will hit or not hit on "deceptive response."

    Too many questions and the machine will start hitting or not hitting on every question.
    He only asked two. They were about the written story line prepared while the examiner was not in the room. It was heavily changed, scribbled and had parts inserted and redacted.

    "The interviewer asked Ford whether “any part” of her statement was false or whether she made up any detail included in her initial report."

    Funny experts think this isn't a valid poly. But please enlighten me.
    who?
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/experts-doubt-claim-of-truthful-polygraph-result-from-kavanaugh-accuser

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/09/report-ford-polygraph-expert-says-victims-like-ford-you-believe-them-dont-ask-specific-questions/
    That first story is entirely accurate and does not support your assertion. The second story you link is much more slanted but still does not support your assertion.

    As I've said, all a poly does is tell you whether a subject is being "deceptive" or "evasive," which is pretty much what the first story says. Also, polygraphs aren't admissible in court, for the very good reason that they have to be interpreted and that interpretation is subjective.

    Smart defense attorneys have ex-FBI, CID, or NCIS polygraphers on speed dial, because the investigative poly will almost invariably come along with the polygrapher, who also tends to be the best interrogator in the office (funny how that works).

    Of course, while the poly isn't admissible, anything the accused says *is.* Which is the real reason for the season in terms of polygraphs.

    How common is it for the person being given the polygraph to be asked only two questions?
    Substantial questions? Very common. The polygrapher asks a lot of easy questions, both right and wrong, to calibrate the machine. Like, where were you born? And then they only ask a couple of substantial questions because the signal-to-noise in the poly goes way down after about 3-4 Qs. That's what I was told by my CID expert witnesses when this came up anyway.

  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    Ford believes Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her. Kavanaugh believes he didn't. Only one has any corroborating evidence for their claims, and it isn't Ford.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Dude61 said:

    Ford believes Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her. Kavanaugh believes he didn't. Only one has any corroborating evidence for their claims, and it isn't Ford.

    You're the base. You've already made up your mind.

    http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/NPR_PBS-NewsHour_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_1809251359.pdf#page=3

    48 percent of white evangelical Protestants would support Kavanaugh even if the allegations were true.
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    I don't care about polls, I am talking about evidence. Ford has no evidence to back her claim.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Oh shit, Leahy with the blow up of the yearbook. This is spectacular.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    AZDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Her polygraph test was a joke. Complete utter foolishness. Two questions and they were not specific. Polygraph tests require specific single subject questions.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    you clearly know nothing about polygraphs

    The SOP is to ask the examinee a bunch of questions that are obvious "yes" or "no" questions that are irrelevant to the topic.

    Then the polygrapher asks a VERY LIMITED number of questions, usually no more than 2-4... and the polygraph will hit or not hit on "deceptive response."

    Too many questions and the machine will start hitting or not hitting on every question.
    He only asked two. They were about the written story line prepared while the examiner was not in the room. It was heavily changed, scribbled and had parts inserted and redacted.

    "The interviewer asked Ford whether “any part” of her statement was false or whether she made up any detail included in her initial report."

    Funny experts think this isn't a valid poly. But please enlighten me.
    who?
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/experts-doubt-claim-of-truthful-polygraph-result-from-kavanaugh-accuser

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/09/report-ford-polygraph-expert-says-victims-like-ford-you-believe-them-dont-ask-specific-questions/
    That first story is entirely accurate and does not support your assertion. The second story you link is much more slanted but still does not support your assertion.

    As I've said, all a poly does is tell you whether a subject is being "deceptive" or "evasive," which is pretty much what the first story says. Also, polygraphs aren't admissible in court, for the very good reason that they have to be interpreted and that interpretation is subjective.

    Smart defense attorneys have ex-FBI, CID, or NCIS polygraphers on speed dial, because the investigative poly will almost invariably come along with the polygrapher, who also tends to be the best interrogator in the office (funny how that works).

    Of course, while the poly isn't admissible, anything the accused says *is.* Which is the real reason for the season in terms of polygraphs.

    How common is it for the person being given the polygraph to be asked only two questions?
    Substantial questions? Very common. The polygrapher asks a lot of easy questions, both right and wrong, to calibrate the machine. Like, where were you born? And then they only ask a couple of substantial questions because the signal-to-noise in the poly goes way down after about 3-4 Qs. That's what I was told by my CID expert witnesses when this came up anyway.

    Simple minds think a polygraph is like how they do it on TV. That ends up with a conclusive yes or no.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Looks like the AZ prosecutrix (the AZ does stand for Arizona) came up with 4 new names of witnesses that should be called.
  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373
    Dude61 said:

    Ford believes Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her. Kavanaugh believes he didn't. Only one has any corroborating evidence for their claims, and it isn't Ford.

    Doesn't matter. Women will believe her.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftQNuv_MsjY


    The republicans should have callously dumped him and moved to plan B while working to clear him behind the scenes.
    I don't think he's helping himself here because I'm someone who completely believes him and feels very bad for him yet I'm finding his display off-putting and pitiful.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    AZDuck said:

    Looks like the AZ prosecutrix (the AZ does stand for Arizona) came up with 4 new names of witnesses that should be called.

    YKW
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    Looks like the AZ prosecutrix (the AZ does stand for Arizona) came up with 4 new names of witnesses that should be called.

    YKW


  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254

    Dude61 said:

    Ford believes Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her. Kavanaugh believes he didn't. Only one has any corroborating evidence for their claims, and it isn't Ford.

    Doesn't matter. Women will believe her.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftQNuv_MsjY


    The republicans should have callously dumped him and moved to plan B while working to clear him behind the scenes.
    I don't think he's helping himself here because I'm someone who completely believes him and feels very bad for him yet I'm finding his display off-putting and pitiful.
    Yes, evidence matters. All Ford's named witnesses denied the party happened, or even know Kavanaugh. Signed statements under penalty of felony. What does Ford have?
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Lindsey Graham, he mad
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015
    AZDuck said:

    Lindsey Graham, he mad

    Fucking A. Lindsay going to town.

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    AZDuck said:

    Lindsey Graham, he mad

    Fucking A. Lindsay going to town.

    I think it's time Lindsay got outed
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,725 Founders Club
    The left is getting shredded
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    The left is getting shredded

    Where did you get this talking point?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Doogles said:

    The left is getting shredded

    Where did you get this talking point?
    See?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    AZDuck said:

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    Looks like the AZ prosecutrix (the AZ does stand for Arizona) came up with 4 new names of witnesses that should be called.

    YKW


    I deserve a flag for asking. But I have so many jokes about her being a expert on sexual abuse.. I'll restrain.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,725 Founders Club
    This is so bizarre. Running down his yearbook lmao
  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373
    whys he dodging these fbi questions
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,725 Founders Club

    Dems are pressing worse than a Mooster football take. Embarrassing.

    You can see them deciding if they should rev the engines down or keep pressing. This is not going well.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    whys he dodging these fbi questions

    Because nobody wishes an FBI investigation upon themselves and their friends and associates, which never produces positive outcomes.

    I think he's saying "vote me up or vote me down," but don't delay & drag this out until after the elections.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    AZDuck said:

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    Looks like the AZ prosecutrix (the AZ does stand for Arizona) came up with 4 new names of witnesses that should be called.

    YKW


    Wood?