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Clock Mis-Managment

oregonblitzkrieg
oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
edited February 16 in College Football Forum
The coaching staff went down in my estimation and is now questionable until proven otherwise.


A mental dwarf could have managed the clock better than the coaches did on the final drive of regulation. Run the clock out, punt the ball and defend the field with about 10 seconds left. Win the game.


But that's too fucking simple and not any fun. Forget that, lets give the ball to a freshman RB and have him try to punch his way through a bunch of grasping, groping Stanford fags who are going to do everything they can to try to pry loose the ball, and did.

Strike One Cristobal.
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  • The coaching staff went down in my estimation and is now questionable until proven otherwise.


    A mental dwarf could have managed the clock better than the coaches did on the final drive of regulation. Run the clock out, punt the ball and defend the field with about 10 seconds left. Win the game.


    But that's too fucking simple and not any fun. Forget that, lets give the ball to a freshman RB and have him try to punch his way through a bunch of grasping, groping Stanford fags who are going to do everything they can to try to pry loose the ball, and did.

    Strike One Cristobal.

    Tick tick tick...
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Domicillo said:
    Nice link, but you still have a coach who persists in using a QB that eliminates any chance of you capitalizing on your window of opportunity to do something.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Domicillo said:
    Nice link, but you still have a coach who persists in using a QB that eliminates any chance of you capitalizing on your window of opportunity to do something.
    People forget that Peterman bungled the clock in the same way a few years ago at Arizona.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Jake Browning lives for running backwards in the pocket. All of his hard work at that finally paid off.


  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Domicillo said:
    Nice link, but you still have a coach who persists in using a QB that eliminates any chance of you capitalizing on your window of opportunity to do something.
    People forget that Peterman bungled the clock in the same way a few years ago at Arizona.
    But he learned from it maybe. I have low odds on Cristoball being functionally capable of learning.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    He didn't fuck up. Saban, Dabo, Meyer, Carroll, Belichik, Parcells, Lombardi, and Jesus go for the 1st there. It was 2nd & 2. A freshman fucked up. That's what freshman do. TBJ was dinged up apparently and the only people left on the roster to run the ball were freshman.

    No one besides Jim Harbaugh calculatedly punts the ball up by 3 late. You're being a fucktard.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    It's not clear to me that Mario bungled anything on the drive. When the day comes that you can't hand the ball off to your running backs. Without calling that play high risk, you're fucked anyway. And unfortunately for Oregon, the only running backs to hand the ball off to are freshman. Where the kid fucked up wasn't fighting for extra yards, because that's where the probability of getting stripped goes up exponentially. But this idea that handing the ball off and keeping it on the ground to potential he get a first down, or at least keep the clock rolling, is fs. Most coaches make that call. The fuck up is on the kid.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    edited September 2018
    Mosster47 said:

    He didn't fuck up. Saban, Dabo, Meyer, Carroll, Belichik, Parcells, Lombardi, and Jesus go for the 1st there. It was 2nd & 2. A freshman fucked up. That's what freshman do. TBJ was dinged up apparently and the only people left on the roster to run the ball were freshman.

    No one besides Jim Harbaugh calculatedly punts the ball up by 3 late. You're being a fucktard.

    I realize that down voting or what the fucking a Moster post is HCH101, but this post is spot on. Completely fucked hearted argument to suggest that handing the ball to your running back in short yardage when you're trying to kill the clock, and hopefully get a first down, is somehow a huge mistake. The kid fucked up by struggling for extra yards. That's where it happened. It's not that difficult.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    Swaye said:

    Domicillo said:
    Nice link, but you still have a coach who persists in using a QB that eliminates any chance of you capitalizing on your window of opportunity to do something.
    People forget that Peterman bungled the clock in the same way a few years ago at Arizona.
    But he learned from it maybe. I have low odds on Cristoball being functionally capable of learning.
    On the other hand, when Peterman made that mistake, he had already been a head coach since b4 whitey was hunting Geronimo in the mountains of New Mexico. Mario's head-coaching experience consists of trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit at FIU. Of all the many things I've ever read about crystal balls, stupid is not one of them. And, if you turn your head for five seconds, he'll fuck your wife. The guy still has those swarthy Cuban good looks. And you know it @Swaye !!!
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    Seven stages of grief when you realize Mario Cristobal is your head coach

    So handing the ball off to a running back in short yardage to kill the clock is clock miss management? You with OBK on this?

    How the mighty have fallen.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Seven stages of grief when you realize Mario Cristobal is your head coach

    I haven't seen anything to be upset about with him as the head coach. I haven't disagreed with anything he has done four games in. Yesterday was 100% player error. Snapping the ball and not fumbling are player issues.

    The recruiting it there, the S&C is there, the penalties are under control, and game management has been good.

    It's not like he is in year five praying to Allah to hold off ASU at home. JFC, that's a fate worse than death.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    You should run the ball, but also grab the RB by the nutsack and say two hands on the ball, if it's not there go down and live to play on 3rd and short.

    Taking a knee is playing not to lose. Ask Harbaugh how that went last year.
    2 yards in two plays and you win. You want to build toughness and a culture of winning, you don't take a knee.

    You do need to micro manage the key players thought processes though.
  • Hippopeteamus
    Hippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,958
    edited September 2018

    Jake Browning lives for running backwards in the pocket. All of his hard work at that finally paid off.


    Honest question: Shouldn't all of our? players be tackling and holding the opposing players? Holding doesn't reset the clock so why not just hold the entire play?
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    edited September 2018

    Jake Browning lives for running backwards in the pocket. All of his hard work at that finally paid off.


    Honest question: Shouldn't all of our? players be tackling and holding the opposing players? Holding doesn't reset the clock so why not just hold the entire play?
    Doesn't sound classy.

    But yes, that's the best strategy to do in that situation.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=baCeMpAZIgI
  • Hippopeteamus
    Hippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,958

    Jake Browning lives for running backwards in the pocket. All of his hard work at that finally paid off.


    Honest question: Shouldn't all of our? players be tackling and holding the opposing players? Holding doesn't reset the clock so why not just hold the entire play?
    Doesn't sound classy.

    But yes, that's the best strategy to do in that situation.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=baCeMpAZIgI
    That is exactly what I was thinking of. It isn't Nebraska classy, but I was thinking Browning was going to get hit and fumble.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Without obks support Cristobal is basically a lame duck

    Lolpun
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    Oregon could have literally handed the ball off to Standford with 15~ seconds to go in the exact same spot with zero timeouts. Instead they gave it to them in the exact same spot with 1 minute to go and a time out.

    It’s not as if Oregon had played a clean game up to that point handling the ball.

    You can name the one time kneeling the game out didn’t work, I’ll show you the 5 million times it did.

    Herberts first down ended the game.

  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    Doogles said:

    You want to build toughness and a culture of winning

    They lost
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Disagree w OBK on this. Cristobal is trying to establish a different identity for this team. More smash mouth, less finesse. So he’s coaching the kids to go 100% between the whistles. Sometimes shit like last night is going to happen. And our midget secondary is a weakness ready to be exploited.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    edited September 2018

    Oregon could have literally handed the ball off to Standford with 15~ seconds to go in the exact same spot with zero timeouts. Instead they gave it to them in the exact same spot with 1 minute to go and a time out.

    It’s not as if Oregon had played a clean game up to that point handling the ball.

    You can name the one time kneeling the game out didn’t work, I’ll show you the 5 million times it did.

    Herberts first down ended the game.

    I'll just say it again, because the first five fucking times didn't make it into your head: If you can't hand the ball off to your running back, it doesn't really fucking matter. Oregon is not going to the college football playoff this year; anybody who thought they had even a remote chance is fucking stupid. If you're Mario, you're trying to build something there. Like the guy said prior to the game, everything he learned from Saban, and though apparently he doesn't remember, everything he learned from Jimmy Johnson, is that you play to win. Playing to win means being aggressive… Not stupid aggressive, but aggressive. Aggressive enough so that you are not playing to lose. Handing the ball off to a running back in short yardage situations, where a first down ices the game, is simply not Stupid aggressive. Yeah the kids a freshman, but that kid averaged close to 6 yards per carry on the evening.

    I get it. Second-guessing is fun. A few people do it better than the creep. But this particular second guessing is FS. Yeah, I have a man crush on Mario; he's a cane and he is handsome as fuck. But he also didn't fuck that up. There's a lot of season left to see whether he's a good or a bad coach. Last night is not an indication that he's a bad coach. You faggots have not been able to run the ball between the tackles without trickeration or misdirection or Mariotta for a very long fucking time. Last night you did it against Stanford. Last night, he had the team ready to play a solid opponent in the wake of a miserable and disastrous three-year stretch for the program.

    And, as others have said, Oregon is not getting her urban Meyer or Nick Saban to show up anytime soon.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    AZDuck said:

    Disagree w OBK on this. Cristobal is trying to establish a different identity for this team. More smash mouth, less finesse. So he’s coaching the kids to go 100% between the whistles. Sometimes shit like last night is going to happen. And our midget secondary is a weakness ready to be exploited.

    Kneeling on the ball would not have erased anything they would have already achieved during that game. Remember the stop on 4th and 1? They’d be 1-0 with Stanford out of the way.

    Leave it to the Pat Hills of the world to show how TUFF they are.

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.

    Axe Chip Kelly.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Jake Browning lives for running backwards in the pocket. All of his hard work at that finally paid off.


    Honest question: Shouldn't all of our? players be tackling and holding the opposing players? Holding doesn't reset the clock so why not just hold the entire play?
    Because holding gets declined and the clock stops.

    That would actually be a terrible idea.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    AZDuck said:

    5 years of play-not-to-lose gets you a team with no emotion or heart that barely beats ASU at home. I’m okay with a coach edtablishing an identity. Having a philosophy and an identity is Thing 1.

    Axe Chip Kelly.

    Winning is better than losing.

    Hope this helps.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Oregon could have literally handed the ball off to Standford with 15~ seconds to go in the exact same spot with zero timeouts. Instead they gave it to them in the exact same spot with 1 minute to go and a time out.

    It’s not as if Oregon had played a clean game up to that point handling the ball.

    You can name the one time kneeling the game out didn’t work, I’ll show you the 5 million times it did.

    Herberts first down ended the game.

    There aren't five million examples. No one calculates a late punt.