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Who is more at fault?

Passion
Passion Member Posts: 4,622
edited December 2013 in Hardcore Husky Board

Who is more at fault? 18 votes

Sark
50%
DerekJohnsonTierbsHsotBoobsHouhuskyPurpleBazeRoadDawg55NeGgaPlEaSeCSEDawgDude61iamthebagman 9 votes
Tosh
33%
Mad_SonPassionCuntWaffle[Deleted User]dncdroggins 6 votes
Basham
11%
PurpleJORRegisteredOffender 2 votes
Mike Davis (Basham's throwing coach, who allegedly received the money from Tosh)
5%
AtomicDawg 1 vote

Comments

  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Tosh
    I don't like to completely excuse kids in situations like this, and Basham is old enough to know better. But I also know that Basham comes from a shitty home. Any positive guidance he has received has come from coaches, teachers, counselors, etc.

    And then a coach that has had a BIG influence on him (Davis), consents to taking money. Kid has been surrounded by some awful role models.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    The field:

    I blame you Passion
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2013
    The field:

    Mark Emmert and the NCAA.
  • Basham
    I like to blame the kids when I can't take the field.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Tosh

    The field:

    Mark Emmert and the NCAA.

    All 4 deserve some blame, but the question is who is most at fault. I gotta go with our "ace recruiter."
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Tosh
    1) Tosh - he did it
    2) Davis - he was the other adult in the situation and should have said no
    3) Sark - he should be able to ensure violations don't occur... if you don't want them to...
    4) Basham - the kid is dumb but he should understand the repercussions. Regardless he at least got educational benefit from it
  • HuskyHalfBrain
    HuskyHalfBrain Member Posts: 1,311
    edited December 2013
    Invalid pole w/o the field.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited December 2013
    Passion said:

    I don't like to completely excuse kids in situations like this, and Basham is old enough to know better. But I also know that Basham comes from a shitty home. Any positive guidance he has received has come from coaches, teachers, counselors, etc.

    And then a coach that has had a BIG influence on him (Davis), consents to taking money. Kid has been surrounded by some awful role models.

    You don't like to excuse kids in this situation....
    But it's hard to expect people in shitty homes to do the right thing.... they get a lower standard... awesome/
  • Tosh

    Passion said:

    I don't like to completely excuse kids in situations like this, and Basham is old enough to know better. But I also know that Basham comes from a shitty home. Any positive guidance he has received has come from coaches, teachers, counselors, etc.

    And then a coach that has had a BIG influence on him (Davis), consents to taking money. Kid has been surrounded by some awful role models.

    You don't like to excuse kids in this situation....
    But it's hard to expect people in shitty homes to do the right thing.... they get a lower standard... awesome/
    I'm hearing making people show ID at the polls is racist.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    Mike Davis (Basham's throwing coach, who allegedly received the money from Tosh)
    I don't know what the motive for Davis is. He is smearing basham inadvertently and making this a bigger deal than it needs to be.

    Is he really going to feel better if tosh or uw get in trouble. This has revenge written all over it but not sure why.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,214
    edited December 2013
    Institutional racism
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Basham
    Where is the option for Kaplan Test Prep?
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    I think there are some people out there who just don't like cheaters. They'll put with a little, but there is a breaking point -- somebody reached it. If this is like most institutional cheating, they will try to pin blame on a fall guy but it is most likely a widespread and endemic problem.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,470 Founders Club
    Sark
    Mmmmmmmmkay, I'm not seeing a George Bush option here.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,470 Founders Club
    Sark
    Sark made the hire and set the tone. And the tone he set for UW athletics was dancing on the sidelines and in his words, "playing fast and loose."