3,000 people didn't die
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They didn't die "in" the Hurricane. In some cases they died months later. If someone falls off the roof of their house 3 months after the hurricane hit did that person die "in" the hurricane?
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Hondo - where is Trump wrong in these tweets?
At 16 deaths, the official casualty toll is both subject to revision and astonishingly low. It testifies to efforts of island officials who placed their faith in minute-by-minute forecasts, rather than the prayers that some local preachers had urged to keep up the island’s previous extraordinary record of near-misses. Maria stayed the course. Officially 2 m.p.h. shy of Category 5 at landfall on the south-eastern shore, she raked the entire island. There was no intact corner from which to stage a recovery effort.
time.com/a-land-they-no-longer-recognize/
Time Magazine is not Fox News and this is basically a hit piece but it shows that the original death toll was 16 to 20 people
This article says Trump did give 1 million of his own money and got the Feds involved
At least hondo is not trying to politicize the dead. -
They are fucking ghouls. It's the some kind of dishonest accounting that allows them claim something like this is a "school shooting."RaceBannon said:Hondo - where is Trump wrong in these tweets?
At 16 deaths, the official casualty toll is both subject to revision and astonishingly low. It testifies to efforts of island officials who placed their faith in minute-by-minute forecasts, rather than the prayers that some local preachers had urged to keep up the island’s previous extraordinary record of near-misses. Maria stayed the course. Officially 2 m.p.h. shy of Category 5 at landfall on the south-eastern shore, she raked the entire island. There was no intact corner from which to stage a recovery effort.
time.com/a-land-they-no-longer-recognize/
Time Magazine is not Fox News and this is basically a hit piece but it shows that the original death toll was 16 to 20 people
This article says Trump did give 1 million of his own money and got the Feds involved
At least hondo is not trying to politicize the dead.
A longtime College of Southern Nevada sociology professor is facing felony gun charges in connection with an on-campus shooting on the second day of classes.
Mark J. Bird was charged last month with discharging a gun within a prohibited structure, carrying a concealed weapon without a permit and possessing a dangerous weapon on school property, court records show. He was found bleeding from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his arm about 8:15 a.m. on Aug. 28 outside a bathroom in the Charleston campus K building.
Inside the bathroom, campus police found a $100 bill taped to a mirror along with a note that said, "For the janitor," according to Bird’s arrest report. On the floor of the restroom was a black-and-white, .22-caliber pistol and one spent shell casing.
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While waiting for authorities to arrive, Bird said he had shot himself in protest of President Donald Trump, police noted in their report. The report did not elaborate.
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Are you really that dense? Yes, they didn't literally die in the hurricane but they died as a result of the aftermath due to the lack of water, electricity, and the slow relief efforts. The study compared the average number of deaths in PR in a normal year as a proxy and used that to estimate the impact from the hurricane.SFGbob said:They didn't die "in" the Hurricane. In some cases they died months later. If someone falls off the roof of their house 3 months after the hurricane hit did that person die "in" the hurricane?
If someone got shot in a mass shooting but died a week later in the hospital, would they not count against the body count of that shooting?
No one blamed Trump directly for the 3000 deaths but the man just can't accept any slight or shred of criticism. It's ironic you Trump supporters like to label the left as snowflakes but your idol is the biggest snowflake of them all. -
If a stop light is out 3 months after the hurricane hits and there is a car wreck that kills someone at that intersection did that person die in the hurricane?insinceredawg said:
Are you really that dense? Yes, they didn't literally die in the hurricane but they died as a result of the aftermath due to the lack of water, electricity, and the slow relief efforts. The study compared the average number of deaths in PR in a normal year as a proxy and used that to estimate the impact from the hurricane.SFGbob said:They didn't die "in" the Hurricane. In some cases they died months later. If someone falls off the roof of their house 3 months after the hurricane hit did that person die "in" the hurricane?
If someone got shot in a mass shooting but died a week later in the hospital, would they not count against the body count of that shooting?
No one blamed Trump directly for the 3000 deaths but the man just can't accept any slight or shred of criticism. It's ironic you Trump supporters like to label the left as snowflakes but your idol is the biggest snowflake of them all.
Are you're lying about people not blaming Trump. Your comparison to people who are shot in a mass shooting and then die a week later is also dishonest. They've counted people who have died in accidents weeks and months after the hurricane not just people who were injured in the hurricane and then died weeks later.
Trump is responsible for Puerto Rico
https://washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/05/30/trump-is-responsible-for-puerto-rico/?utm_term=.825bc60c867b -
Race and such fag Bob.
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Btw, this number is 3,000 number is based almost entirely on estimates and not on actual death certificates. If someone got drunk and crashed their car and died after the hurricane that death could be counted as a hurricane related death.
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I didn't think it was possible to have a more blind, delusional Trump supporter than Race but Bob has taken it to the next level. Congrats.SFGbob said:Btw, this number is 3,000 number is based almost entirely on estimates and not on actual death certificates. If someone got drunk and crashed their car and died after the hurricane that death could be counted as a hurricane related death.
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Here's the thing. So 3,000 people died. At this point, why does it matter?
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If anyone died later from lack of water and supplies in the aftermath, it was due to the corruption and incompetence of the PR government.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/puerto-rico-water-bottles-possibly-millions-for-hurricane-maria-victims-sitting-on-tarmac/
How much of the proceeds from their recent bond issuance went to hardening their infrastructure?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-14/puerto-rico-bonds-rally-as-investor-plan-seeks-large-recoveries
The governor of PR likes to use Trump as a scapegoat for her own incompentence.
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Straight to the personal attacks when you can't either refute what I said or back up your own mouth. And this Kunt calls me blind and delusional. And notice how the Kunt doesn't address his lie that no one is blaming Trump personally.insinceredawg said:
I didn't think it was possible to have a more blind, delusional Trump supporter than Race but Bob has taken it to the next level. Congrats.SFGbob said:Btw, this number is 3,000 number is based almost entirely on estimates and not on actual death certificates. If someone got drunk and crashed their car and died after the hurricane that death could be counted as a hurricane related death.
Someone who is shot in a mass shooting and dies a week later is obviously a victim of that shooting. Someone who falls off their roof or dies in a car crash month after the hurricane isn't a victim of the hurricane.
Far from being blind or delusional it's a basic test of integrity and you of course have failed. -
How many of the 3000 who died were from a car crash or falling off a roof? You're just making shit up now.SFGbob said:
Straight to the personal attacks when you can't either refute what I said or back up your own mouth. And this Kunt calls me blind and delusional. And notice how the Kunt doesn't address his lie that no one is blaming Trump personally.insinceredawg said:
I didn't think it was possible to have a more blind, delusional Trump supporter than Race but Bob has taken it to the next level. Congrats.SFGbob said:Btw, this number is 3,000 number is based almost entirely on estimates and not on actual death certificates. If someone got drunk and crashed their car and died after the hurricane that death could be counted as a hurricane related death.
Some one who is shot in a mass shooting and dies and week later is obviously a victim of that shooting. Some who falls off their roof or dies in a car crash month after the hurricane isn't a victim of the hurricane.
Far from being blind or delusional it's a basic test of integrity and you of course have failed.
I'm not going to put in the time and effort to respond to you because you can't even acknowledge that people died as a result of the hurricane. When you are that detached from reality it's just a waste of time to attempt to engage. -
On average nearly 7,000 people will die a day in the United States. I blame Trump.2001400ex said:Here's the thing. So 3,000 people died. At this point, why does it matter?
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Off course PR has been run by Rat party members, just like many of our urban shit holes, for 50 plus years.Dude61 said:If anyone died later from lack of water and supplies in the aftermath, it was due to the corruption and incompetence of the PR government.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/puerto-rico-water-bottles-possibly-millions-for-hurricane-maria-victims-sitting-on-tarmac/
How much of the proceeds from their recent bond issuance went to hardening their infrastructure?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-14/puerto-rico-bonds-rally-as-investor-plan-seeks-large-recoveries
The governor of PR likes to use Trump as a scapegoat for her own incompentence. -
Kreist. Trump is a fucking Boob for tweeting this delusional paranoid shit. Water is wet.
But as always, Mr Critical of Trump, Bob and his ball washing mentor Race to the rescue.
Sad that they lack the critical thinking skills to analyze a situation without bias and trigger like Pavlov’s Dwag. -
You mean the "critical thinking skills" that allows someone to say a person who died in a drunk driving accident was really a victim of the hurricane?salemcoog said:Kreist. Trump is a fucking Boob for tweeting this delusional paranoid shit. Water is wet.
But as always, Mr Critical of Trump, Bob and his ball washing mentor Race to the rescue.
Sad that they lack the critical thinking skills to analyze a situation without bias and trigger like Pavlov’s Dwag.
Always amazing when someone attacks someone else's "critical thinking skills" and then fails to refute or even cite to the other person's actual argument.
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Ironic.SFGbob said:
You mean the "critical thinking skills" that allows someone to say a person who died in a drunk driving accident was really a victim of the hurricane?salemcoog said:Kreist. Trump is a fucking Boob for tweeting this delusional paranoid shit. Water is wet.
But as always, Mr Critical of Trump, Bob and his ball washing mentor Race to the rescue.
Sad that they lack the critical thinking skills to analyze a situation without bias and trigger like Pavlov’s Dwag.
Always amazing when someone attacks someone else's "critical thinking skills" and then fails to refute or even cite to the other person's actual argument. -
Every thread in the Tug recently*
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Not really. I've directly attacked your Kunt logic and the lying bullshit you've posted Hondo. Your lie about there only being 60K legal immigrants allowed into the country each year. Yes, you were talking out your ass but I also posted information that showed exactly how you were talking out your ass.2001400ex said:
Ironic.SFGbob said:
You mean the "critical thinking skills" that allows someone to say a person who died in a drunk driving accident was really a victim of the hurricane?salemcoog said:Kreist. Trump is a fucking Boob for tweeting this delusional paranoid shit. Water is wet.
But as always, Mr Critical of Trump, Bob and his ball washing mentor Race to the rescue.
Sad that they lack the critical thinking skills to analyze a situation without bias and trigger like Pavlov’s Dwag.
Always amazing when someone attacks someone else's "critical thinking skills" and then fails to refute or even cite to the other person's actual argument.
Other than fucking strawman ass and attacking shit I never said, you never engage my arguments Hondo unless it is to post flat out lies.
Hell two of the "facts" you posted in that immigration thread were complete fucking lies. -
Was it wrong of me to reply that he sounds like a great son? -
Yes linking an article that rips Trump but proves his point is ball washingsalemcoog said:Kreist. Trump is a fucking Boob for tweeting this delusional paranoid shit. Water is wet.
But as always, Mr Critical of Trump, Bob and his ball washing mentor Race to the rescue.
Sad that they lack the critical thinking skills to analyze a situation without bias and trigger like Pavlov’s Dwag.
Trump should be like Bush and just take the blame for being a racist and steering Katrina to New Orleans
You stupid fucks can't even wait for landfall to blame Trump for this one. Look at lyin hondo yesterday and his FEMA post
But the coog is all in on that shit. Loser
I get the TDS of the day from Harv on twitter before I come here to see hondo shit post it -
Is that 1979 NL MVP Keith Hernandez?RaceBannon said:
Was it wrong of me to reply that he sounds like a great son? -
Case closed!
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While I know you are being sarcastic. If Trump just came out and said it was a sad time in PR. His Ts and Ps to the families. Say some bullshit like he will do what he can to help. All this would go away.RaceBannon said:
Yes linking an article that rips Trump but proves his point is ball washingsalemcoog said:Kreist. Trump is a fucking Boob for tweeting this delusional paranoid shit. Water is wet.
But as always, Mr Critical of Trump, Bob and his ball washing mentor Race to the rescue.
Sad that they lack the critical thinking skills to analyze a situation without bias and trigger like Pavlov’s Dwag.
Trump should be like Bush and just take the blame for being a racist and steering Katrina to New Orleans
You stupid fucks can't even wait for landfall to blame Trump for this one. Look at lyin hondo yesterday and his FEMA post
But the coog is all in on that shit. Loser
I get the TDS of the day from Harv on twitter before I come here to see hondo shit post it
But he has to be a snowflake. -
Yes, the second spitterHardlyClothed said:
Is that 1979 NL MVP Keith Hernandez?RaceBannon said:
Was it wrong of me to reply that he sounds like a great son? -
What point did you prove?RaceBannon said:
Yes linking an article that rips Trump but proves his point is ball washingsalemcoog said:Kreist. Trump is a fucking Boob for tweeting this delusional paranoid shit. Water is wet.
But as always, Mr Critical of Trump, Bob and his ball washing mentor Race to the rescue.
Sad that they lack the critical thinking skills to analyze a situation without bias and trigger like Pavlov’s Dwag.
Trump should be like Bush and just take the blame for being a racist and steering Katrina to New Orleans
You stupid fucks can't even wait for landfall to blame Trump for this one. Look at lyin hondo yesterday and his FEMA post
But the coog is all in on that shit. Loser
I get the TDS of the day from Harv on twitter before I come here to see hondo shit post it
If you can’t see the lack of class, intelligence, balls or compassion in Trumps childish tweet, you are further gone than I thought. -
Why would he say meaningless bullshit like that when he is being accused of killing 3,000 people?2001400ex said:
While I know you are being sarcastic. If Trump just came out and said it was a sad time in PR. His Ts and Ps to the families. Say some bullshit like he will do what he can to help. All this would go away.RaceBannon said:
Yes linking an article that rips Trump but proves his point is ball washingsalemcoog said:Kreist. Trump is a fucking Boob for tweeting this delusional paranoid shit. Water is wet.
But as always, Mr Critical of Trump, Bob and his ball washing mentor Race to the rescue.
Sad that they lack the critical thinking skills to analyze a situation without bias and trigger like Pavlov’s Dwag.
Trump should be like Bush and just take the blame for being a racist and steering Katrina to New Orleans
You stupid fucks can't even wait for landfall to blame Trump for this one. Look at lyin hondo yesterday and his FEMA post
But the coog is all in on that shit. Loser
I get the TDS of the day from Harv on twitter before I come here to see hondo shit post it
But he has to be a snowflake.
Why did you post that fucktarded post on Fema funds?
You don't have a pussy like W in the white house anymore. Deal with it -
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Who is accusing Trump of killing 3,000 people? I kinda feel like mother nature killed 3,000 people.RaceBannon said:
Why would he say meaningless bullshit like that when he is being accused of killing 3,000 people?2001400ex said:
While I know you are being sarcastic. If Trump just came out and said it was a sad time in PR. His Ts and Ps to the families. Say some bullshit like he will do what he can to help. All this would go away.RaceBannon said:
Yes linking an article that rips Trump but proves his point is ball washingsalemcoog said:Kreist. Trump is a fucking Boob for tweeting this delusional paranoid shit. Water is wet.
But as always, Mr Critical of Trump, Bob and his ball washing mentor Race to the rescue.
Sad that they lack the critical thinking skills to analyze a situation without bias and trigger like Pavlov’s Dwag.
Trump should be like Bush and just take the blame for being a racist and steering Katrina to New Orleans
You stupid fucks can't even wait for landfall to blame Trump for this one. Look at lyin hondo yesterday and his FEMA post
But the coog is all in on that shit. Loser
I get the TDS of the day from Harv on twitter before I come here to see hondo shit post it
But he has to be a snowflake.
Why did you post that fucktarded post on Fema funds?
You don't have a pussy like W in the white house anymore. Deal with it
