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If you don't think the hospitals are playing a role in it, you're being naive. However, I agree with the bulk of your post.SFGbob said:
You could put an end to that if you abolished the programs that subsidized it. Make people contribute tax free health savings accounts during their working years and allow that money to be invested during their working years and then when they die allow that money to be treated as an asset they can pass onto their family.dflea said:
This is the absolute truth. Consuming 30-40% of your lifetime health expense in the last 30-60 days of your life is completely fucking outrageous. It's nothing more than hospitals preying on the families of the patient.PurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
But we have to be pussies who want to make it more difficult to off yourself while we cry about health care expense at the same time. That's why we can't have nice things.
What incentive now does someone or some family member have in not spending everything they can for healthcare at the end of a love one's life? None, if it's covered by Medicare and private insurance.
Don't blame the Hospitals. The families are choosing to do this because there is no incentive for them not to.
The problem is also the public and the "death panel" hysteria. What the fuck - how about if you sack up and admit you're going to die and come to grips with the fact that if you're not independently wealthy, decisions have to be made about how much to spend on your ass when you're at the end of your run. The first people that should be offed are the ones coming up with names like "death panels".
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The only reason you have a "death panel" is if you publicly financed healthcare. You have to be able to ration care at someone level. Why would a person on Medicare sack up and admit they were going to die? Or better yet, why would their family admit that when they aren't going to be the ones who are paying the bills? If I know that I'm not paying for it then I'm going to request that the hospitals do everything in their power to keep grandma alive. If you knew you were going to die anyway or you knew that grandpa was going to die anyway would you really be as free with the spending on end of life care if it was coming out of your own pocket?dflea said:
If you don't think the hospitals are playing a role in it, you're being naive. However, I agree with the bulk of your post.SFGbob said:
You could put an end to that if you abolished the programs that subsidized it. Make people contribute tax free health savings accounts during their working years and allow that money to be invested during their working years and then when they die allow that money to be treated as an asset they can pass onto their family.dflea said:
This is the absolute truth. Consuming 30-40% of your lifetime health expense in the last 30-60 days of your life is completely fucking outrageous. It's nothing more than hospitals preying on the families of the patient.PurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
But we have to be pussies who want to make it more difficult to off yourself while we cry about health care expense at the same time. That's why we can't have nice things.
What incentive now does someone or some family member have in not spending everything they can for healthcare at the end of a love one's life? None, if it's covered by Medicare and private insurance.
Don't blame the Hospitals. The families are choosing to do this because there is no incentive for them not to.
The problem is also the public and the "death panel" hysteria. What the fuck - how about if you sack up and admit you're going to die and come to grips with the fact that if you're not independently wealthy, decisions have to be made about how much to spend on your ass when you're at the end of your run. The first people that should be offed are the ones coming up with names like "death panels".
Hell no.
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Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.RaceBannon said:
Its not over for death panelsThomasFremont said:
Eventually whatever we? do is going to require them
Even if it is the private sector floating the old folks out to sea on icebergs -
Because private insurance is known to keep people alive in the same scenario. Ok!SFGbob said:
The only reason you have a "death panel" is if you publicly financed healthcare. You have to be able to ration care at someone level. Why would a person on Medicare sack up and admit they were going to die? Or better yet, why would their family admit that when they aren't going to be the ones who are paying the bills? If I know that I'm not paying for it then I'm going to request that the hospitals do everything in their power to keep grandma alive. If you knew you were going to die anyway or you knew that grandpa was going to die anyway would you really be as free with the spending on end of life care if it was coming out of your own pocket?dflea said:
If you don't think the hospitals are playing a role in it, you're being naive. However, I agree with the bulk of your post.SFGbob said:
You could put an end to that if you abolished the programs that subsidized it. Make people contribute tax free health savings accounts during their working years and allow that money to be invested during their working years and then when they die allow that money to be treated as an asset they can pass onto their family.dflea said:
This is the absolute truth. Consuming 30-40% of your lifetime health expense in the last 30-60 days of your life is completely fucking outrageous. It's nothing more than hospitals preying on the families of the patient.PurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
But we have to be pussies who want to make it more difficult to off yourself while we cry about health care expense at the same time. That's why we can't have nice things.
What incentive now does someone or some family member have in not spending everything they can for healthcare at the end of a love one's life? None, if it's covered by Medicare and private insurance.
Don't blame the Hospitals. The families are choosing to do this because there is no incentive for them not to.
The problem is also the public and the "death panel" hysteria. What the fuck - how about if you sack up and admit you're going to die and come to grips with the fact that if you're not independently wealthy, decisions have to be made about how much to spend on your ass when you're at the end of your run. The first people that should be offed are the ones coming up with names like "death panels".
Hell no. -
Everyone wants to do an Alaskan cruise before they pass, so I don’t see the problem.RaceBannon said:
Its not over for death panelsThomasFremont said:
Eventually whatever we? do is going to require them
Even if it is the private sector floating the old folks out to sea on icebergs
#icebucketlist. -
I don't get the appeal of an Alaskan Cruise. No casino, no pool, shitty food. Save the money and fly into Sitka and you can see the same shit without being trapped with 2,000 geriatrics for a week.salemcoog said:
Everyone wants to do an Alaskan cruise before they pass, so I don’t see the problem.RaceBannon said:
Its not over for death panelsThomasFremont said:
Eventually whatever we? do is going to require them
Even if it is the private sector floating the old folks out to sea on icebergs
#icebucketlist. -
You're the first person who should be offed.dflea said:
If you don't think the hospitals are playing a role in it, you're being naive. However, I agree with the bulk of your post.SFGbob said:
You could put an end to that if you abolished the programs that subsidized it. Make people contribute tax free health savings accounts during their working years and allow that money to be invested during their working years and then when they die allow that money to be treated as an asset they can pass onto their family.dflea said:
This is the absolute truth. Consuming 30-40% of your lifetime health expense in the last 30-60 days of your life is completely fucking outrageous. It's nothing more than hospitals preying on the families of the patient.PurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
But we have to be pussies who want to make it more difficult to off yourself while we cry about health care expense at the same time. That's why we can't have nice things.
What incentive now does someone or some family member have in not spending everything they can for healthcare at the end of a love one's life? None, if it's covered by Medicare and private insurance.
Don't blame the Hospitals. The families are choosing to do this because there is no incentive for them not to.
The problem is also the public and the "death panel" hysteria. What the fuck - how about if you sack up and admit you're going to die and come to grips with the fact that if you're not independently wealthy, decisions have to be made about how much to spend on your ass when you're at the end of your run. The first people that should be offed are the ones coming up with names like "death panels". -
Bring help.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're the first person who should be offed.dflea said:
If you don't think the hospitals are playing a role in it, you're being naive. However, I agree with the bulk of your post.SFGbob said:
You could put an end to that if you abolished the programs that subsidized it. Make people contribute tax free health savings accounts during their working years and allow that money to be invested during their working years and then when they die allow that money to be treated as an asset they can pass onto their family.dflea said:
This is the absolute truth. Consuming 30-40% of your lifetime health expense in the last 30-60 days of your life is completely fucking outrageous. It's nothing more than hospitals preying on the families of the patient.PurpleThrobber said:Quite honestly, the amount of money spent to sustain the last days of one’s life is goddamned ridiculous.
But we have to be pussies who want to make it more difficult to off yourself while we cry about health care expense at the same time. That's why we can't have nice things.
What incentive now does someone or some family member have in not spending everything they can for healthcare at the end of a love one's life? None, if it's covered by Medicare and private insurance.
Don't blame the Hospitals. The families are choosing to do this because there is no incentive for them not to.
The problem is also the public and the "death panel" hysteria. What the fuck - how about if you sack up and admit you're going to die and come to grips with the fact that if you're not independently wealthy, decisions have to be made about how much to spend on your ass when you're at the end of your run. The first people that should be offed are the ones coming up with names like "death panels".
