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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    The Hunt for Red October
    BearsWiin said:

    section8 said:

    Red October is the best of the books IMO but Patriot Games the movie was pretty solid.

    Clear and Present Danger had such good potential as a movie, good source material and just fell flat.

    Did the walk through USNA and surrounding Annapolis neighborhood a few months after seeing Patriot Games (witnessed a Naval wedding with raised sabers, which was pretty cool). Patriot Games did have a young Polly Walker, which is good, but it also had Anne Archer doing her wifey "Just get him, Jack!" bullshit. If I were Tom Clancy, I'd have cried, too
    That scene is so cringey.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,867 Standard Supporter
    BearsWiin said:

    section8 said:

    Red October is the best of the books IMO but Patriot Games the movie was pretty solid.

    Clear and Present Danger had such good potential as a movie, good source material and just fell flat.

    Did the walk through USNA and surrounding Annapolis neighborhood a few months after seeing Patriot Games (witnessed a Naval wedding with raised sabers, which was pretty cool). Patriot Games did have a young Polly Walker, which is good, but it also had Anne Archer doing her wifey "Just get him, Jack!" bullshit. If I were Tom Clancy, I'd have cried, too



    Wood absolutely savage Anne Archer circa '95.

    Wood probably still savage Anne Archer circa '18 but the refractory period would be longer.

  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,076

    Ok, so I've never read a Tom Clancy novel before. I've always been mostly a non-fiction dude. What should I read first? Is Red October the place to start?

    Hunt for Red October is great. Taut thriller. Put yourself in the position of reading it in 1984/5, when the Sovs were still scary, intel was hard to come by, how the fuck did this guy know all this shit? Insurance salesman? Bring him in, find out what he knows. Favorite bit is when the A-10s light up the Kirov.

    Skip Red Storm Rising, it's a write-up of a wargame. Fine if you're into that, but outside the Jack Ryan world.

    I'd read Cardinal of the Kremlin next, even though Patriot Games came out before. Either/or here. Then Clear and Present Danger. You can probably stop there. The rest got increasingly bloated and preachy. I was in DC working three blocks from the WH when I read Debt of Honor, and I recall throwing the book across the room when I finished it, the ending pissed me off so much (the only other book I've thrown across the room upon completion was Clan of the Cave Bear).
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,076

    BearsWiin said:

    section8 said:

    Red October is the best of the books IMO but Patriot Games the movie was pretty solid.

    Clear and Present Danger had such good potential as a movie, good source material and just fell flat.

    Did the walk through USNA and surrounding Annapolis neighborhood a few months after seeing Patriot Games (witnessed a Naval wedding with raised sabers, which was pretty cool). Patriot Games did have a young Polly Walker, which is good, but it also had Anne Archer doing her wifey "Just get him, Jack!" bullshit. If I were Tom Clancy, I'd have cried, too



    Wood absolutely savage Anne Archer circa '95.

    Wood probably still savage Anne Archer circa '18 but the refractory period would be longer.

    Oh, most definitely.


  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter
    The Hunt for Red October
    BearsWiin said:

    Ok, so I've never read a Tom Clancy novel before. I've always been mostly a non-fiction dude. What should I read first? Is Red October the place to start?

    I was in DC working three blocks from the WH when I read Debt of Honor, and I recall throwing the book across the room when I finished it, the ending pissed me off so much
    I remember having a similar reaction at the time (I think that book came out in the mid 90s) - and then 9/11 happened. Clancy got a lot of FREE PUB! in the ensuing weeks.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,867 Standard Supporter
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    section8 said:

    Red October is the best of the books IMO but Patriot Games the movie was pretty solid.

    Clear and Present Danger had such good potential as a movie, good source material and just fell flat.

    Did the walk through USNA and surrounding Annapolis neighborhood a few months after seeing Patriot Games (witnessed a Naval wedding with raised sabers, which was pretty cool). Patriot Games did have a young Polly Walker, which is good, but it also had Anne Archer doing her wifey "Just get him, Jack!" bullshit. If I were Tom Clancy, I'd have cried, too



    Wood absolutely savage Anne Archer circa '95.

    Wood probably still savage Anne Archer circa '18 but the refractory period would be longer.

    Oh, most definitely.


    She has a decent collection of nudes. The Man in the Attic has a nice fuck on the couch scene.

    The sex scene with now-gay Doogie Howser is sorta odd. Amiright @AsiaArgentoDawg?

  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    The Hunt for Red October
    BearsWiin said:

    Ok, so I've never read a Tom Clancy novel before. I've always been mostly a non-fiction dude. What should I read first? Is Red October the place to start?

    Hunt for Red October is great. Taut thriller. Put yourself in the position of reading it in 1984/5, when the Sovs were still scary, intel was hard to come by, how the fuck did this guy know all this shit? Insurance salesman? Bring him in, find out what he knows. Favorite bit is when the A-10s light up the Kirov.

    Skip Red Storm Rising, it's a write-up of a wargame. Fine if you're into that, but outside the Jack Ryan world.

    I'd read Cardinal of the Kremlin next, even though Patriot Games came out before. Either/or here. Then Clear and Present Danger. You can probably stop there. The rest got increasingly bloated and preachy. I was in DC working three blocks from the WH when I read Debt of Honor, and I recall throwing the book across the room when I finished it, the ending pissed me off so much (the only other book I've thrown across the room upon completion was Clan of the Cave Bear).
    What did you think of Without Remorse?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    The Hunt for Red October

    BearsWiin said:

    Ok, so I've never read a Tom Clancy novel before. I've always been mostly a non-fiction dude. What should I read first? Is Red October the place to start?

    Hunt for Red October is great. Taut thriller. Put yourself in the position of reading it in 1984/5, when the Sovs were still scary, intel was hard to come by, how the fuck did this guy know all this shit? Insurance salesman? Bring him in, find out what he knows. Favorite bit is when the A-10s light up the Kirov.

    Skip Red Storm Rising, it's a write-up of a wargame. Fine if you're into that, but outside the Jack Ryan world.

    I'd read Cardinal of the Kremlin next, even though Patriot Games came out before. Either/or here. Then Clear and Present Danger. You can probably stop there. The rest got increasingly bloated and preachy. I was in DC working three blocks from the WH when I read Debt of Honor, and I recall throwing the book across the room when I finished it, the ending pissed me off so much (the only other book I've thrown across the room upon completion was Clan of the Cave Bear).
    What did you think of Without Remorse?
    Not Boors, but I dug it.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    The Hunt for Red October

    BearsWiin said:

    Ok, so I've never read a Tom Clancy novel before. I've always been mostly a non-fiction dude. What should I read first? Is Red October the place to start?

    Hunt for Red October is great. Taut thriller. Put yourself in the position of reading it in 1984/5, when the Sovs were still scary, intel was hard to come by, how the fuck did this guy know all this shit? Insurance salesman? Bring him in, find out what he knows. Favorite bit is when the A-10s light up the Kirov.

    Skip Red Storm Rising, it's a write-up of a wargame. Fine if you're into that, but outside the Jack Ryan world.

    I'd read Cardinal of the Kremlin next, even though Patriot Games came out before. Either/or here. Then Clear and Present Danger. You can probably stop there. The rest got increasingly bloated and preachy. I was in DC working three blocks from the WH when I read Debt of Honor, and I recall throwing the book across the room when I finished it, the ending pissed me off so much (the only other book I've thrown across the room upon completion was Clan of the Cave Bear).
    What did you think of Without Remorse?
    Not Boors, but I dug it.
    Same. Clark is one of the best characters.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    The Hunt for Red October

    BearsWiin said:

    Ok, so I've never read a Tom Clancy novel before. I've always been mostly a non-fiction dude. What should I read first? Is Red October the place to start?

    Hunt for Red October is great. Taut thriller. Put yourself in the position of reading it in 1984/5, when the Sovs were still scary, intel was hard to come by, how the fuck did this guy know all this shit? Insurance salesman? Bring him in, find out what he knows. Favorite bit is when the A-10s light up the Kirov.

    Skip Red Storm Rising, it's a write-up of a wargame. Fine if you're into that, but outside the Jack Ryan world.

    I'd read Cardinal of the Kremlin next, even though Patriot Games came out before. Either/or here. Then Clear and Present Danger. You can probably stop there. The rest got increasingly bloated and preachy. I was in DC working three blocks from the WH when I read Debt of Honor, and I recall throwing the book across the room when I finished it, the ending pissed me off so much (the only other book I've thrown across the room upon completion was Clan of the Cave Bear).
    What did you think of Without Remorse?
    Not Boors, but I dug it.
    Same. Clark is one of the best characters.
    That book still makes me want to get a lathe. And an island.