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WW2 question

BaldwinIV
BaldwinIV Member Posts: 797
Loved Yella's thread but didn't like seeing it hijacked so I'll create separate one. I'm a history buff but more medieval (hence my moniker here) and my WW2 is limited.

The Western powers declare war on Germany because under their pact they agree to declare war on anyone who attacks Poland.

OK got it.

But....The USSR also attacked Poland several weeks later, why then did not Britain and France declare war on the USSR as well? Same offense right?

It's like they knew the USSR was up to no good (and reverted to hating them immediately after V-E day), why let their warcrimes slide until late '45?
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,815 Founders Club

    The concept of triangulation has in large part been forgotten. During the Cold War the USSR, China, and the US played a game of 2 on 1 that was ever changing so that none of them would dominate the other two. Looking at a looming world war the decision had to be made. I don't think anyone thought that Hitler would not turn on Russia despite the treaty they signed. LIPO and have the USSR to push from the edge while the Brits and Yanks provided heat up the middle.

    Stalin was smart enough to ask for Eastern Europe at Yalta while the war was still going on and our State Dept. was all to happy to oblige knowing we would have Western Europe as a shield and most of them were commie symps anyway according to my grandma.

    As Yellow's article points out England couldn't defend shit anyway at the time. Time was the precious commodity that allowed FDR to fake Pearl Harbor to get us? in the war

    Hindsight being 20/20, Nixon should never have gone to China. We'd be better off of they were all still peasants, riding bikes everywhere.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,868 Founders Club

    The concept of triangulation has in large part been forgotten. During the Cold War the USSR, China, and the US played a game of 2 on 1 that was ever changing so that none of them would dominate the other two. Looking at a looming world war the decision had to be made. I don't think anyone thought that Hitler would not turn on Russia despite the treaty they signed. LIPO and have the USSR to push from the edge while the Brits and Yanks provided heat up the middle.

    Stalin was smart enough to ask for Eastern Europe at Yalta while the war was still going on and our State Dept. was all to happy to oblige knowing we would have Western Europe as a shield and most of them were commie symps anyway according to my grandma.

    As Yellow's article points out England couldn't defend shit anyway at the time. Time was the precious commodity that allowed FDR to fake Pearl Harbor to get us? in the war

    Hindsight being 20/20, Nixon should never have gone to China. We'd be better off of they were all still peasants, riding bikes everywhere.
    I'll have to check with @iDawg on that. We had a podcast on it but I don't remember why that was the analogy

    Nixon also met the Russkies as did RR
  • BaldwinIV
    BaldwinIV Member Posts: 797
    good replies

    i thought triangulation theory was strictly a cold war thing, not sure the west had that foresight in 1939

    as for the secret protocol, that's pretty crazy. trying to read up more on that and find other sources. pretty fucked up if true.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,572
    I think the western powers realized they couldn’t battle both Germany and Russia. It’s speculation, but I’m guessing they let Russia slide so they could possibly have them as an ally later on.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,815 Founders Club
    Thread-jacking is a thing? Why I never
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Countries had been shitting on #MyPoles for a long tim. The pre-WW2 borders had only been in place a few decades, correct?