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The Stable Genius weighs in on the California wildfires

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,018 Founders Club
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    And Oregon and Washington run off too

    Rome did a couple centuries ago. Not that hard if you aren't wasting billions on a train from Fresno to Bakersfield
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,850 Founders Club
    I'm confused. Are the fire fighters running out of water in S Cal when dealing with these fires?

    Hell hath no furry like So Cal fire season which will always happen when you have heat, fuel and wind. Don't see what water coming from North to South has to do with it. Both of my childhood homes came with in a c hair of burning to the ground in the 2003 and 2007 Cedar and Witch Fires.

    @RaceBannon is right about Washington/Oregon water going to CA at some point. It's inevitable.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    I'm confused. Are the fire fighters running out of water in S Cal when dealing with these fires?

    No, Trump is just a fucking moron.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-trump-fires-20180806-story.html#

    Their demands have nothing to do with the availability of water for firefighting. Fire agencies haven’t been complaining about a lack of water, especially water “diverted” to the Pacific. Major reservoirs are near the worst fire zones; the Carr fire is near Lake Shasta and Whiskeytown Lake and the Mendocino Complex fire is near Clear Lake. All are at or near their historical levels.

    “There have been no issues getting water from them,” Scott McLean, a spokesman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, or Cal Fire, told me.

    Cal Fire, which is managing the wildfire battle, has deployed some 200 water tenders to the fire zone and is dispatching air tankers as flying conditions permit.

    “The idea that there isn’t enough water is the craziest thing in the world,” says Peter Gleick, president emeritus of the Pacific Institute for Studies in Development, Environment, and Security in Oakland. “There’s absolutely no shortage.”

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    It is policies enacted by Kali and Slick Willy that stopped the removal of dead undergrowth in national forest and other government and state controlled lands. Lots of fuel for the fires to spread rapidly and burn large areas. It used to be removed on a schedule and burned off. But those "unroads" and closed down public lands now just burn like the tinder they are.
    So you are telling me you know better how to manage a forest than mother nature.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,691
    God. 70 percent of the fucking earth is water and we're worrying about not enough water.

    In 100 years people are going to laugh at us.

    We've accomplished a lot of stuff but man, using ocean water in a feasible process is one of the major missing ingredients.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    God. 70 percent of the fucking earth is water and we're worrying about not enough water.

    In 100 years people are going to laugh at us.

    We've accomplished a lot of stuff but man, using ocean water in a feasible process is one of the major missing ingredients.

    Water isn't the issue. That's the point.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    God. 70 percent of the fucking earth is water and we're worrying about not enough water.

    In 100 years people are going to laugh at us.

    We've accomplished a lot of stuff but man, using ocean water in a feasible process is one of the major missing ingredients.

    California already has around 20 desalination plants. Problems is that it takes huge amounts of energy and then you are left with a shit load of salt.