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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    We don't deal in hypotheticals. That being said. For perspective. We spend about $60 billion a year in food stamps and just increased military spending by $80 billion.

    We spend more than that. In 2013 we gave over 81 Bill to parents of anchor babies. I’m guessing that number is well over 100 Billion now. That’s the number that open border retards fail to acknowledge as they cry “but but illegals pay taxes and don’t get them back!!!!”

    They get em back alright, about five fold, once they start pumping out kids.
    I did some Google searching. And I want to reiterate how FS this comment is.
    But nothing to refute it.

    GLTROTW.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    We don't deal in hypotheticals. That being said. For perspective. We spend about $60 billion a year in food stamps and just increased military spending by $80 billion.

    We spend more than that. In 2013 we gave over 81 Bill to parents of anchor babies. I’m guessing that number is well over 100 Billion now. That’s the number that open border retards fail to acknowledge as they cry “but but illegals pay taxes and don’t get them back!!!!”

    They get em back alright, about five fold, once they start pumping out kids.
    I did some Google searching. And I want to reiterate how FS this comment is.
    But nothing to refute it.

    GLTROTW.
    You can't refute made up bullshit.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    This thread is bananas.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.

    Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.
    This is a Hondo level poast.
    Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.
    Who doesn't agree with property rights, except for commies and socialists. Define self ownership.
    You’re not familiar with Locke? Are you being serious about not knowing what self ownership is? This leads me to believe you also are not clear on property rights.
    I've read his shit but its been awhile. Everyone has the right to control their own body and life, sure, up to the point where it infringes on someone else's life or liberty.
    I’d recommend a refresher
    You're the resident tome of economics history and scholarship. But I'm not sure you consider all of the possible outcomes if the philosophies you follow were into practice. For example, what level of social unrest would be caused by an open borders policy, and how would it be contained? If the people in a libertarian country voted in a communist government, what would happen then? It doesn't seem to have the answers to those kinds of questions. It doesn't seem capable of defending its own existence.
    You create some nice strawmen to attack.

    What is the basis for the assumption that there would be social unrest? People only immigrante if there is opportunity. If there is little opportunity there is no immigration.
    It's really naive to think there wouldn't be. America is like Bama. Everyone wants to be them. Every football player wants to play for them. Even after Saban retires and they become a shitty team again, the residual after effects of their success will still lure many to Tuscaloosa despite the fact that they are no longer what they once were. Same with America. People will come even if there is no opportunity left because of the HYPE they've heard their whole lives, that America is the land of opportunity, the greatest nation on Earth. And because its better than the shithole they live in.

    You're also not taking into consideration the unrest that would be caused by massive immigration from cultures that are not compatible with Western values, like those in the Middle East. We don't want more Islam, we want less Islam. We don't want more Mexicans, we want less Mexicans. Pole the cuntry and I think you would find 80% approval for less, not more immigration.
    Is this the post where OBK jumped the shark? Or was that years ago and I missed it?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,235 Founders Club
    We sre simply not going to march 15 to 20 million people back to where ever

    The only logical solution is the compromise to close the border, build the wall, punish employers and then work out the path or road or trail to some sort of citizenship for those here

    So it will never happen

    We'll be having this same argument when you guys are as old as I am
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082

    We sre simply not going to march 15 to 20 million people back to where ever

    The only logical solution is the compromise to close the border, build the wall, punish employers and then work out the path or road or trail to some sort of citizenship for those here

    So it will never happen

    We'll be having this same argument when you guys are as old as I am

    Exactly.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    We sre simply not going to march 15 to 20 million people back to where ever

    The only logical solution is the compromise to close the border, build the wall, punish employers and then work out the path or road or trail to some sort of citizenship for those here

    So it will never happen

    We'll be having this same argument when you guys are as old as I am

    Other than build the wall, I agree with this. Must be a wwoooooossshhhhh.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,235 Founders Club
    You're only against the wall because of TDS and your masters told you to be
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    You're only against the wall because of TDS and your masters told you to be

    While that comment is cute. I'm against the wall because the majority of illegal immigrants enter the country legally and overstay their visa. The wall will not be effective enough to justify the cost. And Mexico won't pay for it.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The wall is an easy compromise for the democrats to get what they say they want to protect illegals.

    The fact that they won't do it is telling.

    They don't give a shit

    So you are saying you want to build a wall to get a win for the Republicans and no other reason. Nice work shill.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,235 Founders Club
    That is exactly not what I said you fucking moron

    My plan wins for the people you pretend to care about, the democrats, and Trump

    That's called good politics
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    That is exactly not what I said you fucking moron

    My plan wins for the people you pretend to care about, the democrats, and Trump

    That's called good politics

    What do you think a wall will accomplish?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,235 Founders Club
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Fuck off

    Was a serious question. What will the wall accomplish?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,235 Founders Club
    What do walls accomplish?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited August 2018

    What do walls accomplish?

    Not much when there's tunnels under them and most people enter through the air.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,908 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    What do walls accomplish?

    Not much when there's tunnels under them and most people enter through the air.
    Walls work. It's been proven since we could stack rock.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,235 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    What do walls accomplish?

    Not much when there's tunnels under them and most people enter through the air.
    Like I said you are just repeating what your masters tell you to

    Build a wall help the illegals and the democrats

    Nope - the dems want an issue not a solution

    As I have said many times you have to be a stupid fucking moron to say that walls don't work

    paging @insinceredawg
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    What do walls accomplish?

    Not much when there's tunnels under them and most people enter through the air.
    Like I said you are just repeating what your masters tell you to

    Build a wall help the illegals and the democrats

    Nope - the dems want an issue not a solution

    As I have said many times you have to be a stupid fucking moron to say that walls don't work

    paging @insinceredawg
    Race hates facts.

    Who gives a fuck what helps politicians? We should do what's best for the country. Which isn't a wall.

    #therealreadyisawall
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,235 Founders Club
    Walls work you blithering idiot

    That's why Mexico is building one on their south border

    Your masters know they work and they don't want that
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Walls work you blithering idiot

    That's why Mexico is building one on their south border

    Your masters know they work and they don't want that

    Do you think the southern border is just completely open?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    And I like how Race accuses people of listening to their masters. Yet throws out the "Mexico is building a wall on their southern border" talking point.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,235 Founders Club
    Which is a fact
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    “Walls work!” -China before the Mongols conquered it.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Walls work you blithering idiot

    That's why Mexico is building one on their south border

    Your masters know they work and they don't want that

    Mexico is paying for a wall? The US is getting ripped off. Where’s Trump!??!?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    I see like a two foot tall wall. Is he trying to keep midgets out?