Is anybody short the market right now?
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They decay and essentially reset in a bull market. In a bear market, they kick ass.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those decay. Do you average down on those etfs too?2001400ex said:
Don't need to. Buy a 3 times leveraged bear etf.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dont short anything unless you really know what youre doing
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Mutual funds rape you in their expense ratio and generally do worse or the same compared to ETFs.USMChawk said:
Go ahead and hand that loaded gun to the child, what’s the worst that could happen?2001400ex said:
Don't need to. Buy a 3 times leveraged bear etf.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dont short anything unless you really know what youre doing
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/06/25/3-triple-leveraged-etfs-and-why-you-shouldnt-buy-a.aspx
Don’t try and time the market; Wall Street is full of professionals who’ve failed at that very thing. I’d recommend you buy diversified mutual funds and be patient. They’re not sexy and won’t give you that rush but your money will be there when you need it. I ‘day traded’ prior to the tech bubble burst and quadrupled my portfolio in 2-3 years. Then I lost 2/3 of it (on paper) in 2 weeks. I was lucky and most of my stocks recovered but it was still a painful lesson. -
You'll lose money on it over time unless your timing is good. If you buy it (shorting the market) at the wrong time, it will just keep decaying. Better off not shorting the market at all, or using options calendars on SPY/IWM/QQQ. Get paid while you wait for a drop. Less risky, put them on when Vix is low, price can rally well past your entry point, and when volatility picks back up later, you can still be profitable even though price is higher than your entry point, due to the rise in volatility.2001400ex said:
They decay and essentially reset in a bull market. In a bear market, they kick ass.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those decay. Do you average down on those etfs too?2001400ex said:
Don't need to. Buy a 3 times leveraged bear etf.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dont short anything unless you really know what youre doing
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Axe hondo. He’s apparently a fucking expert.pawz said:What's the best way to do that?
What is the least risky way to take that position? Buy gold? Options? -
No chance.MikeDamone said:
Axe hondo. He’s apparently a fucking expert.pawz said:What's the best way to do that?
What is the least risky way to take that position? Buy gold? Options? -
Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
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Even Warren Buffett sells on occasion.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
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MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
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Yep, when shit is more bleek than Memphis the ETF's shine. I made one last little play in the gold one for the election. Either way it's chaos and gold spikes. Hit that 24% and have been 100% out of the market since then and put the TSP in G on April 30th because May-Sep is always a shit show for fund backed vehicles.2001400ex said:
They decay and essentially reset in a bull market. In a bear market, they kick ass.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those decay. Do you average down on those etfs too?2001400ex said:
Don't need to. Buy a 3 times leveraged bear etf.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dont short anything unless you really know what youre doing
There are some oil ETF's that play well too. Buy and hold, whenever any kind of natural disaster happens oil jumps. -
That was some deep dark shit there.dnc said:
Gonna need BBQ superiority guy to weigh in here. Tatonka brisket, yay or nay?RaceBannon said:
Fuck. Never mind. Meant to reply to...
Who fucking cares. FYFMFE. -
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
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I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
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Cannabis stocks suck. I work in the industry. I own none and you’re a dumb fuck for buying them.2001400ex said:
I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
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Please to be explaining why I'm a dumbfuck. There are a few like canopy that are way overvalued. I have invested in ones with a small market cap, such as Nameste and Cronos. I was in Cronos before it was listed on NASDAQ. I do know the big ones have been leveraging with stock acquisitions too much. $6 billion in market cap is way too high. I am also invested in MJ which has a shit ton of stocks, even in Scott's and tobacco companies.MikeDamone said:
Cannabis stocks suck. I work in the industry. I own none and you’re a dumb fuck for buying them.2001400ex said:
I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
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Lemme guess...quality control?MikeDamone said:
Cannabis stocks suck. I work in the industry. I own none and you’re a dumb fuck for buying them.2001400ex said:
I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
#420BlazeItFaggot
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Go on. Continue.MikeDamone said:
Cannabis stocks suck. I work in the industry. I own none and you’re a dumb fuck for buying them.2001400ex said:
I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
My buddies own the top retail stores in your area. Who the fuck are you? -
I get the feeling DaBoner is full of shit and didn't even realize I meant Canadian companies.pawz said:
Go on. Continue.MikeDamone said:
Cannabis stocks suck. I work in the industry. I own none and you’re a dumb fuck for buying them.2001400ex said:
I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
My buddies own the top retail stores in your area. Who the fuck are you? -
For every 100 cannabis stocks, 97 are going to tank.
The 3% that make it wil be home runs.
Big pharma and big beverage will control that sector eventually. -
I think it'll be closer to 90/10. But that's exactly what I've said.PurpleThrobber said:For every 100 cannabis stocks, 97 are going to tank.
The 3% that make it wil be home runs.
Big pharma and big beverage will control that sector eventually. -
Because supply grossly outweighs demand in the States where it is legal. You can now buy top shelf weed for2001400ex said:
Please to be explaining why I'm a dumbfuck. There are a few like canopy that are way overvalued. I have invested in ones with a small market cap, such as Nameste and Cronos. I was in Cronos before it was listed on NASDAQ. I do know the big ones have been leveraging with stock acquisitions too much. $6 billion in market cap is way too high. I am also invested in MJ which has a shit ton of stocks, even in Scott's and tobacco companies.MikeDamone said:
Cannabis stocks suck. I work in the industry. I own none and you’re a dumb fuck for buying them.2001400ex said:
I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
$70 an ounce at some shops.
When it first became legal,
Prices were close to triple that. And until
The Feds Open the Gates, This market condition is
Not going anywhere. -
An economics expert started this thread, btw.
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Did your even look up the stocks I was talking about? Clearly not. At least DaBoner walked when he realized he didn't know what he fuck he was talking about.salemcoog said:
Because supply grossly outweighs demand in the States where it is legal. You can now buy top shelf weed for2001400ex said:
Please to be explaining why I'm a dumbfuck. There are a few like canopy that are way overvalued. I have invested in ones with a small market cap, such as Nameste and Cronos. I was in Cronos before it was listed on NASDAQ. I do know the big ones have been leveraging with stock acquisitions too much. $6 billion in market cap is way too high. I am also invested in MJ which has a shit ton of stocks, even in Scott's and tobacco companies.MikeDamone said:
Cannabis stocks suck. I work in the industry. I own none and you’re a dumb fuck for buying them.2001400ex said:
I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
$70 an ounce at some shops.
When it first became legal,
Prices were close to triple that. And until
The Feds Open the Gates, This market condition is
Not going anywhere. -
You're a socialist. What would you know about economics? Socialists are economics retards. Hth.ThomasFremont said:An economics expert started this thread, btw.
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I only understand the basics.ThomasFremont said:An economics expert started this thread, btw.
But the basics are fundamental.
We are still waiting for you to display any understanding.
HTH
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Buffett jettisoned IBM, a big loser —arguably a black eye for the Oracle who usually keeps what he buys.pawz said:
Even Warren Buffett sells on occasion.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
Over the past 40 years, Berkshire has averaged 20% growth YOY in book value, coincidently the same return investors who bought and held averaged, too. That’s doubling your $ every 4 years.
If Berk paid a dividend, I’d buy. They don’t, so I won’t.
Recognized dividend paying businesses, with deep moats. PEG’s at or near 1, lower the better.
I don’t give a shit if the market tanks, thats the best time to buy. Higher yields, more future income.
Fuck leveraged etfs. Fools game. Guaranteed losers long term. -
We?pawz said:
I only understand the basics.ThomasFremont said:An economics expert started this thread, btw.
But the basics are fundamental.
We are still waiting for you to display any understanding.
HTH -
Yes.ThomasFremont said:
We?pawz said:
I only understand the basics.ThomasFremont said:An economics expert started this thread, btw.
But the basics are fundamental.
We are still waiting for you to display any understanding.
HTH -
I didn’t walk. Still here waiting for a coherent argument. Yes, I’m in the industry. Not the retail side. And you need to think about what that is. I doubt you know.2001400ex said:
Did your even look up the stocks I was talking about? Clearly not. At least DaBoner walked when he realized he didn't know what he fuck he was talking about.salemcoog said:
Because supply grossly outweighs demand in the States where it is legal. You can now buy top shelf weed for2001400ex said:
Please to be explaining why I'm a dumbfuck. There are a few like canopy that are way overvalued. I have invested in ones with a small market cap, such as Nameste and Cronos. I was in Cronos before it was listed on NASDAQ. I do know the big ones have been leveraging with stock acquisitions too much. $6 billion in market cap is way too high. I am also invested in MJ which has a shit ton of stocks, even in Scott's and tobacco companies.MikeDamone said:
Cannabis stocks suck. I work in the industry. I own none and you’re a dumb fuck for buying them.2001400ex said:
I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
$70 an ounce at some shops.
When it first became legal,
Prices were close to triple that. And until
The Feds Open the Gates, This market condition is
Not going anywhere.
Also I’ve never touched the stuff outside of CBD oil THC free. -
Ok explain why Canadian Cannabis stocks are an awful investment.MikeDamone said:
I didn’t walk. Still here waiting for a coherent argument. Yes, I’m in the industry. Not the retail side. And you need to think about what that is. I doubt you know.2001400ex said:
Did your even look up the stocks I was talking about? Clearly not. At least DaBoner walked when he realized he didn't know what he fuck he was talking about.salemcoog said:
Because supply grossly outweighs demand in the States where it is legal. You can now buy top shelf weed for2001400ex said:
Please to be explaining why I'm a dumbfuck. There are a few like canopy that are way overvalued. I have invested in ones with a small market cap, such as Nameste and Cronos. I was in Cronos before it was listed on NASDAQ. I do know the big ones have been leveraging with stock acquisitions too much. $6 billion in market cap is way too high. I am also invested in MJ which has a shit ton of stocks, even in Scott's and tobacco companies.MikeDamone said:
Cannabis stocks suck. I work in the industry. I own none and you’re a dumb fuck for buying them.2001400ex said:
I actually have owned it for about 4 years. Got close to my money back. It is a 2x leveraged REIT tho. I'm worried at some point it'll slowly go down to zero. As it sells off the assets. I've mostly bought Cannabis stocks with the dividends, reinvested some. My Cannabis stocks haven't done the best.MikeDamone said:
Oh look. Hondo google highest dividend stock and claims he’s owned it for 4 years. Idiot AND liar. Abundance2001400ex said:
MORL. 20 % dividend the 4 years I've owned it.Baseman said:Buy great businesses that pay dividends. Reinvest the dividends. Buy more when opportunity presents. NEVER, EVER sell.
$70 an ounce at some shops.
When it first became legal,
Prices were close to triple that. And until
The Feds Open the Gates, This market condition is
Not going anywhere.
Also I’ve never touched the stuff outside of CBD oil THC free.
And I smoke like a chimney when I can. Which isn't that often cause like life responsibilities and shit.