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Which program - should they win another NT - replace SC or ND on Mt Rushmore?

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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,823
    Oklahoma

    Cool, I'm going to go kill myself now for being right.
    Coaching is what it's all about, but elite programs attract elite coaches.

    That's why Mt. Rushmore matters.

    Not saying elite programs only hire elite coaches, don't twist. Elite programs are by and large stupid as fuck. But they have a huge margin for error. All they have to do is get lucky once a quarter century and they stay at the top.

    Winners, eventually, win.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    Miami

    Good call on Denny

    Oregon State couldn't keep him either

    Miami didn't want to keep him
    You got that right. I'm not sure there's ever been a coach who won two titles who was less appreciated than Erickson at Miami. Nobody gave him any credit for the titles, and the very minute Miami looking human people were calling for his ass. It's almost like they didn't think an ex-Kewger belonged at Miami in the first place.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,096 Founders Club
    Oklahoma

    You got that right. I'm not sure there's ever been a coach who won two titles who was less appreciated than Erickson at Miami. Nobody gave him any credit for the titles, and the very minute Miami looking human people were calling for his ass. It's almost like they didn't think an ex-Kewger belonged at Miami in the first place.
    Alabama didn't even wait for Price to coach a game before they shit canned him
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Write-in Option
    dnc said:

    Coaching is what it's all about, but elite programs attract elite coaches.

    That's why Mt. Rushmore matters.

    Not saying elite programs only hire elite coaches, don't twist. Elite programs are by and large stupid as fuck. But they have a huge margin for error. All they have to do is get lucky once a quarter century and they stay at the top.

    Winners, eventually, win.

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,793 Founders Club
    Oklahoma

    Suzzzalo was the Gerberding of his time
    Suzzalo was such an upper campus, ivory tower fag, that he he came damn close to firing Hiram Conibear. Conibear sold the couch later that year in 1917 in a fruit tree accident.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,823
    Oklahoma


    " Elite programs are by and large stupid as fuck. "
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,096 Founders Club
    Oklahoma
    dnc said:

    " Elite programs are by and large stupid as fuck. "
    @PatHadenFS ? True?
  • GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Oklahoma
    I'm just here to jump on the Gloomy Gil bandwagon

  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,567 Founders Club
    Princeton
    Yale
    Alabama
    Notre Dame
    USC

    There are 5 spots on Mt. Rushmore now that Trump is the GOAT.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,793 Founders Club
    Oklahoma
    dnc said:

    " Elite programs are by and large stupid as fuck. "
    * All programs are by and large, stupid as fuck. I mean, when you think about it, what school has consistently made good coaching hire and after good coaching hire. Most coaches either suck or are mediocre and there's only a handful of truly elite ones. Even if you follow the Race Bannon philosophy of firing one every 3 years until you get a good one, a school can get on a decades long streak of drawing bad hands. SC with Carroll drew a 2 and 3 of clubs, and then got a straight flush on the flop.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    Miami

    @PatHadenFS ? True?
    Ah, where would we? be without Pat Haden.

    Love that guy.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    Miami

    Alabama didn't even wait for Price to coach a game before they shit canned him
    That was a banner day for Kewgs everywhere. Not embarrassing at all.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    Miami

    * All programs are by and large, stupid as fuck. I mean, when you think about it, what school has consistently made good coaching hire and after good coaching hire. Most coaches either suck or are mediocre and there's only a handful of truly elite ones. Even if you follow the Race Bannon philosophy of firing one every 3 years until you get a good one, a school can get on a decades long streak of drawing bad hands. SC with Carroll drew a 2 and 3 of clubs, and then got a straight flush on the flop.
    Does anyone remember the actual order Pete fell in for SC? It's become exaggerated over the years, but I distinctly remember them making a run for Mike Riley and getting rejected, but I think there were other attempts before they finally settled on Carroll.

    It is a head scratcher. One example near and dear to my heart: Al Golden. A guy who took a perennial loser at Temple ... no resources, a YUGE loser tradition, stupid school and program and made something of them. You would think that he would get to Miami and with what he had to work with there become a world beater. He was awful. The guy tried like a mother fucker, but it just didn't work, and they got worse and worse. Classic example right? You fuck up with Shannon, which was somewhat predictable, and then Golden seems like a solid hire.

    It's true what you say. There are only a really small handful who win at every stop. You gotta break the bank to keep those guysm.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,793 Founders Club
    Oklahoma

    Does anyone remember the actual order Pete fell in for SC? It's become exaggerated over the years, but I distinctly remember them making a run for Mike Riley and getting rejected, but I think there were other attempts before they finally settled on Carroll.

    It is a head scratcher. One example near and dear to my heart: Al Golden. A guy who took a perennial loser at Temple ... no resources, a YUGE loser tradition, stupid school and program and made something of them. You would think that he would get to Miami and with what he had to work with there become a world beater. He was awful. The guy tried like a mother fucker, but it just didn't work, and they got worse and worse. Classic example right? You fuck up with Shannon, which was somewhat predictable, and then Golden seems like a solid hire.

    It's true what you say. There are only a really small handful who win at every stop. You gotta break the bank to keep those guysm.
    Pete was their 4th choice if I recall correctly.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    Miami

    Pete was their 4th choice if I recall correctly.
    Yeah, something like that. And honestly, at the tim, there was no obvious reason for him to be higher.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,793 Founders Club
    Oklahoma

    Yeah, something like that. And honestly, at the tim, there was no obvious reason for him to be higher.
    It wasn't Herm Edwards bad, but not far from it.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,096 Founders Club
    Oklahoma
    I think USC really wanted Bellotti when they ended up with Pete
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,921
    It's officially Mount Rushmore season.
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