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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited June 2018
    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    edited June 2018

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,122

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Lol. I agree the article has Oregon (cal?) too high..but please name 40 programs that should be higher. That’s stupid af.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    ntxduck said:

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Lol. I agree the article has Oregon (cal?) too high..but please name 40 programs that should be higher. That’s stupid af.
    Fuck off to educk. You're as servile as doogs are to USC. Oregon is a destination job, bitch.
  • AUBURNTROJAN
    AUBURNTROJAN Member Posts: 192
    ntxduck said:

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Lol. I agree the article has Oregon (cal?) too high..but please name 40 programs that should be higher. That’s stupid af.
    I figured OBK would get whooshed here but I didn't expect it to be you. Or @AZDuck for that matter.

    NYBEs
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could NOT care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Jeeb jeeb jeebus.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Oregon is legit top 25 easily because of 2009- 14 and money. I don't have a problem with this. I still think UW has a somewhat higher ceiling because location and better in-state talent pool. But until Pete wins a CFP game it's going to be hard for us to separate ourselves from the Quooks.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited June 2018

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Fuck off

    As a Duck, I give full credit to Washington's 1991 title. But you're right...Washington State is a once published dynasty.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,060 Founders Club

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Medz dialed in today for creep.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Jesus fucking Christ - we're not top 40?

    We're 19th all time in wins for Div I A. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_football_teams_by_wins

    Evidence trumps dumb, effeminate, non-manly opinions.
    [Washington's All-Tim Wins]**








    ** On the backs of the USS Beatme Intramural, UPS, Whitman and Washington Teacher's College teams. Thanks Gil Dobie!

    Jim Jim Jimminy Christmas this fanbase takes itself seriously. What a somber bunch.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Fuck off

    As a Duck, I give full credit to Washington's 1991 title. But you're right...Washington State is a once published dynasty.
    I chinned that and barely understand your poont. It's just fun to have you come out and play.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Jesus fucking Christ - we're not top 40?

    We're 19th all time in wins for Div I A. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_football_teams_by_wins

    Evidence trumps dumb, effeminate, non-manly opinions.
    [Washington's All-Tim Wins]**








    ** On the backs of the USS Beatme Intramural, UPS, Whitman and Washington Teacher's College teams. Thanks Gil Dobie!

    Jim Jim Jimminy Christmas this fanbase takes itself seriously. What a somber bunch.
    Please forgive us. College Football didn't start until 1983. Christ.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    ... and,

    getting all boned up about 19th all-tim and overreacting to my poast in the first place is super manly.


    or it's not.

    At least you got the old man to wake up from his nap.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Jesus fucking Christ - we're not top 40?

    We're 19th all time in wins for Div I A. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_football_teams_by_wins

    Evidence trumps dumb, effeminate, non-manly opinions.
    [Washington's All-Tim Wins]**








    ** On the backs of the USS Beatme Intramural, UPS, Whitman and Washington Teacher's College teams. Thanks Gil Dobie!

    Jim Jim Jimminy Christmas this fanbase takes itself seriously. What a somber bunch.
    You'd kill for US(C) to have half as much respect for WSU as we do WASHINGTON, dammit
    This is true. You got me there.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Jesus fucking Christ - we're not top 40?

    We're 19th all time in wins for Div I A. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_football_teams_by_wins

    Evidence trumps dumb, effeminate, non-manly opinions.
    [Washington's All-Tim Wins]**








    ** On the backs of the USS Beatme Intramural, UPS, Whitman and Washington Teacher's College teams. Thanks Gil Dobie!

    Jim Jim Jimminy Christmas this fanbase takes itself seriously. What a somber bunch.
    Please forgive us. College Football didn't start until 1983. Christ.
    Good call.

    I may be Oregon-esque in my date preferences, but you'll have to forgive me if I don't assign a lot of weight to the pre-television era. I'm unique that way.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,233 Founders Club

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Jesus fucking Christ - we're not top 40?

    We're 19th all time in wins for Div I A. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_football_teams_by_wins

    Evidence trumps dumb, effeminate, non-manly opinions.
    [Washington's All-Tim Wins]**








    ** On the backs of the USS Beatme Intramural, UPS, Whitman and Washington Teacher's College teams. Thanks Gil Dobie!

    Jim Jim Jimminy Christmas this fanbase takes itself seriously. What a somber bunch.
    Please forgive us. College Football didn't start until 1983. Christ.
    Good call.

    I may be Oregon-esque in my date preferences, but you'll have to forgive me if I don't assign a lot of weight to the pre-television era. I'm unique that way.
    Jeeze. You think Hyman Roth was watching Miami on TV in the late 50's, when plenty of college game were televised?


  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Jesus fucking Christ - we're not top 40?

    We're 19th all time in wins for Div I A. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_football_teams_by_wins

    Evidence trumps dumb, effeminate, non-manly opinions.
    [Washington's All-Tim Wins]**








    ** On the backs of the USS Beatme Intramural, UPS, Whitman and Washington Teacher's College teams. Thanks Gil Dobie!

    Jim Jim Jimminy Christmas this fanbase takes itself seriously. What a somber bunch.
    Please forgive us. College Football didn't start until 1983. Christ.
    Good call.

    I may be Oregon-esque in my date preferences, but you'll have to forgive me if I don't assign a lot of weight to the pre-television era. I'm unique that way.
    Jeeze. You think Hyman Roth was watching Miami on TV in the late 50's, when plenty of college game were televised?


    Hyman didn't ask (weird noise) who gave the order. He knew Moe, knew he was headstrong, talking loud, saying stupid things, so when he turned up dead, Hyman let it go. And Hyman said to myself, ‘This is the business we’ve chosen! (weird noise again) I didn’t ask who gave the order! (weird noise again) Because it had nothing to do with business. (weird noise again)

    Yes, he was watching the Canes. The guy was in Miami at the tim. Do you think he was watching Washington play Arizona Women's College? Keep up.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    That seems about right. Oregon is at a disadvantage with weather, location, academics, and basically everything else, except for money and facilities. But money and facilities are fairly large aspects of a program's success.

    There are only three factors in determining the ultimate success of a program. Unlike my expectations for UW football, these factors never change and never waiver. They are the IRON LAWS of College Football. Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    Money. Location. Tradition.

    Facilities are a function of money, by the way.
    Oregon has the easiest route to recruiting nationally due to their money.

    I would probably argue that's their biggest advantage.
    Their money is a huge advantage. Their location is mediocre and their tradition is shit.

    Not top 40.
    Tradition doesn't mean shit anymore. These kids could care less. Which is good for Washington, because sorry, you don't have tradition. Oregon doesn't either

    Money and Location are huge though.

    Seattle>>>>>>>>>Eugene

    But Oregon has an unlimited piggy bank at it's disposal. That resource is a massive selling point to coaches. Oregon being 17th is debatable, but saying it isn't top 40 is the DPOTW.
    Frankly I don't think either Oregon or Washington are top 40. Watching you guys have your daily pillow fight is cute. When a kewg jumps in trying to belong, it's down right precious.

    You're all fighting over a collective 1/2 of a title.
    Jesus fucking Christ - we're not top 40?

    We're 19th all time in wins for Div I A. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_football_teams_by_wins

    Evidence trumps dumb, effeminate, non-manly opinions.
    [Washington's All-Tim Wins]**








    ** On the backs of the USS Beatme Intramural, UPS, Whitman and Washington Teacher's College teams. Thanks Gil Dobie!

    Jim Jim Jimminy Christmas this fanbase takes itself seriously. What a somber bunch.
    Please forgive us. College Football didn't start until 1983. Christ.
    Good call.

    I may be Oregon-esque in my date preferences, but you'll have to forgive me if I don't assign a lot of weight to the pre-television era. I'm unique that way.
    Jeeze. You think Hymen Roth was watching Miami on TV in the late 50's, when plenty of college game were televised?