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We'd have to do a little research project, but I suspect the evidence supports your hypothesis. Helfrich, Lambo, Uncle Fester, to name a few.creepycoug said:
point being, Helfrich was a decent coordinator taking over a pretty solid machine. those guys can ride momentum for a while, but eventually you have to fire up the engine again, and most can't. he couldn't.HorrifyinglyAlluring said:even larry couldn't fuck up those U teams he had his first 2 (3?) years
2002 is the greatest robbery in CFB history
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You're assuming that they didn't try and throw some money at some big time corches. Doesn't mean anyone had any interest anyways. Even Chip took the UCLA job instead.HorrifyinglyAlluring said:what did i say that was wrong though?
won a rose, played for natty, went 37-16. he doesn't get credit for VAJ balling out but gets blamed if VAJ is injured? i mean yes he was trending down but was 2016 a weird outlier or no? and fine, oregon wants chip-level success so they fire him and hire.....taggart? then fucking cristobal? not exactly win-at-all-costs levels of hiring, plus phil is still alive and they can outbid anyone for any coach.
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chip went to ucla before taggart LOLd out of town
that was a year later too
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Because there were a lot of big time coaches available at the time? Enjoy Petersen. He's so good no else is even trying to steal him. Maybe they know something doogs don't? I'd rather roll the dice with Cristobal for a year or two than take Pete, make the playoffs once, get our asses totally kicked, then peter out for 4 or 5 years before getting fired.UW_Doog_Bot said:
You're assuming that they didn't try and throw some money at some big time corches. Doesn't mean anyone had any interest anyways. Even Chip took the UCLA job instead.HorrifyinglyAlluring said:what did i say that was wrong though?
won a rose, played for natty, went 37-16. he doesn't get credit for VAJ balling out but gets blamed if VAJ is injured? i mean yes he was trending down but was 2016 a weird outlier or no? and fine, oregon wants chip-level success so they fire him and hire.....taggart? then fucking cristobal? not exactly win-at-all-costs levels of hiring, plus phil is still alive and they can outbid anyone for any coach.
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whatoregonblitzkrieg said:
Because there were a lot of big time coaches available at the time? Enjoy Petersen. He's so good no else is even trying to steal him. I'd rather roll the dice with Cristobal for a year or two than take Pete, make the playoffs once, get our asses totally kicked, then peter out for 4 or 5 years before getting fired.UW_Doog_Bot said:
You're assuming that they didn't try and throw some money at some big time corches. Doesn't mean anyone had any interest anyways. Even Chip took the UCLA job instead.HorrifyinglyAlluring said:what did i say that was wrong though?
won a rose, played for natty, went 37-16. he doesn't get credit for VAJ balling out but gets blamed if VAJ is injured? i mean yes he was trending down but was 2016 a weird outlier or no? and fine, oregon wants chip-level success so they fire him and hire.....taggart? then fucking cristobal? not exactly win-at-all-costs levels of hiring, plus phil is still alive and they can outbid anyone for any coach.
Just because you are the highest paying employer doesn't mean the best people want to work for you. -
Not trolling, Mark took a ready made winner and kept it above water for three years. He was completely hands off with the strength program and it got so bad by the time they fired him our young lineman were struggling to bench 225lbs, once. He also didn't want anything to do with the defense and special teams was used as his lab experiment (see the Nebraska game in Lincoln).HorrifyinglyAlluring said:what did i say that was wrong though?
won a rose, played for natty, went 37-16. he doesn't get credit for VAJ balling out but gets blamed if VAJ is injured? i mean yes he was trending down but was 2016 a weird outlier or no? and fine, oregon wants chip-level success so they fire him and hire.....taggart? then fucking cristobal? not exactly win-at-all-costs levels of hiring, plus phil is still alive and they can outbid anyone for any coach.
He could have easily done a good job in Eugene, but he just wasn't a head coach. I've said it before and I was 100% serious that 70-21 was the best thing to happen to Oregon since Chip left. The Ducks blew the biggest lead in history in that Alamo Bowl, get ass raped by UW, and lose to about the shittiest Beaver team ever. Also, the long tenured assistants didn't respect him or take him seriously and that's a cancer in itself.
Fast forward to now and the Ducks are on the same S&C program every middle school up to the SEC runs in the south (it's fucking weird, literally everyone does the exact same thing), recruiting is at a level it has never been before, and they have the highest paid coaching staff west of the Rockies.
Cristobal might end up being terrible, but I feel way more confident about the program's future today than I did at the end of 2015 when everyone could see the wheels were falling off.
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So Mustache Man runs a middle school S&C program and you're grossly overpaying for a coach selected by a player petition. Got it.Mosster47 said:
Not trolling, Mark took a ready made winner and kept it above water for three years. He was completely hands off with the strength program and it got so bad by the time they fired him our young lineman were struggling to bench 225lbs, once. He also didn't want anything to do with the defense and special teams was used as his lab experiment (see the Nebraska game in Lincoln).HorrifyinglyAlluring said:what did i say that was wrong though?
won a rose, played for natty, went 37-16. he doesn't get credit for VAJ balling out but gets blamed if VAJ is injured? i mean yes he was trending down but was 2016 a weird outlier or no? and fine, oregon wants chip-level success so they fire him and hire.....taggart? then fucking cristobal? not exactly win-at-all-costs levels of hiring, plus phil is still alive and they can outbid anyone for any coach.
He could have easily done a good job in Eugene, but he just wasn't a head coach. I've said it before and I was 100% serious that 70-21 was the best thing to happen to Oregon since Chip left. The Ducks blew the biggest lead in history in that Alamo Bowl, get ass raped by UW, and lose to about the shittiest Beaver team ever. Also, the long tenured assistants didn't respect him or take him seriously and that's a cancer in itself.
Fast forward to now and the Ducks are on the same S&C program every middle school up to the SEC runs in the south (it's fucking weird, literally everyone does the exact same thing), recruiting is at a level it has never been before, and they have the highest paid coaching staff west of the Rockies.
Cristobal might end up being terrible, but I feel way more confident about the program's future today than I did at the end of 2015 when everyone could see the wheels were falling off.
Helfrich is back to holding Chip's clip board which is where he shines. -
Googles for a refreshing summer cocktail to mix before reading the hot takes on this thread.
Finds it.
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And OS would have beaten them all in a playoff.YellowSnow said:
Hardly. 2000 is the greatest robbery in CFB history. We beat Miami, who beat Florida St who got to play OU for the NT.HorrifyinglyAlluring said:even larry couldn't fuck up those U teams he had his first 2 (3?) years
2002 is the greatest robbery in CFB history
worse than the bush push game imo
