Johnny Manziel: What Jake Locker could have been...

... had Sarkisian not tried to make him into a Dan Marino-style pocket passer.

Jake was every bit the same talent as a runner as Manziel and was bigger and stronger too.

Manziel's Cotton Bowl highlights.

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RoadDawg55

Locker Beat USC twice, won the holiday bowl championship, beat Pete, put the team on his back against tOSU, beat BYU before the refs fagged out and gave us Owen.

@byu and Nebraska to start his Heisman campaign were games you could say he didn't rise to the occasion. @BYU was a lot to do with play calling if I recall as well.

Either way im a stalker for Locker and I'll never change so fuck the haters.

It wasn't just BYU and Nebraska. Locker had a bunch of shitty games.

Dennis_DeYoung

Locker Beat USC twice, won the holiday bowl championship, beat Pete, put the team on his back against tOSU, beat BYU before the refs fagged out and gave us Owen.

@byu and Nebraska to start his Heisman campaign were games you could say he didn't rise to the occasion. @BYU was a lot to do with play calling if I recall as well.

Either way im a stalker for Locker and I'll never change so fuck the haters.

This.

Southerndawg

Locker Beat USC twice, won the holiday bowl championship, beat Pete, put the team on his back against tOSU, beat BYU before the refs fagged out and gave us Owen.

@byu and Nebraska to start his Heisman campaign were games you could say he didn't rise to the occasion. @BYU was a lot to do with play calling if I recall as well.

Either way im a stalker for Locker and I'll never change so fuck the haters.
This.

Agree. I've never really gotten the Locker bashing. He was easily the best option at the time. Also, anyone who thinks Pete's teams wouldn't have been substantially more competitive so far with him, well ..... you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it, you're kidding yourself if you don't believe it .... Come on ....

DerekJohnson

Locker Beat USC twice, won the holiday bowl championship, beat Pete, put the team on his back against tOSU, beat BYU before the refs fagged out and gave us Owen.

@byu and Nebraska to start his Heisman campaign were games you could say he didn't rise to the occasion. @BYU was a lot to do with play calling if I recall as well.

Either way im a stalker for Locker and I'll never change so fuck the haters.
This.
Agree. I've never really gotten the Locker bashing. He was easily the best option at the time. Also, anyone who thinks Pete's teams wouldn't have been substantially more competitive so far with him, well ..... you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it, you're kidding yourself if you don't believe it .... Come on ....

You sound like Griswold here

DerekJohnson

It's not about "bashing" Locker. It's about countering the demiGod status bestowed upon him by the UW athletic department and doogs.

chuck

It's not about "bashing" Locker. It's about countering the demiGod status bestowed upon him by the UW athletic department and doogs.

Seems like most of that eventually died out anyways. I think that, aside from a few funny doogs and a few unfunny doog website admins, most Lockner fans resigned themselves to simply trying to get his good points acknowledged alongside the bad.

dnc

It's not about "bashing" Locker. It's about countering the demiGod status bestowed upon him by the UW athletic department and doogs.
Seems like most of that eventually died out anyways. I think that, aside from a few funny doogs and a few unfunny doog website admins, most Lockner fans resigned themselves to simply trying to get his good points acknowledged alongside the bad.

There's still a few doogs even here who think we'd have won the natty with him in 2016, but overall, agree.

chuck

It's not about "bashing" Locker. It's about countering the demiGod status bestowed upon him by the UW athletic department and doogs.
Seems like most of that eventually died out anyways. I think that, aside from a few funny doogs and a few unfunny doog website admins, most Lockner fans resigned themselves to simply trying to get his good points acknowledged alongside the bad.
There's still a few doogs even here who think we'd have won the natty with him in 2016, but overall, agree.

With the Locker any of us ever saw? Haha no

With the hypothetical Locker that a hypothetical coach would have brought out? Yeah, I guess. He had the physical talent to carry a team at the highest level.

That hypothetical coach doesn't exist. You can't fix stupid.

UW_Doog_Bot

It's not about "bashing" Locker. It's about countering the demiGod status bestowed upon him by the UW athletic department and doogs.
Seems like most of that eventually died out anyways. I think that, aside from a few funny doogs and a few unfunny doog website admins, most Lockner fans resigned themselves to simply trying to get his good points acknowledged alongside the bad.
There's still a few doogs even here who think we'd have won the natty with him in 2016, but overall, agree.
With the Locker any of us ever saw? Haha no

With the hypothetical Locker that a hypothetical coach would have brought out? Yeah, I guess. He had the physical talent to carry a team at the highest level.

That hypothetical coach doesn't exist. You can't fix stupid.

All I'm saying is that there's a possible world where this scenario could exist...

chuck

It's not about "bashing" Locker. It's about countering the demiGod status bestowed upon him by the UW athletic department and doogs.
Seems like most of that eventually died out anyways. I think that, aside from a few funny doogs and a few unfunny doog website admins, most Lockner fans resigned themselves to simply trying to get his good points acknowledged alongside the bad.
There's still a few doogs even here who think we'd have won the natty with him in 2016, but overall, agree.
With the Locker any of us ever saw? Haha no

With the hypothetical Locker that a hypothetical coach would have brought out? Yeah, I guess. He had the physical talent to carry a team at the highest level.

That hypothetical coach doesn't exist. You can't fix stupid.
All I'm saying is that there's a possible world where this scenario could exist...

Every possible scenario can and does exist...except this one. I've checked the math.

dnc

It's not about "bashing" Locker. It's about countering the demiGod status bestowed upon him by the UW athletic department and doogs.
Seems like most of that eventually died out anyways. I think that, aside from a few funny doogs and a few unfunny doog website admins, most Lockner fans resigned themselves to simply trying to get his good points acknowledged alongside the bad.
There's still a few doogs even here who think we'd have won the natty with him in 2016, but overall, agree.
With the Locker any of us ever saw? Haha no

With the hypothetical Locker that a hypothetical coach would have brought out? Yeah, I guess. He had the physical talent to carry a team at the highest level.

That hypothetical coach doesn't exist. You can't fix stupid.
All I'm saying is that there's a possible world where this scenario could exist...

Disagree.

Lockner was damaged goods!

Doogles

Chip Kelly made Masoli and Thomas look like all-americans. Locker at Oregon would have been chinteresting.

Odds are @Mosster47 would still be waiting for him to get his reads down.

dnc

Chip Kelly made Masoli and Thomas look like all-americans. Locker at Oregon would have been chinteresting.

Odds are @Mosster47 would still be waiting for him to get his reads down.

This is the one scenario I will allow for Natty Lockner

RaceBannon

Chip Kelly made Masoli and Thomas look like all-americans. Locker at Oregon would have been chinteresting.

Odds are @Mosster47 would still be waiting for him to get his reads down.
This is the one scenario I will allow for Natty Lockner

Way way too much of the word "natty" in this conversation. All the talk of Stanford but sounds to me like folks got fucking Oregon lingo in their head. If you cant post without using Duck dialect go fuck yourself.

FireCohen

Lockner is like crack for doogs

WilburHooksHands

Manziel ran on scrambles, Locker ran on designed plays. No way Locker runs for 1400 yards in the SEC as a freshman.

chuck

Manziel ran on scrambles, Locker ran on designed plays. No way Locker runs for 1400 yards in the SEC as a freshman.

You can't expect a guy to improvise when they make him wear a helmet that covers his eyes.

RoadDawg55

Locker Beat USC twice, won the holiday bowl championship, beat Pete, put the team on his back against tOSU, beat BYU before the refs fagged out and gave us Owen.

@byu and Nebraska to start his Heisman campaign were games you could say he didn't rise to the occasion. @BYU was a lot to do with play calling if I recall as well.

Either way im a stalker for Locker and I'll never change so fuck the haters.
This.
Agree. I've never really gotten the Locker bashing. He was easily the best option at the time. Also, anyone who thinks Pete's teams wouldn't have been substantially more competitive so far with him, well ..... you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it, you're kidding yourself if you don't believe it .... Come on ....

The last time Jale Locker was a good QB was when he played at Ferndale.

GrundleStiltzkin

Quite frankly, Mitch, I don't deal in hypotheticals, unless it involves REAL Jake. He never got QB corching. Petersmens succeeded with Zabransky, and would have ripped shit with Real Jake. Fuck off.

Pitchfork51

He would have crushed it under sark