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You are arguing against yourself and you don't even realize it. OBK fucking stupid.oregonblitzkrieg said:
What's your point? If laying fiber is more expensive there, it only reinforces my argument that ISPs should be regarded as utilities. The competition argument falls flat. The cost of entering that market, laying fiber, etc. is way too high for people to expect completion to flourish.PurpleJ said:Portugal? Portugal is in the heavily regulated EU and is a socialist nation. I would be willing to bet that laying fiber is even more expensive there than it is here. Seems like you get what you pay for no matter what.
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All of you who are arguing against net neutrality are arguing for the right of ISPs to effectively be the arbiters and gatekeepers of information on the interwebs, and your access to it. That would give them more power than all the governments of the world. Do you really believe ISPs should have the right to engage in shit like slow and fast lanes, selectively choking off access to sites of their choosing?
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@SickManOfEurope true??????PurpleJ said:Portugal? Portugal is in the heavily regulated EU and is a socialist nation. I would be willing to bet that laying fiber is even more expensive there than it is here. Seems like you get what you pay for no matter what.
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Governments would NEVER censor information or limit your access to it, right comrade?oregonblitzkrieg said:All of you who are arguing against net neutrality are arguing for the right of ISPs to effectively be the arbiters and gatekeepers of information on the interwebs, and your access to it. That would give them more power than all the governments of the world. Do you really believe ISPs should have the right to engage in shit like slow and fast lanes, selectively choking off access to sites of their choosing?
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Facebook/Twitter/Derek would NEVER censor information or limit your access to it, right comrade?PurpleJ said:
Governments would NEVER censor information or limit your access to it, right comrade?oregonblitzkrieg said:All of you who are arguing against net neutrality are arguing for the right of ISPs to effectively be the arbiters and gatekeepers of information on the interwebs, and your access to it. That would give them more power than all the governments of the world. Do you really believe ISPs should have the right to engage in shit like slow and fast lanes, selectively choking off access to sites of their choosing?
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ISP's are much much more like utilities than private companies competing in a free market. Agreed that we need competition but this isn't the way that you are going to get it. I am biased in favor of free market solutions but there are very few ways to achieve an actual free market in this case. Laying new fiber in a location is prohibitive in a variety of ways and the existence of the current infrastructure often prohibits it completely. Until wireless catches up with cable you reasonably don't have a shot at real competition.
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They are because the government made them that way. It was dumb when they did it with phone companies and even dumber when they repeated those mistakes.UW_Doog_Bot said:ISP's are much much more like utilities than private companies competing in a free market. Agreed that we need competition but this isn't the way that you are going to get it. I am biased in favor of free market solutions but there are very few ways to achieve an actual free market in this case. Laying new fiber in a location is prohibitive in a variety of ways and the existence of the current infrastructure often prohibits it completely. Until wireless catches up with cable you reasonably don't have a shot at real competition.
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All two of them?PurpleJ said:
Commies gonna commie. You are free to choose any ISP you want.oregonblitzkrieg said:This was easily the most retarded policy under Trump. Makes zero sense, hurts consumers, does NOTHING to spur innovation as claimed, and opens the door for abuse by ISPs.
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Portugal is your source?oregonblitzkrieg said:Learn from the idiots that came before you, or repeat their mistakes.
"Portugal's internet shows us a world without net neutrality, and it's ugly"
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Pray tell, who's competing with who for our? business?PurpleJ said:The internet is not a public utility and should not be treated as such.
You like to think that making it a government sanctioned monopoly will improve service levels and encourage competition. That's what you like to do. Commie. -
I don't have competition for wirelessUW_Doog_Bot said:ISP's are much much more like utilities than private companies competing in a free market. Agreed that we need competition but this isn't the way that you are going to get it. I am biased in favor of free market solutions but there are very few ways to achieve an actual free market in this case. Laying new fiber in a location is prohibitive in a variety of ways and the existence of the current infrastructure often prohibits it completely. Until wireless catches up with cable you reasonably don't have a shot at real competition.
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Anyone with money to invest in said business.pawz said:
Pray tell, who's competing with who for our? business?PurpleJ said:The internet is not a public utility and should not be treated as such.
You like to think that making it a government sanctioned monopoly will improve service levels and encourage competition. That's what you like to do. Commie.
Maybe Amazon should join the race. OBK? Thoughts? -
Government overreach and censorship isn't the topic, ISP abuse is. Water and electric companies are utilities that deliver your water and electricity. They are not permitted to slow down or speed up delivery of their product to extort more money from you the customer. Nor are they allowed to decide how you can use your water and electricity. So why should ISPs have that power? Like water and electric companies, their sole purpose is to deliver access to an essential commodity, in this case, information. Yes, you can pay more up front for faster internet, but that's different than selectively speeding up or slowing down access to individual sites.PurpleJ said:
Governments would NEVER censor information or limit your access to it, right comrade?oregonblitzkrieg said:All of you who are arguing against net neutrality are arguing for the right of ISPs to effectively be the arbiters and gatekeepers of information on the interwebs, and your access to it. That would give them more power than all the governments of the world. Do you really believe ISPs should have the right to engage in shit like slow and fast lanes, selectively choking off access to sites of their choosing?
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Ever been to Flint?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Government overreach and censorship isn't the topic, ISP abuse is. Water and electric companies are utilities that deliver your water and electricity. They are not permitted to slow down or speed up delivery of their product to extort more money from you the customer. Nor are they allowed to decide how you can use your water and electricity. So why should ISPs have that power? Like water and electric companies, their sole purpose is to deliver access to an essential commodity, in this case, information.PurpleJ said:
Governments would NEVER censor information or limit your access to it, right comrade?oregonblitzkrieg said:All of you who are arguing against net neutrality are arguing for the right of ISPs to effectively be the arbiters and gatekeepers of information on the interwebs, and your access to it. That would give them more power than all the governments of the world. Do you really believe ISPs should have the right to engage in shit like slow and fast lanes, selectively choking off access to sites of their choosing?
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This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.
That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business. -
We?ve been hearing the last decade or so what poor condition that infrastructure is in.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Government overreach and censorship isn't the topic, ISP abuse is. Water and electric companies are utilities that deliver your water and electricity. They are not permitted to slow down or speed up delivery of their product to extort more money from you the customer. Nor are they allowed to decide how you can use your water and electricity. So why should ISPs have that power? Like water and electric companies, their sole purpose is to deliver access to an essential commodity, in this case, information. Yes, you can pay more up front for faster internet, but that's different than selectively speeding up or slowing down access to individual sites.PurpleJ said:
Governments would NEVER censor information or limit your access to it, right comrade?oregonblitzkrieg said:All of you who are arguing against net neutrality are arguing for the right of ISPs to effectively be the arbiters and gatekeepers of information on the interwebs, and your access to it. That would give them more power than all the governments of the world. Do you really believe ISPs should have the right to engage in shit like slow and fast lanes, selectively choking off access to sites of their choosing?
Not saying causation.
Only implying causation.
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There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.SarkFanSixtyNine said:This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.
That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.
Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock. -
You should move to Portugal or the UK. You can pay extra there to access sites like Facebook and Youtube. You can buy social media bundles and video bundles, in addition to what you're already paying for internet access. Make extortion great again. Guyz, you don't have to follow the Trumpster on everything. Sometims he's wrong. Getting rid of net neutrality was the private vendetta of one of his retarded monkey henchman. Just like getting rid of weed is the vendetta of another of his stupid henchman. These people are certifiable idiots, and should have been fired from their posts a long time ago.SarkFanSixtyNine said:This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.
That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.
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The materials used for the wiring to create bandwidth aren't finite? Staff? True???!UWhuskytskeet said:
There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.SarkFanSixtyNine said:This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.
That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.
Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock. -
Idiots arguing against their own interests as consumers is special.PurpleJ said:
The materials used for the wiring to create bandwidth aren't finite? Staff? True???!UWhuskytskeet said:
There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.SarkFanSixtyNine said:This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.
That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.
Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock. -
I keep finding extra layers of retard in this post.SarkFanSixtyNine said:This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.
That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.
People that want faster speeds already pay more than people that want slow speeds. -
OBK is the poster child of WTGWT. He shares the same dumb line of reasoning as *gasp* Bernie/Hillary supporters. Luckily Trump is a lot smarter than most of the idiots that vote and I thank him for his service.
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Do you think little bits of wire fall apart every time you use the internet?PurpleJ said:
The materials used for the wiring to create bandwidth aren't finite? Staff? True???!UWhuskytskeet said:
There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.SarkFanSixtyNine said:This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.
That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.
Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock. -
No, but what does that have to do with your retarded ass post?UWhuskytskeet said:
Do you think little bits of wire fall apart every time you use the internet?PurpleJ said:
The materials used for the wiring to create bandwidth aren't finite? Staff? True???!UWhuskytskeet said:
There isn't a bandwidth shortage. We aren't talking about water or electricity, it's not a finite resource.SarkFanSixtyNine said:This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.
That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business.
Besides, Netflix pays for the bandwidth that they use. Fuck Comcast for trying to double dip and charge the end user too. And fuck any of you retards that don't understand the concept and gladly take that Comcast cock. -
What's comcast?
Do you pay more for more TV stations? Do you pay extra for channels that show tits? Of course you do
If the internet splinters into tiers of service after wiping out entertainment providers it would be naive to think they wouldn't adopt the same practices
Nobody is in business to make some boner sweatpants loser in his basement happy -
This is the best aids infested thread on the subject yet
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OBK and I agree. And troomps that follow the Trump corporate line are awesome.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You should move to Portugal or the UK. You can pay extra there to access sites like Facebook and Youtube. You can buy social media bundles and video bundles, in addition to what you're already paying for internet access. Make extortion great again. Guyz, you don't have to follow the Trumpster on everything. Sometims he's wrong. Getting rid of net neutrality was the private vendetta of one of his retarded monkey henchman. Just like getting rid of weed is the vendetta of another of his stupid henchman. These people are certifiable idiots, and should have been fired from their posts a long time ago.SarkFanSixtyNine said:This is basically just a war over who pays for the HD video that is already hogging all the bandwidth and will soon overwhelm capacity. Obviously shitheads watching Netflix all day should pay more for internet usage than my grandma who does nothing but check her AOL email. This concept is tyranny or something according to liberals. There's no way ISPs start getting into the minutiae of low bandwidth site access speed which is what's actually important about the internet and what liars are pretending the issue is.
That said I do hope these disgusting cable companies get obliterated because it's impossible to justify their business practices or profits. They lied and bribed their way into local monopolies and then started raping customers without lube. This industry is a perfectly sickening example of typical modern era business. -
I trust the government
And the coaches
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Fuck cox and fuck comcast.
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If this was actually about introducing more competition, the ISPs wouldn't be lobbying in favor of it. HTH
