NBA Playoff Megathread

Gladstone said:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/8/17440192/lebron-james-boston-celtics-offseason

"Going to Boston would kill two birds with one stone. LeBron would be in a position to break Bill Russell’s record of 10 consecutive NBA Finals appearances (he is currently at eight between Miami and Cleveland), while simultaneously removing the biggest obstacle in his path. It would be the exact opposite move that Kevin Durant made. Instead of joining a team that eliminated him and had already won a title, LeBron would be partnering with a group of young up-and-comers whom he had beaten almost single-handedly. Nike could sell it as LeBron imparting his wisdom to the next generation of players.

There would be pushback from fans and the media, but LeBron knows how quickly that can change. He was the most hated athlete in America after The Decision, and no one holds that against him anymore. Even his hometown fans in Cleveland wouldn’t be that mad this time around, since he’s leaving after “winning one for the Land.” American society is a prisoner of the moment. It won’t matter how LeBron’s move to Boston is initially perceived if he ends up beating Golden State, easily the most talented team of all time. It would be great for the NBA as well, since LeBron going up against the Warriors on equal terms would likely create the highest-rated Finals in the past 20 years."

LBJ would be in the discussion of top 2-3 player ever quite easily going to Boston

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Winners win is the laziest comment perpetuated on this bored. Win and you are a winner. Gee, no kidding.

You new here?

haie said:

Sources are saying that Dame and CJ flew into Cleveland tonight for a private meeting with Lebron after the game.

Love for those two?

BleachedAnusDawg said:

LeBron is in the top-2 discussion now. If you use the championships metric as the most important measure of GOAT you are FS. Bob Horry says hi.

For getting swept like old dirt in the finals?

Gladstone said:

ahh there it is, now just throw teq of 'defending sark into year 5 ' fame and salem 'derplord' coog in here and then we can put on a festival

what other lowest common denominator context-deprived team stats can we throw out there, boys

at least winners win, right?

You sound like a Coug after AC.

Tequilla said:

Gladstone said:

ahh there it is, now just throw teq of 'defending sark into year 5 ' fame and salem 'derplord' coog in here and then we can put on a festival

what other lowest common denominator context-deprived team stats can we throw out there, boys

at least winners win, right?

I was not defending Sark in Year 5 ... but go ahead and enjoy that parade on Tuesday

You did.

Gladstone said:

ahh there it is, now just throw teq of 'defending sark into year 5 ' fame and salem 'derplord' coog in here and then we can put on a festival

what other lowest common denominator context-deprived team stats can we throw out there, boys

at least winners win, right?

I was not defending Sark in Year 5 ... but go ahead and enjoy that parade on Tuesday

RoadDawg55 said:

Tequilla said:

Gladstone said:

ahh there it is, now just throw teq of 'defending sark into year 5 ' fame and salem 'derplord' coog in here and then we can put on a festival

what other lowest common denominator context-deprived team stats can we throw out there, boys

at least winners win, right?

I was not defending Sark in Year 5 ... but go ahead and enjoy that parade on Tuesday

You did.

Actually I didn’t ... I was one of the most vocal regarding firing him.

Too many confuse what I said Sark needed to do to keep his job after Year 5 as a sign of defending him ... not even close to the same thing

RoadDawg55 said:

Tequilla said:

Gladstone said:

ahh there it is, now just throw teq of 'defending sark into year 5 ' fame and salem 'derplord' coog in here and then we can put on a festival

what other lowest common denominator context-deprived team stats can we throw out there, boys

at least winners win, right?

I was not defending Sark in Year 5 ... but go ahead and enjoy that parade on Tuesday

RoadDawg55 said:

Tequilla said:

Gladstone said:

ahh there it is, now just throw teq of 'defending sark into year 5 ' fame and salem 'derplord' coog in here and then we can put on a festival

what other lowest common denominator context-deprived team stats can we throw out there, boys

at least winners win, right?

I was not defending Sark in Year 5 ... but go ahead and enjoy that parade on Tuesday

You did.

Actually I didn’t ... I was one of the most vocal regarding firing him.

Too many confuse what I said Sark needed to do to keep his job after Year 5 as a sign of defending him ... not even close to the same thing

I remember you back to dawgman defending Sark. I'm sure you had some criticisms of him in your tl,dr posts, but you didn't call for him to very fired until the middle of year 5.

I was very critical of him after Year 3 and then he fired his defensive staff to buy himself more time

After Pete kicked his ass in Vegas it was fairly clear that he wasn’t the right coach to take UW to the next level ... that being said really hard for an AD to fire him at that point

Again, I think where you (and others) confuse what I say is that I don’t just randomly half ass call for people to be fired. I tend to treat those discussions as part of a resume and body of work.

What we will never know is whether Sark would have got fired after Year 5 (he should have) ... so praise be to Pat Haden

dnc said:

BaldwinIV said:

yes lebron is primarily responsible for the make up of the team

but you cant scratch two sticks together and make gold. kyrie irving left and in return they got an average point guard, a bench player, and a complete nothing. its widely reported lebron wanted the cavs to trade their pick for deandre

and this is all besides the point. lebron literally had one of the best seasons in history, in any context, and given what i listed many still believe he needed an excuse for getting swept in the finals lmfao

it is literally 4 hall of famers against lebron, the magically disappearing and randomly appearing kevin love, and the nba's version of a YMCA team. why the fuck would lebron need an excuse? it's clear to virtually everyone he's the best player on the planet for simply making the finals

some of ya'll should just admit you hate him because you're MJ fans and feel threatened

I hate MJ

Agree.

For fuck's sake I'm a fucking Lakers fan. I grew up absolutely hating MJ. He's still the all tim best though. I 100% hoped Kobe would manage to surpass his ass. He didn't. Neither has Lebron.

Some of you just need to admit you've been on the Lebron = Goat narrative since before he ever earned it on the court.

I'll still be enthusiastic as fuck if he comes to LA with at least one other major free agent.

RoadDawg55 said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

dnc said:

BaldwinIV said:

yes lebron is primarily responsible for the make up of the team

but you cant scratch two sticks together and make gold. kyrie irving left and in return they got an average point guard, a bench player, and a complete nothing. its widely reported lebron wanted the cavs to trade their pick for deandre

and this is all besides the point. lebron literally had one of the best seasons in history, in any context, and given what i listed many still believe he needed an excuse for getting swept in the finals lmfao

it is literally 4 hall of famers against lebron, the magically disappearing and randomly appearing kevin love, and the nba's version of a YMCA team. why the fuck would lebron need an excuse? it's clear to virtually everyone he's the best player on the planet for simply making the finals

some of ya'll should just admit you hate him because you're MJ fans and feel threatened

I hate MJ

Agree.

For fuck's sake I'm a fucking Lakers fan. I grew up absolutely hating MJ. He's still the all tim best though. I 100% hoped Kobe would manage to surpass his ass. He didn't. Neither has Lebron.

Some of you just need to admit you've been on the Lebron = Goat narrative since before he ever earned it on the court.

I'll still be enthusiastic as fuck if he comes to LA with at least one other major free agent.

I wasn't on the LeBron GOAT narrative before he beat GS in the finals. I hated him for a long time, but at a certain point it was undeniable.

Then you add in his next two years and predict the future. He's the best.

MJ had a lot more charisma and won more titles. There really wasn't one thing he did better than LeBron on the court.

Let’s see ... what did MJ do better than LBJ

Scored better

Better defender

Better competitive streak

And yeah, that winning thing kinda matters

RoadDawg55 said:

Tequilla said:

RoadDawg55 said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

dnc said:

BaldwinIV said:

yes lebron is primarily responsible for the make up of the team

but you cant scratch two sticks together and make gold. kyrie irving left and in return they got an average point guard, a bench player, and a complete nothing. its widely reported lebron wanted the cavs to trade their pick for deandre

and this is all besides the point. lebron literally had one of the best seasons in history, in any context, and given what i listed many still believe he needed an excuse for getting swept in the finals lmfao

it is literally 4 hall of famers against lebron, the magically disappearing and randomly appearing kevin love, and the nba's version of a YMCA team. why the fuck would lebron need an excuse? it's clear to virtually everyone he's the best player on the planet for simply making the finals

some of ya'll should just admit you hate him because you're MJ fans and feel threatened

I hate MJ

Agree.

For fuck's sake I'm a fucking Lakers fan. I grew up absolutely hating MJ. He's still the all tim best though. I 100% hoped Kobe would manage to surpass his ass. He didn't. Neither has Lebron.

Some of you just need to admit you've been on the Lebron = Goat narrative since before he ever earned it on the court.

I'll still be enthusiastic as fuck if he comes to LA with at least one other major free agent.

I wasn't on the LeBron GOAT narrative before he beat GS in the finals. I hated him for a long time, but at a certain point it was undeniable.

Then you add in his next two years and predict the future. He's the best.

MJ had a lot more charisma and won more titles. There really wasn't one thing he did better than LeBron on the court.

Let’s see ... what did MJ do better than LBJ

Scored better

Better defender

Better competitive streak

And yeah, that winning thing kinda matters

Not a better defender. LeBron was the best defender in the league for awhile. Not a better scorer, especially as they got older. LeBron is more efficient as well.

Equal shooters. LeBron has gotten much better. LeBron is a better passer and rebounder.

I'll give you competive streak, although LeBron has put the Cavs on his back every year he's been with them.

LeBron's main fault is he's a drama queen. A lot of the dissension and turmoil could be avoided if he wasn't a passive aggressive pussy at times. Part of that is the twitter/hot take media.

Yeah, LeBron's actually a significantly better shooter. Jordan's effective shooting percentage was .509, Bron's is .540. Of course Jordan's got the two past his prime Washington years dragging his numbers down but even without them Bron had the edge.

Agree about Bron's biggest fault.

Jordan was a better scorer. Part of that is Lebron is a much better passer.

The competitive thing is hanging on to an old narrative. Lebron put together the greatest game ever played down 3-2 to Boston with the entire Heat future on the line. Popovich basically challenged his manhood in their first Finals and Lebron responded. Pop even said to him after game game 7 something to the effect of “you won because you played like Lebron James”. The first Finals against Golden State he tried to backpack the Cavs and then down 3-1 the next year he had 3 straight amazing games. He carried a team that would win 20 games without him to the Finals and then should have won game 1 against the most talented team ever but his 20 win retard teammates let him down. Lebron has had questionable moments but most of them are far in the past.

Lebron has fallen off as a defender. I don’t think he’s been a great defender since he was on the Heat. MJ mainted the high level defense but this league is much harder to play on both ends. At their peaks Lebron gets a slight edge because of his size. In NBA history who couldn’t Lebron guard? Shaq? Anyone else?

I’m not going to say winning doesn’t matter but Jesus look at who Lebron has beaten in the Finals.
Durant
Westbrook
Harden
Duncan
Parker
Ginobili
Kawhi
Curry
Thompson
Draymond
Iguodala

That’s the next 25 years of hall of fame inductions.

The difference in championships is beating a washed Magic and Stockton, Malone twice. What are the other titles? Drexler? The fucking Sonics? And Jordan never had to play a ranked Oregon State.