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Swaye
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...when Trump gets reelected.
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I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
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Would be fun to watch for sure, but I don't think it's happening
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All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing. -
All depends on who the Dems run and where the economy is. If the stock market is still cruising along, North Korea is contained, everyone is enjoying their tax cuts, and unemployment is 4 percent, and the Dems push out a progressive retard, it's over. 4 more years of total awesome.dnc said:Would be fun to watch for sure, but I don't think it's happening
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It's awfully warm for November 2020.
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I give to you Trump's worst 2020 nightmare and your next President:
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It blows my mind how elitist I'm smarter than you liberals can't see that they are the reason Trump won.Swaye said:...when Trump gets reelected.
Edit: and will win again. What does it make you if you lose to deplorables twice? -
they will fuck it up. not the way they did before, but they'll find a way.Pitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
#nobodycaresaboutbathrooms
#itsoverthegaysgotthemarriage
#letitgo
#forgetaboutguns
#jimminnychristmas -
Hell the Dems would have won if even the Republicans ran a decent candidate!
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This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
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How the fuck does that make any sense? If the people supported a Democratic health plan and ending the war as a priority wouldn't they have kept those seats?HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
Stay in your lane. -
HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
Did a little bird tell you that?
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Because Obamacare was bad health care reform and was an obvious political loser for 3 straight election cycles.BleachedAnusDawg said:
How the fuck does that make any sense? If the people supported a Democratic health plan and ending the war as a priority wouldn't they have kept those seats?HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
Stay in your lane.
Check the polling for an actual universal program like Medicare for all.
A lot of the base wanted single payer and to wind down our wars. Instead he sent more troops to Afghanistan and then overthrew Gaddafi. -
I liked Bernie at first. But he became a Sawant-like one-trick-pony way early, and steadily went downhill from there. His Free College for Everyone idea proved he was already suffering from senility and dementia.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
And Trump would've slaughtered him in TV in the debates. That's Trump's home field. -
Obama lost 100's of seats because hate motivates at the polls.
It is the same reason Trump will lose both houses. -
ExactlyHardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
Raise taxes take guns and eliminate free will is the winning platform
Do it please -
You followed the 2016 election and actually thought: 1. Trump was good in the debates, and 2. The debates matter to votersTurdBuffer said:
I liked Bernie at first. But he became a Sawant-like one-trick-pony way early, and steadily went downhill from there. His Free College for Everyone idea proved he was already suffering from senility and dementia.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
And Trump would've slaughtered him in TV in the debates. That's Trump's home field.
Moron -
Such fag Race.RaceBannon said:
ExactlyHardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
Raise taxes take guns and eliminate free will is the winning platform
Do it please -
A lot of people:topdawgnc said:Obama lost 100's of seats because hate motivates at the polls.
It is the same reason Trump will lose both houses.
1) hate that a black man was in office
2) believed he was a Muslim born in Kenya.
There's a lot of stupid voters. -
“Eliminating free will” is making rich people pay more in taxes and making it harder for crazy people to buy AR-15s. Stellar stuff.RaceBannon said:
ExactlyHardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
Raise taxes take guns and eliminate free will is the winning platform
Do it please -
@BallSacked is that you?HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump. -
For midterms it’s a combination of hatred from the other political party and not doing enough to motivate your own base. That’s why the Dems got destroyed in 2010 and 2014.topdawgnc said:Obama lost 100's of seats because hate motivates at the polls.
It is the same reason Trump will lose both houses.
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Your point is stupid and not relevant.2001400ex said:
A lot of people:topdawgnc said:Obama lost 100's of seats because hate motivates at the polls.
It is the same reason Trump will lose both houses.
1) hate that a black man was in office
2) believed he was a Muslim born in Kenya.
There's a lot of stupid voters.
But keep on keeping on. -
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies. -
Bullshit. That was garbage political anal isis.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
You are saying that Obama and Hillary weren't liberal enuff. Kriminy.
Wrong.
They were too fucking liberal. Obama forced the issue with healthcare, which was bound to be controversial and alienating and full of problems.
And the left was too focused on bathrooms, gay rights and other fringy social issues that don't speak to the mind of the working class Democrat, and not enuff time on jobs, evil corporatations not paying their faire share of taxes and moving jobs oversees, the military, God and American interests in general. Watch the Campaign sometime. There are some good lessons in that movie. You literally have to say "Support Our Troops" every five minutes to court the average American dipshit vote. Hillary chose instead to insult them with "deplorables" and talk over their heads. Plus, she's just not fucking relatable ... at. all.
You make it sound like not enough people in SoHo came out to cast their Dem vote. Bullshit. The problem was that the blue collar guy in the Ohio River Valley who comes from a long line of Democratic populists came out and voted, but switched parties because of the monumentally bad campaign the Dems ran. It's that simple.
You had better hope that they drop the guns bit before the next election. Guns will be the next bathroom issue to bury the Dems.
When will the lesson be learned? There are legions of fucking life-long democrats who didn't attend elite colleges, who don't come from money and who don't live in Manhattan or San Francisco. THOSE are the people the D party need to get back on board.
They won't.
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While this is absolutely true, it isn't the reason the Dems. lost the Presidency.2001400ex said:
A lot of people:topdawgnc said:Obama lost 100's of seats because hate motivates at the polls.
It is the same reason Trump will lose both houses.
1) hate that a black man was in office
2) believed he was a Muslim born in Kenya.
There's a lot of stupid voters. -
Obama’s health care reform wasn’t actually liberal. It was market based means testing with some medicaid expansion and it sucked.creepycoug said:
Bullshit. That was garbage political anal isis.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
You are saying that Obama and Hillary weren't liberal enuff. Kriminy.
Wrong.
They were too fucking liberal. Obama forced the issue with healthcare, which was bound to be controversial and alienating and full of problems.
And the left was too focused on bathrooms, gay rights and other fringy social issues that don't speak to the mind of the working class Democrat, and not enuff time on jobs, evil corporatations not paying their faire share of taxes and moving jobs oversees, the military, God and American interests in general. Watch the Campaign sometime. There are some good lessons in that movie. You literally have to say "Support Our Troops" every five minutes to court the average American dipshit vote. Hillary chose instead to insult them with "deplorables" and talk over their heads. Plus, she's just not fucking relatable ... at. all.
You make it sound like not enough people in SoHo came out to cast their Dem vote. Bullshit. The problem was that the blue collar guy in the Ohio River Valley who comes from a long line of Democratic populists came out and voted, but switched parties because of the monumentally bad campaign the Dems ran. It's that simple.
You had better hope that they drop the guns bit before the next election. Guns will be the next bathroom issue to bury the Dems.
When will the lesson be learned? There are legions of fucking life-long democrats who didn't attend elite colleges, who don't come from money and who don't live in Manhattan or San Francisco. THOSE are the people the D party need to get back on board.
They won't.
The college educated elite Dems in SF and NY are “liberal” in a cultural sense but are basically 1970’s Republicans when it comes to economics.
The blue collar people are who the left wing of the democratic party are targeting with universal social welfare programs and progressive labor law. Bernie is a new deal Democrat. -
Sort of. It had to do w/ policies in that Hillary ran a campaign on policies that ranged from marginally important to retarded.Pitchfork51 said:
Oh my God.HardlyClothed said:
This is garbage poltical analysis.Swaye said:
All the Dems have to do is run a moderate, just as you suggest. They will trot out Pocahontas or some other socialist and get drubbed. LRRPitchfork51 said:I can't see any way he doesn't.
I mean aside from the totally obvious democrat move which is run a decent moderate candidate.
Which there is about 0 chance of them doing.
Hillary lost because the progressive base didn’t turn out for her.
The Dems lost hundreds of seats during the Obama years because he did shitty Republican health care reform and expanded our forever wars in the Middle East.
Hillary was the center-left establishment moderate who pandered to “moderate” Republican voters instead of the liberal base, and it failed spectacularly.
A democrat from the left-wing of the party would have trounced Trump.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
They are gonna do it too.
They still don't fucking get it. It's insane.
Hillary losing and trump winning had fucking zero to do with her platform or policies.
She thought she could get elected with the Berkeley vote. And she almost did, until yet another bit of info "leaked" questioning her integrity. That was one thing Obama didn't have to carry ... nobody really believes the birthers - even Bannon calls that crowd "fringe".
