Follow up to my tweet on P12 recruiting vs. NFL Draft
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Darnold’s regression isn’t a good lookdnc said:
I’m mostly with you on recruiting. I don’t think he’s any worse of a developer than his post Carroll predecessors though.Tequilla said:
Yesdnc said:
You think Helton's worse at developing players than Sark/Kiffen?Tequilla said:The USC data is super damning and will only get worse under Helton
Did anybody else catch the coaching dig during the draft when talking about how Darnold showed minimal improvement from Year 1 and 2 and how much he will be coached up quickly at the NFL level?
And moreso, I think the area where there is going to be an even bigger gap is that Helton’s recruiting will gradually start falling off in part as we get stronger. The fact that Helton’s group is largely super lazy by offering guys we offer immediately after we offer them isn’t a good look
The next 2-3 years will be telling
If he’s an absolute disaster he will get fired ... so I’m hoping he’s at least moderately competent. The longer Helton holds the SC job the better for UW -
Helton has one more year. USC may fuck up the hires but they fire fast
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I doubt any QB would feel negative about Darnold. He went #3.Tequilla said:
Darnold’s regression isn’t a good lookdnc said:
I’m mostly with you on recruiting. I don’t think he’s any worse of a developer than his post Carroll predecessors though.Tequilla said:
Yesdnc said:
You think Helton's worse at developing players than Sark/Kiffen?Tequilla said:The USC data is super damning and will only get worse under Helton
Did anybody else catch the coaching dig during the draft when talking about how Darnold showed minimal improvement from Year 1 and 2 and how much he will be coached up quickly at the NFL level?
And moreso, I think the area where there is going to be an even bigger gap is that Helton’s recruiting will gradually start falling off in part as we get stronger. The fact that Helton’s group is largely super lazy by offering guys we offer immediately after we offer them isn’t a good look
The next 2-3 years will be telling
If he’s an absolute disaster he will get fired ... so I’m hoping he’s at least moderately competent. The longer Helton holds the SC job the better for UW -
Not saying the #3 is a good look ... saying that the criticism of the staff isn’t a good lookRoadDawg55 said:
I doubt any QB would feel negative about Darnold. He went #3.Tequilla said:
Darnold’s regression isn’t a good lookdnc said:
I’m mostly with you on recruiting. I don’t think he’s any worse of a developer than his post Carroll predecessors though.Tequilla said:
Yesdnc said:
You think Helton's worse at developing players than Sark/Kiffen?Tequilla said:The USC data is super damning and will only get worse under Helton
Did anybody else catch the coaching dig during the draft when talking about how Darnold showed minimal improvement from Year 1 and 2 and how much he will be coached up quickly at the NFL level?
And moreso, I think the area where there is going to be an even bigger gap is that Helton’s recruiting will gradually start falling off in part as we get stronger. The fact that Helton’s group is largely super lazy by offering guys we offer immediately after we offer them isn’t a good look
The next 2-3 years will be telling
If he’s an absolute disaster he will get fired ... so I’m hoping he’s at least moderately competent. The longer Helton holds the SC job the better for UW -
Been there 2 years and has a Rose Bowl, conference title, and 2 BCS games ... they aren’t firing him any time soonRaceBannon said:Helton has one more year. USC may fuck up the hires but they fire fast
The sneaking in element for him is ideal for UW -
Yes they are
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The Pirate may be insane but he clearly works.
Meanwhile, UCLA is still where Blue Chips go to become Charmin soft.
Oh and water is wet. -
Leach is one of the best at getting good results out of sub-standard raw materials. No way to say whether he could get great results out of better raw materials, because he has never had the chance to prove it.DoogCourics said:
The Pirate may be insane but he clearly works.
Meanwhile, UCLA is still where Blue Chips go to become Charmin soft.
Oh and water is wet.
Oklahoma won a MNC using the Air Raid, but it was a year after Leach left and the Air Raid was still relatively new and different back then. -
I was surprised that USC didn't fire Helton on the 50 after the bowl game loss.





