Follow up to my tweet on P12 recruiting vs. NFL Draft
1st/2nd Round NFL Draft Picks over past 5 Seasons (with avg conf recruiting rank; avg 247 rating, 5* signed, 4* signed).
1. Washington - 12 (5.9; 85.2; 1, 38)
2. USC - 9 (1.3; 92.3; 20, 92)
3. UCLA - 8 (3.0; 88.6; 6, 78)
4. Stanford - 6 (5.1; 87.6; 3, 45)
5. Oregon - 4 (3.9; 87.4; 5, 57)
5. Utah - 4 (8.8; 84.2; 0, 12)
7. Colorado - 3 (9.4; 83.2; 1, 13)
8. WSU - 1 (10.6; 82.2; 0, 3)
9. OSU - 1 (9.8; 83.2; 1, 5)
10. ASU - 1 (6.0; 85.2; 1, 29)
11. Cal - 1 (6.1; 86.2; 1, 42)
12. Arizona - 0 (8.3; 84.0; 0, 17)
So for ratios...
UW had a 1st/2nd rounder for every 3.25 blue chips.
USC - 12.4
UCLA - 10.5
Stanford - 8
Oregon - 15.5
Utah - 3
Colorado - 4.7
WSU - 3
OSU - 6
ASU - 30
Cal - 43
Arizona - Div/0 error
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Whittingham shining through again. 4 out of 12.Dennis_DeYoung said:This is for the 8 years from 2008-2015 that could have produced draft eligible players for these drafts.
1st/2nd Round NFL Draft Picks over past 5 Seasons (with avg conf recruiting rank; avg 247 rating, 5* signed, 4* signed).
1. Washington - 12 (5.9; 85.2; 1, 38)
2. USC - 9 (1.3; 92.3; 20, 92)
3. UCLA - 8 (3.0; 88.6; 6, 78)
4. Stanford - 6 (5.1; 87.6; 3, 45)
5. Oregon - 4 (3.9; 87.4; 5, 57)
5. Utah - 4 (8.8; 84.2; 0, 12)
7. Colorado - 3 (9.4; 83.2; 1, 13)
8. WSU - 1 (10.6; 82.2; 0, 3)
9. OSU - 1 (9.8; 83.2; 1, 5)
10. ASU - 1 (6.0; 85.2; 1, 29)
11. Cal - 1 (6.1; 86.2; 1, 42)
12. Arizona - 0 (8.3; 84.0; 0, 17)
So for ratios...
UW had a 1st/2nd rounder for every 3.25 blue chips.
USC - 12.4
UCLA - 10.5
Stanford - 8
Oregon - 15.5
Utah - 3
Colorado - 4.7
WSU - 3
OSU - 6
ASU - 30
Cal - 43
Arizona - Div/0 error
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DDY did roaddawg very the maff
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An important implication here is that, while USC, Stanford and UCLA’s recruiting are likely to stay the same, ours is on a major upswing.
We have signed 27 blue chips in the past 3 years (as compared with 9 the prior 2). If we maintain even a similar ratio, and sign around 10 blue chips per year, we should be pumping out 3-4 top-2 round picks per year for the foreseeable future.
Next year Trey, Taylor, Byron and Jordan Miller have a real chance in the top 2 rounds IMO.
If we simply keep recruiting at the level we had last year we are going to own the conference (if we can ever sign a fucking BUCK).
Also, it’s my firm belief that if Pete makes some adjustments in recruiting we could start signing classes with 3-4 more BC players on average (basically landing us somewhere between Oregon and UCLA).
Vita and Dante were both 3 Stars. Dissly and Azeem were 2s, Kei was a 3. Lavon would’ve been a 3 on this metric. -
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Along with potentially having 4 players taken in the top 2 rounds (please have good medicals Miller and Murphy), we? also will see McGary, Gaskin, and Gaines taken in the mid-late rounds. That would put us? at 7 players taken overall, which would have tied us for second in this draft (Bama #1 with 12 lol, OSU, LSU, & NC State tied for #2 w/7). There's also Jojo, Jaylen Johnson, and Levi that could improve their stock with a big year.
We? saw Lake and other coaches tweeting about developing NFL players. Recruits have started to notice. Wait until next year when we have 7 players taken, and hopefully 4 in the first 2 rounds. It will make a big difference and recruits from outside of Washington will notice (we hate WA recruits anyways).
I've seen Eason's name pop up a few times. That would be hilarious. Transfers to UW only to declare before playing a game and leaving us with Haener in 2019. -
The USC data is super damning and will only get worse under Helton
Did anybody else catch the coaching dig during the draft when talking about how Darnold showed minimal improvement from Year 1 and 2 and how much he will be coached up quickly at the NFL level? -
McGary will go higher than people think...the guy is freaky athletic.
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I like this and it gives me a massive doog boner.
I am curious about the 2nd round delineation though. Either way it will be interesting, but the data could be totally different if that moves to the 3rd round, or 5th, or the whole draft, etc.
And no, I'm not going to do the work myself cause fuck that. -
Agreed, fun with selective endpoints for surewhlinder said:I like this and it gives me a massive doog boner.
I am curious about the 2nd round delineation though. Either way it will be interesting, but the data could be totally different if that moves to the 3rd round, or 5th, or the whole draft, etc.
And no, I'm not going to do the work myself cause fuck that. -
You think Helton's worse at developing players than Sark/Kiffen?Tequilla said:The USC data is super damning and will only get worse under Helton
Did anybody else catch the coaching dig during the draft when talking about how Darnold showed minimal improvement from Year 1 and 2 and how much he will be coached up quickly at the NFL level?
