Do not fire Mueller

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

DerekJohnson said:

It's even possible that Mueller doesn't believe any of this, but the Dems are forcing him to keep on the attack until they can get something on Trump. That's what I suspect happened with Comey.

Of all the tin foil hat theories, I believe those two the least.

So you're thinking the guy who is widely blamed for fucking Hillary's campaign somehow folded under D pressure to harass Trump for shit he didn't think was there, and continued doing so even though he got unmercifully beat up in the process?

Sure. Sounds plausible.

Comey saved Hillary's ample ass in the first place. The late dodge didn't hurt her, it gave her another chance to say she was clean as mud. The investigation was a sham and a mockery. There is so much evidence they had to do some fancy footwork to avoid being so obvious even hondo would see it

Comey is a hero of the left. He took his orders from Lynch who took them from Obama and Bubba

Hmm, not at all consistent with what I read about Comey from a variety of sources.

The harshest criticism I've read and heard about him is that he's a bit of an enthusiastic eagle scout. Some of this was recently written about in the NYT, but I know you think that's the National Enquirer so it doesn't count. At any rate, he's got a rep as the kid who obnoxiously follows rules, likes to tattle and likes everyone to know he never breaks the rules. This is a rep that apparently follows him all the way back to William & Mary, which just won't do.

Comey absolutely skull fucked Hillary with his timing. The size of her ass is not relevant, because Trump's is even fatter, which is embarrassing, because at least in her defense, some guys like to hit the big stuff. No chick on the planet wants a man with a fat ass. But I digress ... the timing was horrible. Sure, she didn't lose votes from the bananas on the right who think women ought to be more like Melania - locked up at home, deaf, dumb and mute - and not uppity like Michelle. Plus, Benghazi! Those people can barely read anyway, and were voting for this guy because of the red hats.

What she lost, in my modest estimation, was the moderate vote because it painted her as reckless and incompetent ... it also probably lent some credibility to "but Benghazi!". Jesus. If Troomp's worst error in judgment is no worse than servergate, he'll be just fine.

More on bad timing: On 28 October, only 11 days before the election, Comey sent a terse and vague letter to members of Congress revealing that new emails had been discovered relating to the previously closed Clinton investigation.

A media frenzy ensued, as did false reports that an indictment was forthcoming. A visibly frustrated Clinton addressed the cameras that same evening, demanding that Comey provide more details so as to lift the cloud of suspicion he had once more cast upon her candidacy. Days later, Comey cleared Clinton’s name once more. The emails, it turned out, were mostly personal, or duplicates of what the FBI had previously examined. But the damage had been done, according to several polls that marked a dramatic shift among undecided voters who swung toward Trump.

Even Trump held him up as a hero at this point in time. Says a lot.

Lastly, the bolded portion of your soliloquy is what makes me think you've abandoned independent reasoning.

The story of the "discovered" emails was going to break. Comey got in front of it and then said ok all good nothing here.

If you don't see the corrupt way the DOJ and the FBI handled HIllary we have nothing further to discuss. Agree to disagree

Unlike hondo I respect you and know you aren't a retarded lying shill

Don't care what you think about me.

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

DerekJohnson said:

It's even possible that Mueller doesn't believe any of this, but the Dems are forcing him to keep on the attack until they can get something on Trump. That's what I suspect happened with Comey.

Of all the tin foil hat theories, I believe those two the least.

So you're thinking the guy who is widely blamed for fucking Hillary's campaign somehow folded under D pressure to harass Trump for shit he didn't think was there, and continued doing so even though he got unmercifully beat up in the process?

Sure. Sounds plausible.

Comey saved Hillary's ample ass in the first place. The late dodge didn't hurt her, it gave her another chance to say she was clean as mud. The investigation was a sham and a mockery. There is so much evidence they had to do some fancy footwork to avoid being so obvious even hondo would see it

Comey is a hero of the left. He took his orders from Lynch who took them from Obama and Bubba

Hmm, not at all consistent with what I read about Comey from a variety of sources.

The harshest criticism I've read and heard about him is that he's a bit of an enthusiastic eagle scout. Some of this was recently written about in the NYT, but I know you think that's the National Enquirer so it doesn't count. At any rate, he's got a rep as the kid who obnoxiously follows rules, likes to tattle and likes everyone to know he never breaks the rules. This is a rep that apparently follows him all the way back to William & Mary, which just won't do.

Comey absolutely skull fucked Hillary with his timing. The size of her ass is not relevant, because Trump's is even fatter, which is embarrassing, because at least in her defense, some guys like to hit the big stuff. No chick on the planet wants a man with a fat ass. But I digress ... the timing was horrible. Sure, she didn't lose votes from the bananas on the right who think women ought to be more like Melania - locked up at home, deaf, dumb and mute - and not uppity like Michelle. Plus, Benghazi! Those people can barely read anyway, and were voting for this guy because of the red hats.

What she lost, in my modest estimation, was the moderate vote because it painted her as reckless and incompetent ... it also probably lent some credibility to "but Benghazi!". Jesus. If Troomp's worst error in judgment is no worse than servergate, he'll be just fine.

More on bad timing: On 28 October, only 11 days before the election, Comey sent a terse and vague letter to members of Congress revealing that new emails had been discovered relating to the previously closed Clinton investigation.

A media frenzy ensued, as did false reports that an indictment was forthcoming. A visibly frustrated Clinton addressed the cameras that same evening, demanding that Comey provide more details so as to lift the cloud of suspicion he had once more cast upon her candidacy. Days later, Comey cleared Clinton’s name once more. The emails, it turned out, were mostly personal, or duplicates of what the FBI had previously examined. But the damage had been done, according to several polls that marked a dramatic shift among undecided voters who swung toward Trump.

Even Trump held him up as a hero at this point in time. Says a lot.

Lastly, the bolded portion of your soliloquy is what makes me think you've abandoned independent reasoning.

The story of the "discovered" emails was going to break. Comey got in front of it and then said ok all good nothing here.

If you don't see the corrupt way the DOJ and the FBI handled HIllary we have nothing further to discuss. Agree to disagree

Unlike hondo I respect you and know you aren't a retarded lying shill

Don't care what you think about me.

Maybe that's right. I don't know. And I also honestly don't know Comey's politics. Maybe all that time in Westport (not our Westport, the one with all the hedge fund guys) libbed him up a bit. Law enforcement types typically aren't card carrying commies, but I've come to learn in life that relying on assumptions is a fool's errand.

The part I do believe and hold on to is that what did Hillary in was losing a %, whatever it was, of the moderate vote. That empirically happened, though it was largely her own doing, since she made the original mess. But still ... timing was bad, and by then, the "oh, those were dupes" or whatever his apology was couldn't unring the bell. Of course, it's harder (lol) in her case because she has a past.

I'll leave the Comey thing at this: the MOST I can say about that guy is that he's unpredictable and I wouldn't want to have to count on him.

Respect goes both ways homie. We homies, always and forever.

Hug it out?

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

BennyBeaver said:

Collusion is not a crime anyway.

Sledog graduated Order of the Coif from Shitsville State University School of Law. He's pretending like me now.

So legal eagle isn't it true that normally there is a crime committed and then one looks for a suspect? I have never seen an investigation where you have a suspect but no chargeable crime and you then investigate the suspect for anything with no limit on scope and no statute of limitations until you find one. Sounds like it should maybe be an investigation in Russia or China or something.

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

BennyBeaver said:

Collusion is not a crime anyway.

Sledog graduated Order of the Coif from Shitsville State University School of Law. He's pretending like me now.

So legal eagle isn't it true that normally there is a crime committed and then one looks for a suspect? I have never seen an investigation where you have a suspect but no chargeable crime and you then investigate the suspect for anything with no limit on scope and no statute of limitations until you find one. Sounds like it should maybe be an investigation in Russia or China or something.

Huh?

So, where you live, the authorities don't normally investigate on tips or other evidence that the law is, perhaps, being broken?

> You watch too much T.V.

> Statute of limitations does not mean what I suspect you think it means.

You should more often hit the "Preview" button on the bottom right hand side of the box. Wait 15 minutes or so, and if it still makes sense, go ahead and hit the "Post Comment" button. But do try and re-read your thoughts more often, because honestly 99% of it is straight up shit nonsense. I know young children who can reason more critically than you.

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

BennyBeaver said:

Collusion is not a crime anyway.

Sledog graduated Order of the Coif from Shitsville State University School of Law. He's pretending like me now.

So legal eagle isn't it true that normally there is a crime committed and then one looks for a suspect? I have never seen an investigation where you have a suspect but no chargeable crime and you then investigate the suspect for anything with no limit on scope and no statute of limitations until you find one. Sounds like it should maybe be an investigation in Russia or China or something.

Huh?

So, where you live, the authorities don't normally investigate on tips or other evidence that the law is, perhaps, being broken?

> You watch too much T.V.

> Statute of limitations does not mean what I suspect you think it means.

You should more often hit the "Preview" button on the bottom right hand side of the box. Wait 15 minutes or so, and if it still makes sense, go ahead and hit the "Post Comment" button. But do try and re-read your thoughts more often, because honestly 99% of it is straight up shit nonsense. I know young children who can reason more critically than you.

We aren't talking quite normal here. We're talking about the president of the United States. We're also talking about a "tip" that was faked and the powers that be knew it. HTH

I think even the resident Trump guys would advise you to LIPO just a little before sticking your neck out too far with conjecture. That warrant got through a lot of conservative nets. There is also a piece by a WP guy who explains the privilege issue, and what it takes to breach it, along with the steps required to take the investigation in a new direction. IOW, a lot of people had to sign off. If the whole lot of them is corrupt, then so be it. I just don't know that.

Like I said, I genuinely hope it's nothing-to-see-here, because no good will come from it. But I'm not betting the house. All indications are that Cohen was the Trump's dirty deeds lawyer, which could include more than stormy $$. He uses the Ivy League guys for the up and up deals. Cohen seems like the hungry guy who couldn't get hired at Cravath and would do "other" shit for him.

If there's no there there, then great. We shall see.

Judges to sign warrants is very much like shopping for hookers. Easy to find one's with certain traits. Anti-Trump would be like shopping for a blow job.

People like you start with the conclusion you want, and you work your way backwards. When you make up your mind about someone, that person could skull fuck your mother right in front of your face, and you'd be able to talk yourself into thinking it didn't happen in 5 minutes. That's fine; I don't really care, but I don't have that skill. I just know what I know, and that is, in this case, that I don't know, and neither do you.

If you bother to go look at the agencies and principals involved in the clearance process, you will see that, at the very least, it's not a liberal lynch mob. But that won't matter.

As I said, I am hopeful for the country's sake that there isn't some resulting actual shit show from all of this, but I wouldn't be shocked if there were.

RaceBannon said:

You people?