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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    i saw this one

    with samuel l jackson
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,058 Founders Club
    Maybe hiring hit men isn't the answer but highly trained ex military who need jobs could be
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066

    Maybe hiring hit men isn't the answer but highly trained ex military who need jobs could be
    Armed guards at schools makes eminent sense. And, if I'm not mistaken, the Gun Free Zones legislation needn't be amended to accommodate that approach, so you don't have to go to Congress for that.

    I assume this is also not a big deal for school budgets.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,058 Founders Club
    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,790 Swaye's Wigwam
    the stay out zone better not be symbolic - have I kept away from Drug Free Zones for years for naught?
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    Maybe hiring hit men isn't the answer but highly trained ex military who need jobs could be

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Come on now. Mr. Hand packing a big ol' hog leg .44 would have been tuff.


    Funny you say that. As I was typing my Tequilla response, Mr. Hand came to mind too.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Come on now. Mr. Hand packing a big ol' hog leg .44 would have been tuff.


    Funny you say that. As I was typing my Tequilla response, Mr. Hand came to mind too.
    brb jo
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,103


    Louanne Johnson didn't need no guns to calm the hood rats...err, students.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,817 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2018

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    More Liberal insanity

    http://s.oregonlive.com/qLpJHyU

    The media and left is busting the Police’s balls for continuing to track gang members and affiliates.

    Meanwhile.

    http://katu.com/news/local/portland-police-investigate-4th-gang-related-shooting-in-24-hours
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,817 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2018
    Why track criminals? Heck it's not like anyone tracked the mafia.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,477 Founders Club



    Louanne Johnson didn't need no guns to calm the hood rats...err, students.

    I never did buy Michelle Pfieffer as a toughie
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066
    Sledog said:

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
    Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066



    Louanne Johnson didn't need no guns to calm the hood rats...err, students.

    I never did buy Michelle Pfieffer as a toughie
    I bought, and would today buy, Michelle Pfieffer any fucking way she wants to be bought.

    Don't be a ghey Derek.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,103
    One of the true injustices in this world is that Michelle Pfieffer chose not to go the nude route in her acting roles.

    THAT would have made Scarface essentially perfect as a movie.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,817 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
    Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.
    You are not worth the time it takes to hit more keys. I hate typing. HTH
  • Baphomet
    Baphomet Member Posts: 1,511
    edited March 2018

    Maybe hiring hit men isn't the answer but highly trained ex military who need jobs could be
    I had a short stint in the army. Qualified as hawkeye in targets. Also got 300 on the PT test. Graduated from medic school.

    I don't really "need a job", but I think I'd enjoy walking around a school with a weapon as the armed guard. Bonus if they let me wear a Jerry Garcia tank top and smoke pot during my breaks.

    When can I start?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
    Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.
    You are not worth the time it takes to hit more keys take an ESL class. I hate typing. I also like to blame this damn phone! HTH
    I get it. Being poor, uneducated and stupid takes up a lot of time.

    Actually, no I don't get it. I'm none of those things.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,817 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2018

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
    Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.
    You are not worth the time it takes to hit more keys take an ESL class. I hate typing. I also like to blame this damn phone! HTH
    I get it. Being poor, uneducated and stupid takes up a lot of time.

    Actually, no I don't get it. I'm none of those things.
    Yes you're rich educated and successful. For a Cuog. So you work at the big gas station?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
    Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.
    You are not worth the time it takes to hit more keys take an ESL class. I hate typing. I also like to blame this damn phone! HTH
    I get it. Being poor, uneducated and stupid takes up a lot of time.

    Actually, no I don't get it. I'm none of those things.
    Yes you're rich educated and successful. For a Cuog. So you work at the big gas station?
    You write 6 figure checks to the IRS. So you are rich bitch.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,817 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
    Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.
    You are not worth the time it takes to hit more keys take an ESL class. I hate typing. I also like to blame this damn phone! HTH
    I get it. Being poor, uneducated and stupid takes up a lot of time.

    Actually, no I don't get it. I'm none of those things.
    Yes you're rich educated and successful. For a Cuog. So you work at the big gas station?
    You write 6 figure checks to the IRS. So you are rich bitch.
    Don't consider myself rich Hondo but I am comfortable.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
    Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.
    You are not worth the time it takes to hit more keys take an ESL class. I hate typing. I also like to blame this damn phone! HTH
    I get it. Being poor, uneducated and stupid takes up a lot of time.

    Actually, no I don't get it. I'm none of those things.
    Yes you're rich educated and successful. For a Cuog. So you work at the big gas station?
    You write 6 figure checks to the IRS. So you are rich bitch.
    Don't consider myself rich Hondo but I am comfortable.
    Don't bag on the big gas station worker.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Maybe hiring hit men isn't the answer but highly trained ex military who need jobs could be
    Let's dive into this mythical demographic. Highly trained ex military who need a job.

    I guess I fit into that category once for about a week. The defense business is huge, not huge, UUUUUUGE. It just got $65B richer last week with the appropriations bill.

    Specific training for defense related skills aren't something you can run over to the local CC and get. Because of the complete takeover of omnibus and service contracts under W if your job exists in the military it exists ten fold on the outside.

    I went to college the first time under the Chapter 30 GI Bill which sucked because I had to find a guard unit that would pay my tuition. The new Chapter 33 pays you even more and covers your tuition, books, and fees.

    Long story longer if someone is truly a highly trained veteran there is no fucking way you are getting them to walk around a school for $38k a year. You're worth six figures in your sleep, because we are.

    Non skilled veterans usually become cops which will pay more than being a hall monitor and you can work your way up and have options. Some get into security jobs of start their own security companies. I guess you could contract those to schools, but again it's a dead end job that won't pay shit.

    Like most of your Trump based themes it's just utter nonsense that would end up being awful. The only vets you are getting to take that job are the absolute bottom of the barrel or guys. The screening process would be crazy as well. An example; a close friend of mine was a Chaplain assistant in Afghanistan for a year and when he got back he couldn't get a job with the local police department because of things he'd done over there as a fucking Chaplain's assistant.

    We don't draft people anymore, hand them a rifle for two years, and send them out in the world alone anymore.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,058 Founders Club
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
    Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.
    You are not worth the time it takes to hit more keys take an ESL class. I hate typing. I also like to blame this damn phone! HTH
    I get it. Being poor, uneducated and stupid takes up a lot of time.

    Actually, no I don't get it. I'm none of those things.
    Yes you're rich educated and successful. For a Cuog. So you work at the big gas station?
    *your. this damn phone!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,817 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?

    I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue

    Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.

    I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.

    But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.

    The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.

    Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?

    - Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.

    - Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.

    - Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.

    There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.

    Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.

    I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.

    Easy peasy Japaneasy
    Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.
    Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.
    You are not worth the time it takes to hit more keys take an ESL class. I hate typing. I also like to blame this damn phone! HTH
    I get it. Being poor, uneducated and stupid takes up a lot of time.

    Actually, no I don't get it. I'm none of those things.
    Yes you're rich educated and successful. For a Cuog. So you work at the big gas station?
    *your. this damn phone!
    Thanks for confirming.