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Arming teachers
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Bullshit.Mosster47 said:
Let's dive into this mythical demographic. Highly trained ex military who need a job.RaceBannon said:
Maybe hiring hit men isn't the answer but highly trained ex military who need jobs could becreepycoug said:
What could go wrong?RaceBannon said:foxnews.com/us/2018/03/28/elementary-school-teacher-charged-with-2016-gang-related-murder-2-children.html
Some already are apparently
I guess I fit into that category once for about a week. The defense business is huge, not huge, UUUUUUGE. It just got $65B richer last week with the appropriations bill.
Specific training for defense related skills aren't something you can run over to the local CC and get. Because of the complete takeover of omnibus and service contracts under W if your job exists in the military it exists ten fold on the outside.
I went to college the first time under the Chapter 30 GI Bill which sucked because I had to find a guard unit that would pay my tuition. The new Chapter 33 pays you even more and covers your tuition, books, and fees.
Long story longer if someone is truly a highly trained veteran there is no fucking way you are getting them to walk around a school for $38k a year. You're worth six figures in your sleep, because we are.
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That works tooPurpleThrobber said:
Bullshit.Mosster47 said:
Let's dive into this mythical demographic. Highly trained ex military who need a job.RaceBannon said:
Maybe hiring hit men isn't the answer but highly trained ex military who need jobs could becreepycoug said:
What could go wrong?RaceBannon said:foxnews.com/us/2018/03/28/elementary-school-teacher-charged-with-2016-gang-related-murder-2-children.html
Some already are apparently
I guess I fit into that category once for about a week. The defense business is huge, not huge, UUUUUUGE. It just got $65B richer last week with the appropriations bill.
Specific training for defense related skills aren't something you can run over to the local CC and get. Because of the complete takeover of omnibus and service contracts under W if your job exists in the military it exists ten fold on the outside.
I went to college the first time under the Chapter 30 GI Bill which sucked because I had to find a guard unit that would pay my tuition. The new Chapter 33 pays you even more and covers your tuition, books, and fees.
Long story longer if someone is truly a highly trained veteran there is no fucking way you are getting them to walk around a school for $38k a year. You're worth six figures in your sleep, because we are.
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Most SF military including the SEAL teams sought training outside the government and still do. Those same schools are open to the public at a fairly reasonable cost. Yes, I was there.
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A lot of 6’5” er’s in real life that you wouldn’t want piece of, in this thread.
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They go and take shooter jobs for double or triple of what a hall monitor would make.Sledog said:Most SF military including the SEAL teams sought training outside the government and still do. Those same schools are open to the public at a fairly reasonable cost. Yes, I was there.
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That wasn't the poont. The poont was good training is available with having been in the military and at a reasonable cost.Mosster47 said:
They go and take shooter jobs for double or triple of what a hall monitor would make.Sledog said:Most SF military including the SEAL teams sought training outside the government and still do. Those same schools are open to the public at a fairly reasonable cost. Yes, I was there.
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DerekJohnson said:
I never did buy Michelle Pfieffer as a toughiePurpleThrobber said:
Louanne Johnson didn't need no guns to calm the hood rats...err, students.
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Sure they do. 38k a year, summers off, benefits out the ass, a week off during every holiday plus all the bullshit days off like UEA and arbor day.Mosster47 said:
They go and take shooter jobs for double or triple of what a hall monitor would make.Sledog said:Most SF military including the SEAL teams sought training outside the government and still do. Those same schools are open to the public at a fairly reasonable cost. Yes, I was there.
Highly trained people don't take bullshit jobs.
I think there are plenty of highly trained, 100k value people who would do this. Take the guy with military experience, may or may not be drawing military retirement, a good dozen or two years crossing the cuntry/globe doing shooter gigs at +100k ... there comes a point where taking 38k and playing with your grandkids, enjoying your paid for home(s), boat, cabin, weekends off becomes a high priority.
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I wasn't! I was congratulating him on being a successful Cuog.2001400ex said:
Don't bag on the big gas station worker.Sledog said:
Don't consider myself rich Hondo but I am comfortable.2001400ex said:
You write 6 figure checks to the IRS. So you are rich bitch.Sledog said:
Yes you're rich educated and successful. For a Cuog. So you work at the big gas station?creepycoug said:
I get it. Being poor, uneducated and stupid takes up a lot of time.Sledog said:
You are not worth the time it takes tocreepycoug said:
Grammar and punctuation really are not that underrated. The guy who makes my tacos in a truck has a better command of the Engrish.Sledog said:
Your a petpretend attorney unless your a DA you don't have any cop friends. In Cali a cop is considered on duty 24/7.creepycoug said:
Of all the political rhetoric I've seen these days - and like everyone I've seen a lot - one of the more head scratchers was the Gun Free Zone stuff.RaceBannon said:Stephen Wright would ask how can you enforce a gun free zone without a gun?
I always thought the law was symbolic more than anything. Shouldn't be an issue
I think the idea is that if you're caught with a gun within some radius of a school, the judgments get worse. The rhetoric, of course, is that bad guys don't obey the law and nobody obeying the law will be armed to deal with them. Alright.
But the law exempts, I think, police. Off-duty and retired are, I think, not exempt, and that was probably an unintended consequence of statute drafting - don't know.
The main idea is obvious, and then you don't have that exposure if there are armed people there to deal with a threat.
Arming teachers and random other school officials - sorry, I've been a pretend lawyer too fucking long and know better. What could go wrong?
- Johnny Football Player on a bad meth trip gets the gun out of Mrs. McEnhenny's hands and shoots someone.
- Mrs. Johnson forgets to lock her drawer one recess and Mikey and Bobby go snooping around and accidentally fire off a round and kill the janitor.
- Mr. Smith, a nice shop teacher, thinks he's a Solider of Fortune guy until the shit hits the fan and we find out he's better suited to the wood planer than dealing with a maniac and winds up shooting someone else.
There are no guarantees in life. I know that. But I like my chances better with a trained person who takes his job seriously and routinely practices shooting.
Maintaining possession of a gun safely, and shooting it well under pressure, are not as simple and as straightforward as people think. At least that's what my pretend-cop friends tell me.
I want my kid's math teacher focusing on teaching them math. That's what they decided to be good at. Let them be that, and hire someone who wants to guard human life.
Easy peasy Japaneasyhit more keystake an ESL class.I hate typing.I also like to blame this damn phone! HTH
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Those guys are getting their pension, have appealed their way to at least 70% from the VA, and are on easy street.89ute said:
Sure they do. 38k a year, summers off, benefits out the ass, a week off during every holiday plus all the bullshit days off like UEA and arbor day.Mosster47 said:
They go and take shooter jobs for double or triple of what a hall monitor would make.Sledog said:Most SF military including the SEAL teams sought training outside the government and still do. Those same schools are open to the public at a fairly reasonable cost. Yes, I was there.
Highly trained people don't take bullshit jobs.
I think there are plenty of highly trained, 100k value people who would do this. Take the guy with military experience, may or may not be drawing military retirement, a good dozen or two years crossing the cuntry/globe doing shooter gigs at +100k ... there comes a point where taking 38k and playing with your grandkids, enjoying your paid for home(s), boat, cabin, weekends off becomes a high priority.
True @Swaye?
Why have a taxable income?
