Jerry Brown declares WAR on America

YellowSnow said:

Someone finally found a picture of Sled, OBK and Doogie.

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

WilburHooksHands said:

RaceBannon said:

WilburHooksHands said:

RaceBannon said:

https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF

This was the first article that came up

The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.

It may take it again

It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law

Its a majority position on paper

I agree with you that the optics could be problematic

although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.

COPS

That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans

I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control

That's why Trump is president today

Drag this out and watch it happen again

The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.

Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?

Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.

What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”

Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruse

The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want

That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.

People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.

Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.

I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen

Why do you think I care about beating trump?

Like it or not, California is going its own way and trump will ultimately be powerless to stop it. It’s inevitable unless he compromises, or gives up. All the same to me. Whether he’s in office or not.

Are you going to tow Kali out to sea with your 5.9 Cummings? Oh the feds have ships and aircraft. Time for a new plan.

Maybe the poont, Tom Clancy, is that nobody is going to do that. I'm sure it would make for a good crappy movie though.

Race makes a good point about Wallace and Alabama. But then again, Alabama is a flea on a dog's ass, and they were clearly on the wrong side of history. This issue is legitimately more debatable all around the union. Plus, in the words of Ron Burgundy, California is kind of a big deal. It has more political muscle than the entire southeastern US, save Florida. Said another way, it's easier to tell the poor white trash states to quit misbehaving. California is another matter altogether.

We can all talk tuff about it, but he's not going to push Cali around. Right or wrong, preemption or no preemption. Cali going its own way too far off the rez (sorry swaye) is a much larger matter than this administration will bit off. Trump won't even be alive by the time that comes to a head, if it ever does.

This federalism thing turned out to be harder than I thought. It's hard.

If you were there support for segregation was still extremely high in the 50's when Brown V came down and not just in the south

That's why it took troops and why Ike and JFK had such a struggle to do the right thing

Regardless of whether enforcing the borders and our laws is popular or not (it is) states don't get to obstruct justice. its a horrible precedent.

Fix the fucking problem. Even the Dreamers know Schumer is using them for the fall campaign

I don't disagree; I really don't. From a safety standpoint alone, we need to know who is coming in and from where. Absolutely stipulated.

The only issue I've ever taken with the excessive zeal I find out there on this issue is that (and you're not going to like this) it's been hijacked by a bunch of pussy bigots who don't want to own their shit. Yeah, I know, if everything is racism ... but sometimes, it is.

Their passion for this one issue has little to do with their stated concerns, and more to do with xenophobic fears about "our"? culture being diluted and co-opted by "other people." I am by marriage related to a lot of these people. The shit they believe is fucking staggering in its stupidity.

Again, none of that is to say that we shouldn't control our borders. But it's annoying as fuck when you know deep down what the other guy's real motivation happens to be. I didn't just fall off the watermelon wagon. (ISAFNFRS)

Or border has been wide open for the a long time. It's ledto far too many coming in and staying. Time to go home. Time to shut it down and control it.

California democrats and democrats in general only wasn't to make them legal for voting purposes any one says different is lying.

The Oakland mayor needs little time in the gray bar hotel for obstruction.

Whatever you say Cletus.

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

WilburHooksHands said:

RaceBannon said:

WilburHooksHands said:

RaceBannon said:

https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF

This was the first article that came up

The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.

It may take it again

It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law

Its a majority position on paper

I agree with you that the optics could be problematic

although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.

COPS

That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans

I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control

That's why Trump is president today

Drag this out and watch it happen again

The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.

Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?

Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.

What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”

Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruse

The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want

That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.

People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.

Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.

I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen

Why do you think I care about beating trump?

Like it or not, California is going its own way and trump will ultimately be powerless to stop it. It’s inevitable unless he compromises, or gives up. All the same to me. Whether he’s in office or not.

Are you going to tow Kali out to sea with your 5.9 Cummings? Oh the feds have ships and aircraft. Time for a new plan.

Maybe the poont, Tom Clancy, is that nobody is going to do that. I'm sure it would make for a good crappy movie though.

Race makes a good point about Wallace and Alabama. But then again, Alabama is a flea on a dog's ass, and they were clearly on the wrong side of history. This issue is legitimately more debatable all around the union. Plus, in the words of Ron Burgundy, California is kind of a big deal. It has more political muscle than the entire southeastern US, save Florida. Said another way, it's easier to tell the poor white trash states to quit misbehaving. California is another matter altogether.

We can all talk tuff about it, but he's not going to push Cali around. Right or wrong, preemption or no preemption. Cali going its own way too far off the rez (sorry swaye) is a much larger matter than this administration will bit off. Trump won't even be alive by the time that comes to a head, if it ever does.

This federalism thing turned out to be harder than I thought. It's hard.

If you were there support for segregation was still extremely high in the 50's when Brown V came down and not just in the south

That's why it took troops and why Ike and JFK had such a struggle to do the right thing

Regardless of whether enforcing the borders and our laws is popular or not (it is) states don't get to obstruct justice. its a horrible precedent.

Fix the fucking problem. Even the Dreamers know Schumer is using them for the fall campaign

I don't disagree; I really don't. From a safety standpoint alone, we need to know who is coming in and from where. Absolutely stipulated.

The only issue I've ever taken with the excessive zeal I find out there on this issue is that (and you're not going to like this) it's been hijacked by a bunch of pussy bigots who don't want to own their shit. Yeah, I know, if everything is racism ... but sometimes, it is.

Their passion for this one issue has little to do with their stated concerns, and more to do with xenophobic fears about "our"? culture being diluted and co-opted by "other people." I am by marriage related to a lot of these people. The shit they believe is fucking staggering in its stupidity.

Again, none of that is to say that we shouldn't control our borders. But it's annoying as fuck when you know deep down what the other guy's real motivation happens to be. I didn't just fall off the watermelon wagon. (ISAFNFRS)

Or border has been wide open for the a long time. It's ledto far too many coming in and staying. Time to go home. Time to shut it down and control it.

California democrats and democrats in general only wasn't to make them legal for voting purposes any one says different is lying.

The Oakland mayor needs little time in the gray bar hotel for obstruction.

i don't think anyone here is saying otherwise. and, who cares? why do you keep making this point? do you think Trump actually cares about abortion and guns and the bible?

politics is politics, like water is wet.

A lot of us care about those things out here in America. So yeah it matters. No amnesty boot 'em all! Let them apply like everyone else.

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

WilburHooksHands said:

RaceBannon said:

WilburHooksHands said:

RaceBannon said:

https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF

This was the first article that came up

The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.

It may take it again

It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law

Its a majority position on paper

I agree with you that the optics could be problematic

although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.

COPS

That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans

I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control

That's why Trump is president today

Drag this out and watch it happen again

The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.

Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?

Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.

What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”

Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruse

The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want

That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.

People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.

Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.

I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen

Why do you think I care about beating trump?

Like it or not, California is going its own way and trump will ultimately be powerless to stop it. It’s inevitable unless he compromises, or gives up. All the same to me. Whether he’s in office or not.

Are you going to tow Kali out to sea with your 5.9 Cummings? Oh the feds have ships and aircraft. Time for a new plan.

Maybe the poont, Tom Clancy, is that nobody is going to do that. I'm sure it would make for a good crappy movie though.

Race makes a good point about Wallace and Alabama. But then again, Alabama is a flea on a dog's ass, and they were clearly on the wrong side of history. This issue is legitimately more debatable all around the union. Plus, in the words of Ron Burgundy, California is kind of a big deal. It has more political muscle than the entire southeastern US, save Florida. Said another way, it's easier to tell the poor white trash states to quit misbehaving. California is another matter altogether.

We can all talk tuff about it, but he's not going to push Cali around. Right or wrong, preemption or no preemption. Cali going its own way too far off the rez (sorry swaye) is a much larger matter than this administration will bit off. Trump won't even be alive by the time that comes to a head, if it ever does.

This federalism thing turned out to be harder than I thought. It's hard.

If you were there support for segregation was still extremely high in the 50's when Brown V came down and not just in the south

That's why it took troops and why Ike and JFK had such a struggle to do the right thing

Regardless of whether enforcing the borders and our laws is popular or not (it is) states don't get to obstruct justice. its a horrible precedent.

Fix the fucking problem. Even the Dreamers know Schumer is using them for the fall campaign

I don't disagree; I really don't. From a safety standpoint alone, we need to know who is coming in and from where. Absolutely stipulated.

The only issue I've ever taken with the excessive zeal I find out there on this issue is that (and you're not going to like this) it's been hijacked by a bunch of pussy bigots who don't want to own their shit. Yeah, I know, if everything is racism ... but sometimes, it is.

Their passion for this one issue has little to do with their stated concerns, and more to do with xenophobic fears about "our"? culture being diluted and co-opted by "other people." I am by marriage related to a lot of these people. The shit they believe is fucking staggering in its stupidity.

Again, none of that is to say that we shouldn't control our borders. But it's annoying as fuck when you know deep down what the other guy's real motivation happens to be. I didn't just fall off the watermelon wagon. (ISAFNFRS)

Or border has been wide open for the a long time. It's ledto far too many coming in and staying. Time to go home. Time to shut it down and control it.

California democrats and democrats in general only wasn't to make them legal for voting purposes any one says different is lying.

The Oakland mayor needs little time in the gray bar hotel for obstruction.

i don't think anyone here is saying otherwise. and, who cares? why do you keep making this point? do you think Trump actually cares about abortion and guns and the bible?

politics is politics, like water is wet.

A lot of us care about those things out here in America. So yeah it matters. No amnesty boot 'em all! Let them apply like everyone else.

You seem dense. "who cares" refers to "who cares" about what motivates the democrats. Hence the reference to the made-up shit that motivates conservative politicians. If you had two nickels, I'd bet you both of them that Schumer cares no less about immigrants than Trump cares about redneck hillbilly issues. I guarantfuckingtee you that Manhattan Trump used to, and will again, attend parties and laff his ass at people just. like. you. Bannon is brilliant. Again, so what?

Unfortunately for you, this country is going to be overrun by my kind, and we're going to breed your kind right out of existence. There just aren't enuff Trumps and Bannons, and the originals are likely going to be dead in less than 5 year's time.

I already contributed my dilution factor by taking a pretty blue-eyed and blonde Polack from here and infecting her with all manner of Latino. It's over for that line, and believe me, they are a proud and stubborn band of German/Polack dipshits who've been here longer than my people.

Been going on a while; people like you have been too fucking stupid to notice.

Remember: you're being out-bred 2-1, and you'll likely live to see the results. I'd make some Latino friends pronto!

arriba! arriba!

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

Sledog said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

WilburHooksHands said:

RaceBannon said:

WilburHooksHands said:

RaceBannon said:

https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF

This was the first article that came up

The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.

It may take it again

It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law

Its a majority position on paper

I agree with you that the optics could be problematic

although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.

COPS

That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans

I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control

That's why Trump is president today

Drag this out and watch it happen again

The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.

Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?

Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.

What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”

Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruse

The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want

That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.

People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.

Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.

I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen

Why do you think I care about beating trump?

Like it or not, California is going its own way and trump will ultimately be powerless to stop it. It’s inevitable unless he compromises, or gives up. All the same to me. Whether he’s in office or not.

Are you going to tow Kali out to sea with your 5.9 Cummings? Oh the feds have ships and aircraft. Time for a new plan.

Maybe the poont, Tom Clancy, is that nobody is going to do that. I'm sure it would make for a good crappy movie though.

Race makes a good point about Wallace and Alabama. But then again, Alabama is a flea on a dog's ass, and they were clearly on the wrong side of history. This issue is legitimately more debatable all around the union. Plus, in the words of Ron Burgundy, California is kind of a big deal. It has more political muscle than the entire southeastern US, save Florida. Said another way, it's easier to tell the poor white trash states to quit misbehaving. California is another matter altogether.

We can all talk tuff about it, but he's not going to push Cali around. Right or wrong, preemption or no preemption. Cali going its own way too far off the rez (sorry swaye) is a much larger matter than this administration will bit off. Trump won't even be alive by the time that comes to a head, if it ever does.

This federalism thing turned out to be harder than I thought. It's hard.

If you were there support for segregation was still extremely high in the 50's when Brown V came down and not just in the south

That's why it took troops and why Ike and JFK had such a struggle to do the right thing

Regardless of whether enforcing the borders and our laws is popular or not (it is) states don't get to obstruct justice. its a horrible precedent.

Fix the fucking problem. Even the Dreamers know Schumer is using them for the fall campaign

I don't disagree; I really don't. From a safety standpoint alone, we need to know who is coming in and from where. Absolutely stipulated.

The only issue I've ever taken with the excessive zeal I find out there on this issue is that (and you're not going to like this) it's been hijacked by a bunch of pussy bigots who don't want to own their shit. Yeah, I know, if everything is racism ... but sometimes, it is.

Their passion for this one issue has little to do with their stated concerns, and more to do with xenophobic fears about "our"? culture being diluted and co-opted by "other people." I am by marriage related to a lot of these people. The shit they believe is fucking staggering in its stupidity.

Again, none of that is to say that we shouldn't control our borders. But it's annoying as fuck when you know deep down what the other guy's real motivation happens to be. I didn't just fall off the watermelon wagon. (ISAFNFRS)

Or border has been wide open for the a long time. It's ledto far too many coming in and staying. Time to go home. Time to shut it down and control it.

California democrats and democrats in general only wasn't to make them legal for voting purposes any one says different is lying.

The Oakland mayor needs little time in the gray bar hotel for obstruction.

i don't think anyone here is saying otherwise. and, who cares? why do you keep making this point? do you think Trump actually cares about abortion and guns and the bible?

politics is politics, like water is wet.

A lot of us care about those things out here in America. So yeah it matters. No amnesty boot 'em all! Let them apply like everyone else.

Sounds like you care Jethro.

California is justly providing the de facto amnesty.

There will be bureaucracy involved, there always is, but no applications. HTH.