Jerry Brown declares WAR on America
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Are you going to tow Kali out to sea with your 5.9 Cummings? Oh the feds have ships and aircraft. Time for a new plan.CirrhosisDawg said:
Why do you think I care about beating trump?RaceBannon said:
Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruseCirrhosisDawg said:
The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.RaceBannon said:
COPSWilburHooksHands said:
A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.RaceBannon said:
Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal lawWilburHooksHands said:
It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.RaceBannon said:https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
This was the first article that came up
The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
It may take it again


Its a majority position on paper
I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk
That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans
I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control
That's why Trump is president today
Drag this out and watch it happen again
Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?
Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.
What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”
The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want
That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.
People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.
Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.
I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen
Like it or not, California is going its own way and trump will ultimately be powerless to stop it. It’s inevitable unless he compromises, or gives up. All the same to me. Whether he’s in office or not. -
NMTE.Sledog said:
Are you going to tow Kali out to sea with your 5.9 Cummings? Oh the feds have ships and aircraft. Time for a new plan.CirrhosisDawg said:
Why do you think I care about beating trump?RaceBannon said:
Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruseCirrhosisDawg said:
The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.RaceBannon said:
COPSWilburHooksHands said:
A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.RaceBannon said:
Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal lawWilburHooksHands said:
It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.RaceBannon said:https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
This was the first article that came up
The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
It may take it again


Its a majority position on paper
I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk
That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans
I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control
That's why Trump is president today
Drag this out and watch it happen again
Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?
Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.
What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”
The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want
That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.
People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.
Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.
I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen
Like it or not, California is going its own way and trump will ultimately be powerless to stop it. It’s inevitable unless he compromises, or gives up. All the same to me. Whether he’s in office or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYpR_YnkIjI
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Maybe the poont, Tom Clancy, is that nobody is going to do that. I'm sure it would make for a good crappy movie though.Sledog said:
Are you going to tow Kali out to sea with your 5.9 Cummings? Oh the feds have ships and aircraft. Time for a new plan.CirrhosisDawg said:
Why do you think I care about beating trump?RaceBannon said:
Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruseCirrhosisDawg said:
The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.RaceBannon said:
COPSWilburHooksHands said:
A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.RaceBannon said:
Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal lawWilburHooksHands said:
It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.RaceBannon said:https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
This was the first article that came up
The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
It may take it again


Its a majority position on paper
I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk
That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans
I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control
That's why Trump is president today
Drag this out and watch it happen again
Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?
Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.
What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”
The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want
That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.
People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.
Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.
I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen
Like it or not, California is going its own way and trump will ultimately be powerless to stop it. It’s inevitable unless he compromises, or gives up. All the same to me. Whether he’s in office or not.
Race makes a good point about Wallace and Alabama. But then again, Alabama is a flea on a dog's ass, and they were clearly on the wrong side of history. This issue is legitimately more debatable all around the union. Plus, in the words of Ron Burgundy, California is kind of a big deal. It has more political muscle than the entire southeastern US, save Florida. Said another way, it's easier to tell the poor white trash states to quit misbehaving. California is another matter altogether.
We can all talk tuff about it, but he's not going to push Cali around. Right or wrong, preemption or no preemption. Cali going its own way too far off the rez (sorry swaye) is a much larger matter than this administration will bit off. Trump won't even be alive by the time that comes to a head, if it ever does.
This federalism thing turned out to be harder than I thought. It's hard. -
Yeah and the Woolly Mammoths felt the same way about the ancient Swayes that crossed over the land bridge.Swaye said:All of you are illegals to me. GTFO!

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If you were there support for segregation was still extremely high in the 50's when Brown V came down and not just in the southcreepycoug said:
Maybe the poont, Tom Clancy, is that nobody is going to do that. I'm sure it would make for a good crappy movie though.Sledog said:
Are you going to tow Kali out to sea with your 5.9 Cummings? Oh the feds have ships and aircraft. Time for a new plan.CirrhosisDawg said:
Why do you think I care about beating trump?RaceBannon said:
Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruseCirrhosisDawg said:
The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.RaceBannon said:
COPSWilburHooksHands said:
A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.RaceBannon said:
Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal lawWilburHooksHands said:
It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.RaceBannon said:https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
This was the first article that came up
The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
It may take it again


Its a majority position on paper
I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk
That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans
I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control
That's why Trump is president today
Drag this out and watch it happen again
Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?
Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.
What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”
The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want
That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.
People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.
Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.
I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen
Like it or not, California is going its own way and trump will ultimately be powerless to stop it. It’s inevitable unless he compromises, or gives up. All the same to me. Whether he’s in office or not.
Race makes a good point about Wallace and Alabama. But then again, Alabama is a flea on a dog's ass, and they were clearly on the wrong side of history. This issue is legitimately more debatable all around the union. Plus, in the words of Ron Burgundy, California is kind of a big deal. It has more political muscle than the entire southeastern US, save Florida. Said another way, it's easier to tell the poor white trash states to quit misbehaving. California is another matter altogether.
We can all talk tuff about it, but he's not going to push Cali around. Right or wrong, preemption or no preemption. Cali going its own way too far off the rez (sorry swaye) is a much larger matter than this administration will bit off. Trump won't even be alive by the time that comes to a head, if it ever does.
This federalism thing turned out to be harder than I thought. It's hard.
That's why it took troops and why Ike and JFK had such a struggle to do the right thing
Regardless of whether enforcing the borders and our laws is popular or not (it is) states don't get to obstruct justice. its a horrible precedent.
Fix the fucking problem. Even the Dreamers know Schumer is using them for the fall campaign -
The fix is right in front of trump. DACA and dreamers stay without condition. Pathway to citizenship and guest workers for the rest. If he wants to waste $25 billion of us taxpayer money in return, that’s up to you trumpanzees.
It’s either that or nothing.
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No deal
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Ok. Sanctuary state it is.RaceBannon said:No deal
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But still...YellowSnow said:
Yeah and the Woolly Mammoths felt the same way about the ancient Swayes that crossed over the land bridge.Swaye said:All of you are illegals to me. GTFO!

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I don't disagree; I really don't. From a safety standpoint alone, we need to know who is coming in and from where. Absolutely stipulated.RaceBannon said:
If you were there support for segregation was still extremely high in the 50's when Brown V came down and not just in the southcreepycoug said:
Maybe the poont, Tom Clancy, is that nobody is going to do that. I'm sure it would make for a good crappy movie though.Sledog said:
Are you going to tow Kali out to sea with your 5.9 Cummings? Oh the feds have ships and aircraft. Time for a new plan.CirrhosisDawg said:
Why do you think I care about beating trump?RaceBannon said:
Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruseCirrhosisDawg said:
The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.RaceBannon said:
COPSWilburHooksHands said:
A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.RaceBannon said:
Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal lawWilburHooksHands said:
It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.RaceBannon said:https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
This was the first article that came up
The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
It may take it again


Its a majority position on paper
I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk
That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans
I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control
That's why Trump is president today
Drag this out and watch it happen again
Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?
Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.
What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”
The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want
That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.
People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.
Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.
I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen
Like it or not, California is going its own way and trump will ultimately be powerless to stop it. It’s inevitable unless he compromises, or gives up. All the same to me. Whether he’s in office or not.
Race makes a good point about Wallace and Alabama. But then again, Alabama is a flea on a dog's ass, and they were clearly on the wrong side of history. This issue is legitimately more debatable all around the union. Plus, in the words of Ron Burgundy, California is kind of a big deal. It has more political muscle than the entire southeastern US, save Florida. Said another way, it's easier to tell the poor white trash states to quit misbehaving. California is another matter altogether.
We can all talk tuff about it, but he's not going to push Cali around. Right or wrong, preemption or no preemption. Cali going its own way too far off the rez (sorry swaye) is a much larger matter than this administration will bit off. Trump won't even be alive by the time that comes to a head, if it ever does.
This federalism thing turned out to be harder than I thought. It's hard.
That's why it took troops and why Ike and JFK had such a struggle to do the right thing
Regardless of whether enforcing the borders and our laws is popular or not (it is) states don't get to obstruct justice. its a horrible precedent.
Fix the fucking problem. Even the Dreamers know Schumer is using them for the fall campaign
The only issue I've ever taken with the excessive zeal I find out there on this issue is that (and you're not going to like this) it's been hijacked by a bunch of pussy bigots who don't want to own their shit. Yeah, I know, if everything is racism ... but sometimes, it is.
Their passion for this one issue has little to do with their stated concerns, and more to do with xenophobic fears about "our"? culture being diluted and co-opted by "other people." I am by marriage related to a lot of these people. The shit they believe is fucking staggering in its stupidity.
Again, none of that is to say that we shouldn't control our borders. But it's annoying as fuck when you know deep down what the other guy's real motivation happens to be. I didn't just fall off the watermelon wagon. (ISAFNFRS)





