Jerry Brown declares WAR on America

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• WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

  March 2018

  Federalism is so 1787.

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• RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,168

  March 2018

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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• WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

  March 2018

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

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• RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,168

  March 2018

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

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• CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

  March 2018

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

  Feds can enforce their own law. They’ll get no help here.

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• doogie Member Posts: 15,072

  March 2018

  Rather than War, wouldn’t it be easier just to change existing law?

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• RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,168

  March 2018

  CirrhosisDawg said:

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

  Feds can enforce their own law. They’ll get no help here.

  Cheap Lawn Care or Death!

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• CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

  March 2018

  doogie said:

  Rather than War, wouldn’t it be easier just to change existing law?

  Sure. Amnesty and pathway to citizenship. It passed the US senate in 2014 and would have passed the House too easily if Ryan allowed a vote. He didn’t.

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• doogie Member Posts: 15,072

  March 2018

  Then the voters voted.
  
  So, back to today, wouldn’t it be easier to negotiate than to start a War with the United States?

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• WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

  March 2018

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

  A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.

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• CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

  March 2018

  RaceBannon said:

  CirrhosisDawg said:

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

  Feds can enforce their own law. They’ll get no help here.

  Cheap Lawn Care or Death!

  Multi-hundred-billion dollar Ag, hospitality and tourism industries. Sixth largest economy in the world.

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• RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,168

  March 2018

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

  A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.

  COPS
  
  That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans
  
  I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control
  
  That's why Trump is president today
  
  Drag this out and watch it happen again

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• doogie Member Posts: 15,072

  March 2018

  Here, Boobs.
  
  https://youtu.be/FFroMQlKiag

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• doogie Member Posts: 15,072

  March 2018

  CirrhosisDawg said:

  RaceBannon said:

  CirrhosisDawg said:

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

  Feds can enforce their own law. They’ll get no help here.

  Cheap Lawn Care or Death!

  Multi-hundred-billion dollar Ag, hospitality and tourism industries. Sixth largest economy in the world.

  I’m hearing War is great for tourism.

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• topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

  March 2018

  CirrhosisDawg said:

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

  Feds can enforce their own law. They’ll get no help here.

  There's a big difference between helping and obstructing.

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• WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

  March 2018

  RaceBannon said:

  I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control

  Agree, but I don't think border rent-a-cops and disregard for private property are the solution.
  

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• CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

  March 2018

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

  A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.

  COPS
  
  That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans
  
  I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control
  
  That's why Trump is president today
  
  Drag this out and watch it happen again

  The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.
  
  Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?
  
  Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.
  
  What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”

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• doogie Member Posts: 15,072

  March 2018

  doogie said:

  Here, Boobs.
  
  https://youtu.be/FFroMQlKiag

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• RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,168

  March 2018

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control

  Agree, but I don't think border rent-a-cops and disregard for private property are the solution.
  

  By gosh I'll take that off the table then!

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• RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,168

  March 2018

  CirrhosisDawg said:

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  RaceBannon said:

  https://reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-immigration/california-governor-says-trump-administration-waging-war-against-state-idUSKCN1GJ2IF
  
  This was the first article that came up
  
  The language of this democrat governor is very reminiscent of the democrat governors in the old south standing in the school door. It took federal troops then to enforce federal law.
  
  It may take it again
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It might, but opposing school integration is a harder stance to defend than trying to keep a federal agency from running roughshod over communities.

  Another way to put that is that states don't get to ignore federal law
  
  Its a majority position on paper
  
  I agree with you that the optics could be problematic
  
  although a lot of folks would like to see the Oakland mayor in a perp walk

  A lot of people who support the majority position on paper still think ICE is a clownshow with a hard-on for their own badges.

  COPS
  
  That's why dudes in suits should perp walk the politicans
  
  I have no complaint with a path or a road or a stream to citizenship for good hard working folks but for fucks sakes we need a border and we need control
  
  That's why Trump is president today
  
  Drag this out and watch it happen again

  The Senate gang of eight or whatever it was had the path/stream/road in it. The trump wing of both parties killed it.
  
  Mexicans in Iowa! Legally! Can you imagine?
  
  Federal immigration law changes are going nowhere right now precisely because of trump obstinance. There are demonstrated majorities for guest workers and a citizenship pathway. It provides transparency and supports the economy.
  
  What I don’t understand is the “keep it up or trump will get re-elected” thing. Is that saying “you better not disparage protectionism and nationalism or we’ll do something stupid and re-elect trump again.”

  Even the cherished DACA kids have seen through the democrats ruse
  
  The deal is on the table waiting to be made. A deal is the last thing the democrats want
  
  That's why they will continue to lose to Trump.
  
  People forget because they hang around here but a majority of Americans like to see the law upheld as long as it doesn't hurt them personally.
  
  Sanctuary cities, open borders, a mayor tipping off criminals - this isn't going to beat Trump. Its why he is here.
  
  I tell you all this comfortable in the knowledge that you won't listen

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