Steel and aluminum tariffs

RedRocket said:

HoustonHusky said:

Sounds grand, but "material" is only about 15% of the total cost of a pipeline...labor is the largest chunk of it, transportation of the pipes, land rights, etc. etc. So a 25% tariff on steel means the actual pipeline costs only go up less than 4%...

A public reference from a couple years ago...
https://www.ogj.com/articles/print/volume-112/issue-9/special-report-pipeline-economics/crude-oil-pipeline-growth-revenues-surge-construction-costs-mount.html

Like I said, the Bloomberg guy was a moron...

Even if I take your numbers at face value a 4% increase on a several hundred million dollar pipeline isn't non trivial. I'm sure you would be happy to eat a 4% increase in your income or property taxes because it's only 4%, right?

The major oil and natural gas trade groups already came out against the tariff. Bloomberg and the other outlets are now just reporting on it. But if HoustoFS says that it's not a big deal then I guess I should just dismiss what the entire industry is saying.

greenblood said:

insinceredawg said:

doogie said:

Had nothing to do with FED dumping assets.

Nothing at all.

Please explain why the tariffs will help this country? This will spark a trade war and the losers will be consumers.

I actually don't mind tariffs. This is essentially a consumption tax. The more imported crap you use, the more you pay.

I kind of wish we just had a national sales tax vs income tax anyway. At least everyone pays for this tax.

topdawgnc said:

dflea said:

Watching toppy hug Houston's nuts is as funny as watching Houston hug Trump's nuts.

I know about tariffs on a macro level, fuckface. I know virtually every economist will say they're stupid and ineffective and only lead to higher prices. Then there's retarded twats like you and Houston who support higher consumer prices because you just gotta wash Trump's balls like the faggot you are.

Gee, let's roll back regulations to save costs - and then implement tariffs.......to raise costs.

You're a fucking retard, toppy.

You're as predictable as a morning shit.

You're knowledge of tariffs is about the same level of understanding, of that I am sure.

Implemented tariffs don't work. However, in negotiations, the threat does work. Of course nothing works if don't have a purpose to threaten the tariff.

I assume, since you are hurling insults and being an Interwebs tuff guy, you now what the larger purpose is and why Trump is doing what he is.

I don't know, or even pretend to know why Trump is doing it. But when the dust settles he'll be held accountable at the ballot box.

You'll spout off and be the tuff guy you are and make fun of Trump.

Just like you did when he ran his campaign that went 18-0 against some of the biggest names in political history.

In the end, you're just a dumb fuck who strokes his meat pretending to be something you're not.

2001400ex said:

Shocking news is shocking.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/paul-ryan-comes-trump-tariffs-172903466.html

topdawgnc said:

dflea said:

Watching toppy hug Houston's nuts is as funny as watching Houston hug Trump's nuts.

I know about tariffs on a macro level, fuckface. I know virtually every economist will say they're stupid and ineffective and only lead to higher prices. Then there's retarded twats like you and Houston who support higher consumer prices because you just gotta wash Trump's balls like the faggot you are.

Gee, let's roll back regulations to save costs - and then implement tariffs.......to raise costs.

You're a fucking retard, toppy.

You're as predictable as a morning shit.

You're knowledge of tariffs is about the same level of understanding, of that I am sure.

Implemented tariffs don't work. However, in negotiations, the threat does work. Of course nothing works if don't have a purpose to threaten the tariff.

I assume, since you are hurling insults and being an Interwebs tuff guy, you now what the larger purpose is and why Trump is doing what he is.

I don't know, or even pretend to know why Trump is doing it. But when the dust settles he'll be held accountable at the ballot box.

You'll spout off and be the tuff guy you are and make fun of Trump.

Just like you did when he ran his campaign that went 18-0 against some of the biggest names in political history.

In the end, you're just a dumb fuck who strokes his meat pretending to be something you're not.

creepycoug said:

topdawgnc said:

dflea said:

Watching toppy hug Houston's nuts is as funny as watching Houston hug Trump's nuts.

I know about tariffs on a macro level, fuckface. I know virtually every economist will say they're stupid and ineffective and only lead to higher prices. Then there's retarded twats like you and Houston who support higher consumer prices because you just gotta wash Trump's balls like the faggot you are.

Gee, let's roll back regulations to save costs - and then implement tariffs.......to raise costs.

You're a fucking retard, toppy.

You're as predictable as a morning shit.

You're knowledge of tariffs is about the same level of understanding, of that I am sure.

Implemented tariffs don't work. However, in negotiations, the threat does work. Of course nothing works if don't have a purpose to threaten the tariff.

I assume, since you are hurling insults and being an Interwebs tuff guy, you now what the larger purpose is and why Trump is doing what he is.

I don't know, or even pretend to know why Trump is doing it. But when the dust settles he'll be held accountable at the ballot box.

You'll spout off and be the tuff guy you are and make fun of Trump.

Just like you did when he ran his campaign that went 18-0 against some of the biggest names in political history.

In the end, you're just a dumb fuck who strokes his meat pretending to be something you're not.

ooohhhh! it's a threat game. I see. All along I thought there were people here who actually believed in protectionist trade policies, what with all of the enthusiastic rationalizations and what not. I guess that's why you're the 'top dawg' topdawg. you just know more shit than the rest of us.

why don't you go back into the hole out of which you just crawled, switch back to your other username, and fuck off.

RaceBannon said:

https://pe.com/2018/03/05/trump-wont-back-down-on-steel-tariffs-after-ryan-rejects-plan/


Trump has used the threat of the tariffs as a negotiating point in talks taking place with Mexico and Canada on Nafta.

Until recently, the U.S. probe into the national security risks of steel and aluminum had been considered separate from the Nafta discussions. But Trump revived his complaints about Nafta being a “bad deal” for the U.S. in tweet on Monday and linked the talks underway in Mexico to the tariffs.

“Tariffs on Steel and Aluminum will only come off if new & fair NAFTA agreement is signed,” Trump tweeted.

Canada, the biggest supplier of steel and aluminum to the U.S., and Mexico, the No. 4 source of steel, have asked to be excluded from the tariffs.

The president’s decision caught the Nafta negotiators off guard, and his intervention may complicate a process that had already been yielding little progress on the most contentious issues.

“I applaud the president for targeting unfairly traded steel and aluminum,” Brady told reporters in Mexico City on Sunday. “But blanket tariffs that also sweep up fairly traded steel and aluminum, especially with trading partners like Canada and Mexico — they should be excluded.”


All the little girls with their panties in a wad naturally assume we? will lose when the fact is we are #winning

Hide and watch

topdawgnc said:

dflea said:

topdawgnc said:

dflea said:

Watching toppy hug Houston's nuts is as funny as watching Houston hug Trump's nuts.

I know about tariffs on a macro level, fuckface. I know virtually every economist will say they're stupid and ineffective and only lead to higher prices. Then there's retarded twats like you and Houston who support higher consumer prices because you just gotta wash Trump's balls like the faggot you are.

Gee, let's roll back regulations to save costs - and then implement tariffs.......to raise costs.

You're a fucking retard, toppy.

You're as predictable as a morning shit.

You're knowledge of tariffs is about the same level of understanding, of that I am sure.

Implemented tariffs don't work. However, in negotiations, the threat does work. Of course nothing works if don't have a purpose to threaten the tariff.

I assume, since you are hurling insults and being an Interwebs tuff guy, you now what the larger purpose is and why Trump is doing what he is.

I don't know, or even pretend to know why Trump is doing it. But when the dust settles he'll be held accountable at the ballot box.

You'll spout off and be the tuff guy you are and make fun of Trump.

Just like you did when he ran his campaign that went 18-0 against some of the biggest names in political history.

In the end, you're just a dumb fuck who strokes his meat pretending to be something you're not.

lol

You're still the same pussy you always were. Are there any men in your kids' lives so they have a role model?

predictable.

topdawgnc said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

topdawgnc said:

dflea said:

Watching toppy hug Houston's nuts is as funny as watching Houston hug Trump's nuts.

I know about tariffs on a macro level, fuckface. I know virtually every economist will say they're stupid and ineffective and only lead to higher prices. Then there's retarded twats like you and Houston who support higher consumer prices because you just gotta wash Trump's balls like the faggot you are.

Gee, let's roll back regulations to save costs - and then implement tariffs.......to raise costs.

You're a fucking retard, toppy.

You're as predictable as a morning shit.

You're knowledge of tariffs is about the same level of understanding, of that I am sure.

Implemented tariffs don't work. However, in negotiations, the threat does work. Of course nothing works if don't have a purpose to threaten the tariff.

I assume, since you are hurling insults and being an Interwebs tuff guy, you now what the larger purpose is and why Trump is doing what he is.

I don't know, or even pretend to know why Trump is doing it. But when the dust settles he'll be held accountable at the ballot box.

You'll spout off and be the tuff guy you are and make fun of Trump.

Just like you did when he ran his campaign that went 18-0 against some of the biggest names in political history.

In the end, you're just a dumb fuck who strokes his meat pretending to be something you're not.

So just make a threat with something that is known to not work. Sounds legit.

The Art of the Deal.

Again.

If you can explain the details of the bigger play. Please do.

Everyone calls Trump a dumb shit ...

But we all seem to be cashing his tax cut, and enjoying the stock market growth.

18-0

topdawgnc said:

creepycoug said:

topdawgnc said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

topdawgnc said:

dflea said:

Watching toppy hug Houston's nuts is as funny as watching Houston hug Trump's nuts.

I know about tariffs on a macro level, fuckface. I know virtually every economist will say they're stupid and ineffective and only lead to higher prices. Then there's retarded twats like you and Houston who support higher consumer prices because you just gotta wash Trump's balls like the faggot you are.

Gee, let's roll back regulations to save costs - and then implement tariffs.......to raise costs.

You're a fucking retard, toppy.

You're as predictable as a morning shit.

You're knowledge of tariffs is about the same level of understanding, of that I am sure.

Implemented tariffs don't work. However, in negotiations, the threat does work. Of course nothing works if don't have a purpose to threaten the tariff.

I assume, since you are hurling insults and being an Interwebs tuff guy, you now what the larger purpose is and why Trump is doing what he is.

I don't know, or even pretend to know why Trump is doing it. But when the dust settles he'll be held accountable at the ballot box.

You'll spout off and be the tuff guy you are and make fun of Trump.

Just like you did when he ran his campaign that went 18-0 against some of the biggest names in political history.

In the end, you're just a dumb fuck who strokes his meat pretending to be something you're not.

So just make a threat with something that is known to not work. Sounds legit.

The Art of the Deal.

Again.

If you can explain the details of the bigger play. Please do.

Everyone calls Trump a dumb shit ...

But we all seem to be cashing his tax cut, and enjoying the stock market growth.

18-0

why don't you? you're the CEO. enlighten us.

As previously stated ...

I couldn't give two fucks.

There are few here, outside of Houston, who understand this on a bigger scale (I know macro confuses you and your butt buddies).

Amused at you and the rest of the donkey's who are mouth breathing over this and all you can say is:

Trump
Higher prices

Now why don't you run along and go play lawyer.