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Rainier Beach / Garfield fallout poses threat to UW future
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Rainier Beach / Garfield fallout poses threat to UW future
Like it or not, Coach Pete needs to contain this brush fire, writes Dennis DeYoung
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RB and Garfield? In football? Damn I’ve been away from Seattle for a long time. How about ingraham?
People forget that Jawann Oldhamm, carl Ervin and Eli carter committed to Seattle U from Cleveland HS. People forget that. -
The formula at UW for the last 40 years, when successful, has been to recruit THE BEST 5-to-10 in state players and raid Oregon, Hawaii, Arizona, and California, etc. for the other 10-to-15 players per class. Show me where Coach Pete has deviated from the proven formula that Coach James employed during his tenure?
Just because a couple inner-city diva HS coaches are bent out of shape is of no real consequence. Parents have more pull than coaches in the recruiting process anyway, and as long as local parents want their sons to play at a world class University in their backyard, for a respected and renowned Coach, and program that wins big; we WILL be just fine.
Playing at the UW is an exclusive deal. End of story. -
I gotta fever and the only prescription is more cowbell
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I trust the coaches.
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This shit hole has a front page?
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2nd thread, several comments. What fucking tweet
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thank you for escalating this to its appropriate level of importance i know for a fact that everyone on the washington staff has to read this site as part of their job so coach peterpan should definitely straighten this out in no time
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Chinned for "coach peterpan"SarkFanSixtyNine said:thank you for escalating this to its appropriate level of importance i know for a fact that everyone on the washington staff has to read this site as part of their job so coach peterpan should definitely straighten this out in no time
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@JamesCliffordDawg, true?CirrhosisDawg said:RB and Garfield? In football? Damn I’ve been away from Seattle for a long time. How about ingraham?
People forget that Jawann Oldhamm, carl Ervin and Eli carter committed to Seattle U from Cleveland HS. People forget that.
is Ingraham still open?
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I feel like Pete has done a great job recruiting the top 10 players in state. Anyone want to post up the last few years, number of top players who came to UW.
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Wasn't Anthony Allen from Garfield?CirrhosisDawg said:RB and Garfield? In football? Damn I’ve been away from Seattle for a long time. How about ingraham?
People forget that Jawann Oldhamm, carl Ervin and Eli carter committed to Seattle U from Cleveland HS. People forget that. -
If these high school coaches don’t start producing Scholarship offers to the schools the Kids want, the Good talent will start listening to other offers and their One-Year renewable coach contracts paying under 10k, might be in jeopardy.
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Jesus Christ. This is so gay.
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someone posted the stats that Pete offers about 70-75 guys per year so an offer actually means something. Bama offers about 275 kids per year so those ceremonial non-committable offers really make bitchy little high school coaches happy?
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Unfortunately they do, those offers are 100% grade A bullshit and the coaches know it, the ADs at the high school know it but the idiot parents, admin, and younger players don’t know it.Meek said:so those ceremonial non-committable offers really make bitchy little high school coaches happy?
At the end of the year the coach gets to put how many different total scholarship offers his team had, total dollar worth of the scholarships and if he loses some games can still point to how many players are playing in college or received div 1 offers.
It’s fucked and meaningless and stupid but coaches and athletic directors use “I had 5 players with SEC offers” to protect themselves from parents and school admin that don’t understand what is actually going on.
Those positions are just as much political as they are competency driven, and a local school offering “your” players scholarships is just another round coaches use to promote and protect themselves.
Example; Under Sark or Ty they could say “I have 7-10 players with offers to UW” now they say they have 2-3... idiot parents and admin see the decrease and assume the coach must be doing something wrong. -
YVBFEHouhusky said:
Unfortunately they do, those offers are 100% grade A bullshit and the coaches know it, the ADs at the high school know it but the idiot parents, admin, and younger players don’t know it.Meek said:so those ceremonial non-committable offers really make bitchy little high school coaches happy?
At the end of the year the coach gets to put how many different total scholarship offers his team had, total dollar worth of the scholarships and if he loses some games can still point to how many players are playing in college or received div 1 offers.
It’s fucked and meaningless and stupid but coaches and athletic directors use “I had 5 players with SEC offers” to protect themselves from parents and school admin that don’t understand what is actually going on.
Those positions are just as much political as they are competency driven, and a local school offering “your” players scholarships is just another round coaches use to promote and protect themselves.
Example; Under Sark or Ty they could say “I have 7-10 players with offers to UW” now they say they have 2-3... idiot parents and admin see the decrease and assume the coach must be doing something wrong. -
Yes, he was. His brother Patrick was also out of Garfield and was pretty good at UW.DerekJohnson said:
Wasn't Anthony Allen from Garfield?CirrhosisDawg said:RB and Garfield? In football? Damn I’ve been away from Seattle for a long time. How about ingraham?
People forget that Jawann Oldhamm, carl Ervin and Eli carter committed to Seattle U from Cleveland HS. People forget that.
Not a lot of Seattle public school talent (excluding O’dea, Blanchet and Seattle Prep) that I’m aware of has made its way to UW football, although there were some really good players in the group. In addition to the Allen brothers from Garfield:
Roosevelt — mark Pattison, tom turnure and Hugh Millen (transfer after Lincoln HS closed)
Ingraham— James Clifford and Greg Lewis.
Franklin— Corey Dillon (I’m sure there are others I’m forgetting)
RB — Nate Robinson
Ballard — a TE in the 1990s whose name I forget.
Probably more but hardly a hotbed of talent historically but maybe that’s changed. -
Ta'amu, RB; Stanback, Garfield; Mario Bailey, Franklin...just a few more off the top off my head.
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And Patrick Allen on my Garfield list went to Utah State, not UW. I don’t remember shit anymore.DawgWagonDan said:Ta'amu, RB; Stanback, Garfield; Mario Bailey, Franklin...just a few more off the top off my head.
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Anthony Allen was old-time Garfield tuff ( >T-town tuff). The new era is 206 Hoops soft. Cowtowing to GHS and RB coaches is RomarFS.DerekJohnson said:
Wasn't Anthony Allen from Garfield?CirrhosisDawg said:RB and Garfield? In football? Damn I’ve been away from Seattle for a long time. How about ingraham?
People forget that Jawann Oldhamm, carl Ervin and Eli carter committed to Seattle U from Cleveland HS. People forget that.
Just win. That overrides every perceived slight.
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DDY is right about this being a perception issue for Pete. The good news is it’s an easy fix for Pete to get out there in front of the coaches and explain his process.
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Wasn’t I forced to wade through this DavidDawg-like all-cap-fest right here in a gay thread yesterday? Front page?
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Precisely THIS.Houhusky said:
Unfortunately they do, those offers are 100% grade A bullshit and the coaches know it, the ADs at the high school know it but the idiot parents, admin, and younger players don’t know it.Meek said:so those ceremonial non-committable offers really make bitchy little high school coaches happy?
At the end of the year the coach gets to put how many different total scholarship offers his team had, total dollar worth of the scholarships and if he loses some games can still point to how many players are playing in college or received div 1 offers.
It’s fucked and meaningless and stupid but coaches and athletic directors use “I had 5 players with SEC offers” to protect themselves from parents and school admin that don’t understand what is actually going on.
Those positions are just as much political as they are competency driven, and a local school offering “your” players scholarships is just another round coaches use to promote and protect themselves.
Example; Under Sark or Ty they could say “I have 7-10 players with offers to UW” now they say they have 2-3... idiot parents and admin see the decrease and assume the coach must be doing something wrong. -
UW is an elite offer. These schools rarely produce elite talent. This isn't front page news...
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Can Cohen clean house at farm teams too? She is batting a pretty high percentage right now.
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What DDY - God Love Him - doesn't realize, is how Willinghammy his rationales are. Perceptions from the black coaching mafia, their media acolytes and their "only black coaches get me" athletes are what put that fucker in the Head Coaching seat at UW. Yeah, sure, black culture matters. I get it. But like Thurgood Marshall once said, "It don't matter whether the snake is black or white, they both bite." Making it entirely about "blackness" - which is the road DDY is on, is useless fucking nonsense. Look no further than the men's BB team to toss that "only black coaches get me" shit right out the window. Sorry, DDY, but IDGAF about a shitty program like Garfield snubbing their nose at UW. O'Dea will be beating their asses into the ground for the next two decades just like they do now. And so long as we get the Gaskins, we'll be fine. Only a fucking fool would bend and stoop to Joey Thomas's level to coddle his players who aren't smart enough to see him for the charlatan snake he is, as he pollutes his players heads with self-serving, self-aggrandizing bullshit.
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Having scribed the above, I look forward to the curse word-filled screed DDY will retaliate with. DDY is always funniest when he's angry. And drunk.
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This whole saga is some doogman shit. Get it off the front page. Everyone, myself included should have ignored this shit. It’s a hs coach making a dumb comment on Twitter. Even he said people we getting extreme with it. A 7 page thread and putting this on the front page makes this site look stupid.
Remember when we used to make fun of doogman and dawgpound? This is just as bad as the shit they have pulled.
Maybe there is some underlying bitterness towards UW, but it was to promote some players going to Eastern that certain high school coaches think are pretty good. -
Perhaps this will kill it.
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Dennis is a liberal who believes affirmative action is a good idea. Therefore UW needs to set aside schollies for try hard WA guys instead of go after and recruit the best player you can get.
Dennis likes to think that.
