Julius Irvin, 4* 2018 DB, Anaheim (Servite), CA (COMMITTED)
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Alright I'll over analyze this. Alabama currently has 3 Cornerbacks committed, and they got some crystal balls last week for a 4th, Eddie Smith. They do not have any Safeties committed, nor are they favored for any. They lose like 8 DB's this year so you'd think they'd want as many as possible.
Alabama probably wants to take 6 or so more guys for this class. They currently have 0 QB's, so that's 1. They have 1.5 WR's (Slade Bolden), and probably will get 1 more. They only have 2 OL, and will probably take 1 more. They'll get Malik Langham, so that's 4.
That leaves them with a couple spots left for DB's. They're going after three 5 stars, in Surtain, ITS and Tyson Campbell. I don't think they're favored for any of those guys, but they are Bama and just won the championship. Assuming they strike out, that would leave them room to take 3 Star Eddie Smith mentioned earlier, and........
Julius Irvin. fuck everything
There is no point to this post btw, I was just searching for hope. If they want Irvin, they'll make room. -
Kid has a high from the Bama offer. Let it wear off.
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Having Keith Taylor & Bynum at Washington doesn’t hurt our chances either...doubt he knows anyone on Bama.
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Academic smack is for losers.BallzDeep said:If you want the best chance to win a national title; Bama is the best place to be. If you care about literally anything else like academics, campus life, environment, diversity, team brotherhood, coaches that care about you as a human being, and post-football opportunities; Bama is not the best place to be.
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I'm hearing Anaheim looks like a shithole. No wonder democrats are so touchy about the word. Their shithole policies are shithole.
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In this case, I don't think this is Biggins playing the Eklund "I can say this and not be wrong" card. It has a ring of truthiness to it.BlastDoor said:Biggins is saying Irvin was ready to commit to USC, then heard the Lake news and UW instantly became his leader. Then Bama offered and now everything is up on the air.
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I am ready to downvote each and every Ballzdeep post, both on principle and also because he is wrong way more than 81% of the time and I like those odds, but he isn't wrong here.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Academic smack is for losers.BallzDeep said:If you want the best chance to win a national title; Bama is the best place to be. If you care about literally anything else like academics, campus life, environment, diversity, team brotherhood, coaches that care about you as a human being, and post-football opportunities; Bama is not the best place to be.
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Depends on if the kid is FS or SS.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Academic smack is for losers.BallzDeep said:If you want the best chance to win a national title; Bama is the best place to be. If you care about literally anything else like academics, campus life, environment, diversity, team brotherhood, coaches that care about you as a human being, and post-football opportunities; Bama is not the best place to be.
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Lake is reportedly not against negative recruiting. I might emphasize how Alabama is where they stuck with a QB from the South who literally can't throw for an entire year over a better QB from the West until they were absolutely forced to play him. Would Irvin get a fair shake compared to some DBs they bring in from Florida or Georgia?
Not to mention that being black in the South is a whole lot different than being black in the West. -
LOL at the old, rich, white guy in Seattle advising on what it's like in the southeast for a black kid from "the west".RealRhino said:Lake is reportedly not against negative recruiting. I might emphasize how Alabama is where they stuck with a QB from the South who literally can't throw for an entire year over a better QB from the West until they were absolutely forced to play him. Would Irvin get a fair shake compared to some DBs they bring in from Florida or Georgia?
Not to mention that being black in the South is a whole lot different than being black in the West.
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Seattle is not a paradise of race relations and there are not a whole lot of Black folk to begin with
The modern south has a lot going on for a larger Black population. Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA
3,2,1 for someone to prove I am talking out my ass without looking up numbers and shit -
Memphis, New Orleans and St Louis (I know, not really southern) are black as hell too.RaceBannon said:Seattle is not a paradise of race relations and there are not a whole lot of Black folk to begin with
The modern south has a lot going on for a larger Black population. Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA
3,2,1 for someone to prove I am talking out my ass without looking up numbers and shit
White people in the south are generally worse to black people than white people in the west are. But black people in the south generally have a lot more black people around them than black people in the west do.
Different strokes for different black folks, but assuming life in the south is across the bored worse for blacks than life in the west is white privilege FS. -
RaceBannon said:
Seattle is not a paradise of race relations and there are not a whole lot of Black folk to begin with
The modern south has a lot going on for a larger Black population. Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA
3,2,1 for someone to prove I am talking out my ass without looking up numbers and shit
Sorry, but you couldn't be further off. Atlanta is an island in a sea of shit for people of color in the south. The elected leaders of southern states (people like Jeff Sessions) STILL have abysmal records on civil rights issues compared to elected leaders in other parts of the country. Case in point, the new laws springing up over the past couple years designed to disenfranchise black voters are primarily concentrated in the south: https://nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/new-voting-laws-south-could-affect-millions-african-americans-n639511
Want more facts/data? Happy to walk through how the south fled to the republican party after civil rights legislation passed by Kennedy and LBJ, and how those republicans have supported policies/judges/political candidates that have completely worked against the interests of African Americans. Believe me, I have a library to back this up. Another big factor was Barry Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act and his speech at the republican convention in 1964.
And nobody thinks Seattle is a "paradise" for race relations. African Americans will tell you that Seattle lacks diversity. But if you look at the civil rights record of Seattle/Olympia versus southern states, it's really no contest. They're worlds apart.
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No one's arguing that politics are better for blacks in the south than in the west.Passion said:RaceBannon said:Seattle is not a paradise of race relations and there are not a whole lot of Black folk to begin with
The modern south has a lot going on for a larger Black population. Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA
3,2,1 for someone to prove I am talking out my ass without looking up numbers and shit
Sorry, but you couldn't be further off. Atlanta is an island in a sea of shit for people of color in the south. The elected leaders of southern states (people like Jeff Sessions) STILL have abysmal records on civil rights issues compared to elected leaders in other parts of the country. Case in point, the new laws springing up over the past couple years designed to disenfranchise black voters are primarily concentrated in the south: https://nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/new-voting-laws-south-could-affect-millions-african-americans-n639511
Want more facts/data? Happy to walk through how the south fled to the republican party after civil rights legislation passed by Kennedy and LBJ, and how those republicans have supported policies/judges/political candidates that have completely worked against the interests of African Americans. Another big factor was Barry Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act and his speech at the republican convention in 1964. Believe me, I have a library to back this up.
And nobody thinks Seattle is a "paradise" for race relations, but if you look at the civil rights record of Seattle/Olympia versus southern states, it's really no contest. They're worlds apart.
3, 2, 1 for someone to tell us to move to the "tug" bored, which I don't visit.
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Brilliant response. "There's a lot more to life than politics?" Uhhh....you mean like investments in public health and education? Literacy rates? Economic opportunities? Things like that?dnc said:
No one's arguing that politics are better for blacks in the south than in the west.Passion said:RaceBannon said:Seattle is not a paradise of race relations and there are not a whole lot of Black folk to begin with
The modern south has a lot going on for a larger Black population. Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA
3,2,1 for someone to prove I am talking out my ass without looking up numbers and shit
Sorry, but you couldn't be further off. Atlanta is an island in a sea of shit for people of color in the south. The elected leaders of southern states (people like Jeff Sessions) STILL have abysmal records on civil rights issues compared to elected leaders in other parts of the country. Case in point, the new laws springing up over the past couple years designed to disenfranchise black voters are primarily concentrated in the south: https://nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/new-voting-laws-south-could-affect-millions-african-americans-n639511
Want more facts/data? Happy to walk through how the south fled to the republican party after civil rights legislation passed by Kennedy and LBJ, and how those republicans have supported policies/judges/political candidates that have completely worked against the interests of African Americans. Another big factor was Barry Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act and his speech at the republican convention in 1964. Believe me, I have a library to back this up.
And nobody thinks Seattle is a "paradise" for race relations, but if you look at the civil rights record of Seattle/Olympia versus southern states, it's really no contest. They're worlds apart.
3, 2, 1 for someone to tell us to move to the "tug" bored, which I don't visit.
There's a lot more to life than politics though.
Not sure if you're aware, but "politics" (i.e., who you elect) has a significant impact in determining all of those things.
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we need @Tequilla to weigh in about the merits and demerits of slavery in this thread
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Please don't make this into a discussion about race in the south. Last time that happened BallzDeep immediately nuked the thread and put it well over its retard quota. No one wants that.
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I was therePassion said:RaceBannon said:Seattle is not a paradise of race relations and there are not a whole lot of Black folk to begin with
The modern south has a lot going on for a larger Black population. Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA
3,2,1 for someone to prove I am talking out my ass without looking up numbers and shit
Sorry, but you couldn't be further off. Atlanta is an island in a sea of shit for people of color in the south. The elected leaders of southern states (people like Jeff Sessions) STILL have abysmal records on civil rights issues compared to elected leaders in other parts of the country. Case in point, the new laws springing up over the past couple years designed to disenfranchise black voters are primarily concentrated in the south: https://nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/new-voting-laws-south-could-affect-millions-african-americans-n639511
Want more facts/data? Happy to walk through how the south fled to the republican party after civil rights legislation passed by Kennedy and LBJ, and how those republicans have supported policies/judges/political candidates that have completely worked against the interests of African Americans. Believe me, I have a library to back this up. Another big factor was Barry Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act and his speech at the republican convention in 1964.
And nobody thinks Seattle is a "paradise" for race relations. African Americans will tell you that Seattle lacks diversity. But if you look at the civil rights record of Seattle/Olympia versus southern states, it's really no contest. They're worlds apart.
3, 2, 1 for someone to tell us to move to the "tug" bored, which I don't visit.
Remember?
I am actually not that far off. The south is not a paradise either but because of the larger Black population there are more islands that just Atlanta.
Most people are more concerned with today than yesterday. I think we can keep this here. I am certainly not arguing that we have a paradise anywhere yet.
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Can you tardos argue in PMs so I don't get notifications of it?
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Whooooooooooooooosh.Passion said:
Brilliant response. "There's a lot more to life than politics?" Uhhh....you mean like investments in public health and education? Literacy rates? Economic opportunities? Things like that?dnc said:
No one's arguing that politics are better for blacks in the south than in the west.Passion said:RaceBannon said:Seattle is not a paradise of race relations and there are not a whole lot of Black folk to begin with
The modern south has a lot going on for a larger Black population. Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA
3,2,1 for someone to prove I am talking out my ass without looking up numbers and shit
Sorry, but you couldn't be further off. Atlanta is an island in a sea of shit for people of color in the south. The elected leaders of southern states (people like Jeff Sessions) STILL have abysmal records on civil rights issues compared to elected leaders in other parts of the country. Case in point, the new laws springing up over the past couple years designed to disenfranchise black voters are primarily concentrated in the south: https://nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/new-voting-laws-south-could-affect-millions-african-americans-n639511
Want more facts/data? Happy to walk through how the south fled to the republican party after civil rights legislation passed by Kennedy and LBJ, and how those republicans have supported policies/judges/political candidates that have completely worked against the interests of African Americans. Another big factor was Barry Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act and his speech at the republican convention in 1964. Believe me, I have a library to back this up.
And nobody thinks Seattle is a "paradise" for race relations, but if you look at the civil rights record of Seattle/Olympia versus southern states, it's really no contest. They're worlds apart.
3, 2, 1 for someone to tell us to move to the "tug" bored, which I don't visit.
There's a lot more to life than politics though.
Not sure if you're aware, but "politics" (i.e., who you elect) has a significant impact in determining all of those things.
I personally know multiple African Americans who prefer living here in Mississippi than their time in Philadelphia or Detroit or DC.
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ATL is the black capital, Houston is probably second.RaceBannon said:Seattle is not a paradise of race relations and there are not a whole lot of Black folk to begin with
The modern south has a lot going on for a larger Black population. Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA
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Move this to Tug Board
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No worries. Unlike @BallzDeep I don't need to post the same thing 37 times. I said my piece. Just an opinion really
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disagreejhfstyle24 said:Please don't make this into a discussion about race in the south. Last time that happened BallzDeep immediately nuked the thread and put it well over its retard quota. No one wants that.
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Yeah I was going to say H-town. Yonce bitches.WilburHooksHands said:
ATL is the black capital, Houston is probably second.RaceBannon said:Seattle is not a paradise of race relations and there are not a whole lot of Black folk to begin with
The modern south has a lot going on for a larger Black population. Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA
3,2,1 for someone to prove I am talking out my ass without looking up numbers and shit
Passion is right about a lot of the history and the fact that the racist white men still have political control.
But the fact is that Blacks have been flooding back to the South since the 1970s. Economically the black population is doing much better in Southern cities compared to Northern with the exception of D.C. -
Without touching on the Civil Rights angle of R vs D ...
One reason IMO the South tends to be red is that you have a lot of individual/state rights people there that don’t want government interference ... particularly as it pertains to the 2nd Amendment.
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LOL at you assuming I'm any of those three things.Meek said:
LOL at the old, rich, white guy in Seattle advising on what it's like in the southeast for a black kid from "the west".RealRhino said:Lake is reportedly not against negative recruiting. I might emphasize how Alabama is where they stuck with a QB from the South who literally can't throw for an entire year over a better QB from the West until they were absolutely forced to play him. Would Irvin get a fair shake compared to some DBs they bring in from Florida or Georgia?
Not to mention that being black in the South is a whole lot different than being black in the West.
