The Lake is Hurting UW Theory - STOp
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I need a lot more proof that Gerald Alexander is an elite DB coach before I consider swapping them out.Dennis_DeYoung said:Also - if you aren't having that hard a time doing those two contingent calcs... you could add another CRAZY one in there...
What are we paying Lake vs. what we would pay Alexander? Could that $$ be used on upgrades or for the 10th coach?
I fucking love Jimmy Lake and I don't want him to leave, but you guys are as bad as Doogs with this shit.
Coker's plan of hiring him as the 10th coach is fanfuckingtastic to me. I'm fine with him as the backup plan to Lake, and bringing in another recruiter is always a win. Getting rid of Lake a day before he chooses to LEAVE! is a non starter.
Lake is a top 3 coach on staff and a top 3 recruiter on staff. It's going to take more than one bad recruiting class for me to decide to MOVE! on from that guy. -
I don't think anyone is advocating to fire Lake. I know I'm not.dnc said:
I need a lot more proof that Gerald Alexander is an elite DB coach before I consider swapping them out.Dennis_DeYoung said:Also - if you aren't having that hard a time doing those two contingent calcs... you could add another CRAZY one in there...
What are we paying Lake vs. what we would pay Alexander? Could that $$ be used on upgrades or for the 10th coach?
I fucking love Jimmy Lake and I don't want him to leave, but you guys are as bad as Doogs with this shit.
Coker's plan of hiring him as the 10th coach is fanfuckingtastic to me. I'm fine with him as the backup plan to Lake, and bringing in another recruiter is always a win. Getting rid of Lake a day before he chooses to LEAVE! is a non starter.
Lake is a top 3 coach on staff and a top 3 recruiter on staff. It's going to take more than one bad recruiting class for me to decide to MOVE! on from that guy. -
"We would have been better off if Lake left last year"CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don't think anyone is advocating to fire Lake. I know I'm not.dnc said:
I need a lot more proof that Gerald Alexander is an elite DB coach before I consider swapping them out.Dennis_DeYoung said:Also - if you aren't having that hard a time doing those two contingent calcs... you could add another CRAZY one in there...
What are we paying Lake vs. what we would pay Alexander? Could that $$ be used on upgrades or for the 10th coach?
I fucking love Jimmy Lake and I don't want him to leave, but you guys are as bad as Doogs with this shit.
Coker's plan of hiring him as the 10th coach is fanfuckingtastic to me. I'm fine with him as the backup plan to Lake, and bringing in another recruiter is always a win. Getting rid of Lake a day before he chooses to LEAVE! is a non starter.
Lake is a top 3 coach on staff and a top 3 recruiter on staff. It's going to take more than one bad recruiting class for me to decide to MOVE! on from that guy.
"What are we paying Lake vs. what we would pay Alexander? Could that $$ be used on upgrades or for the 10th coach?"
Maybe no one has had the balls to say it explicitly but those quotes sound an awful lot like saying to let him go. Especially DDY's (the second one). He's saying the money you save between Alexander and Lake gets you a better 10th coach, not to hire Alexander as the 10th coach. -
First of all - did you see Cal’s DB’s this year? They were massively improved.
Reminded me of what happened to Tru when Heyward came.
Second NO ONE WANTS JIMMY TO LEAVE AND NO ONE WANTS TO FIRE HIM.
Fuck man. This is straight up Doog shit.
I love the idea of Alexander being hired as the 10th coach and coaching OLBs or something, but we aren’t hiring him to coach DBs as well.
We already have a GA that everyone loves named Terrence Brown. We don’t need an extra DB coach and we aren’t going to neuter Jimmy by LESSENING his role.
I just don’t see us hiring Alexander until Lake leaves. Sadly. -
Then what the hell does this mean?Dennis_DeYoung said:First of all - did you see Cal’s DB’s this year? They were massively improved.
Reminded me of what happened to Tru when Heyward came.
Second NO ONE WANTS JIMMY TO LEAVE AND NO ONE WANTS TO FIRE HIM.
Fuck man. This is straight up Doog shit.
I love the idea of Alexander being hired as the 10th coach and coaching OLBs or something, but we aren’t hiring him to coach DBs as well.
We already have a GA that everyone loves named Terrence Brown. We don’t need an extra DB coach and we aren’t going to neuter Jimmy by LESSENING his role.
I just don’t see us hiring Alexander until Lake leaves. Sadly.
"What are we paying Lake vs. what we would pay Alexander? Could that $$ be used on upgrades or for the 10th coach?"
How else could is that supposed to be interpreted other than you'd rather have Alexander at less money than Lake for what we have now?
And no, I didn't watch any Cal football except the UW game. Glad to hear they took a step forward. -
I don’t want him to leave, but I live in the real world.dnc said:
Then what the hell does this mean?Dennis_DeYoung said:First of all - did you see Cal’s DB’s this year? They were massively improved.
Reminded me of what happened to Tru when Heyward came.
Second NO ONE WANTS JIMMY TO LEAVE AND NO ONE WANTS TO FIRE HIM.
Fuck man. This is straight up Doog shit.
I love the idea of Alexander being hired as the 10th coach and coaching OLBs or something, but we aren’t hiring him to coach DBs as well.
We already have a GA that everyone loves named Terrence Brown. We don’t need an extra DB coach and we aren’t going to neuter Jimmy by LESSENING his role.
I just don’t see us hiring Alexander until Lake leaves. Sadly.
"What are we paying Lake vs. what we would pay Alexander? Could that $$ be used on upgrades or for the 10th coach?"
How else could is that supposed to be interpreted other than you'd rather have Alexander at less money than Lake for what we have now?
And no, I didn't watch any Cal football except the UW game. Glad to hear they took a step forward. -
Still unclear wtf you're saying. The real world means what exactly: a) he is leaving this offseason b) he is leaving eventually c) we're better off without him?Dennis_DeYoung said:
I don’t want him to leave, but I live in the real world.dnc said:
Then what the hell does this mean?Dennis_DeYoung said:First of all - did you see Cal’s DB’s this year? They were massively improved.
Reminded me of what happened to Tru when Heyward came.
Second NO ONE WANTS JIMMY TO LEAVE AND NO ONE WANTS TO FIRE HIM.
Fuck man. This is straight up Doog shit.
I love the idea of Alexander being hired as the 10th coach and coaching OLBs or something, but we aren’t hiring him to coach DBs as well.
We already have a GA that everyone loves named Terrence Brown. We don’t need an extra DB coach and we aren’t going to neuter Jimmy by LESSENING his role.
I just don’t see us hiring Alexander until Lake leaves. Sadly.
"What are we paying Lake vs. what we would pay Alexander? Could that $$ be used on upgrades or for the 10th coach?"
How else could is that supposed to be interpreted other than you'd rather have Alexander at less money than Lake for what we have now?
And no, I didn't watch any Cal football except the UW game. Glad to hear they took a step forward.
I'm firmly in camp B, btw, and have been all along. -
B.dnc said:
Still unclear wtf you're saying. The real world means what exactly: a) he is leaving this offseason b) he is leaving eventually c) we're better off without him?Dennis_DeYoung said:
I don’t want him to leave, but I live in the real world.dnc said:
Then what the hell does this mean?Dennis_DeYoung said:First of all - did you see Cal’s DB’s this year? They were massively improved.
Reminded me of what happened to Tru when Heyward came.
Second NO ONE WANTS JIMMY TO LEAVE AND NO ONE WANTS TO FIRE HIM.
Fuck man. This is straight up Doog shit.
I love the idea of Alexander being hired as the 10th coach and coaching OLBs or something, but we aren’t hiring him to coach DBs as well.
We already have a GA that everyone loves named Terrence Brown. We don’t need an extra DB coach and we aren’t going to neuter Jimmy by LESSENING his role.
I just don’t see us hiring Alexander until Lake leaves. Sadly.
"What are we paying Lake vs. what we would pay Alexander? Could that $$ be used on upgrades or for the 10th coach?"
How else could is that supposed to be interpreted other than you'd rather have Alexander at less money than Lake for what we have now?
And no, I didn't watch any Cal football except the UW game. Glad to hear they took a step forward.
I'm firmly in camp B, btw, and have been all along. -
Is there any posibility at all that Lake just did a shitty job recruiting this year?
Maybe he thought it was going to be easier than it actually was? Maybe he thought all he'd have to do was hand Kyler the paper and he would sign?
I keep seeing the "recruits don't know if he'll be in for the long haul". I've seen assistant coaches pull in monster classes when it is well known they have one foot out the door.
Maybe No Balls just dropped the ball this year. -
The leak to Softy about Lake eventually getting a contract extension says a lot about what the difficulties have been like for Lake and Petersen this cycle, especially the fact it comes right before Gordon is visited by ND and hopefully visits UW.bananasnblondes said:Is there any posibility at all that Lake just did a shitty job recruiting this year?
Maybe he thought it was going to be easier than it actually was? Maybe he thought all he'd have to do was hand Kyler the paper and he would sign?
I keep seeing the "recruits don't know if he'll be in for the long haul". I've seen assistant coaches pull in monster classes when it is well known they have one foot out the door.
Maybe No Balls just dropped the ball this year.
The reason it hurts us more than other schools is the way we sell. Pete is all about being upfront and honest with recruits, even if it means hearing stuff they don't want to hear. Meanwhile, other schools would just lie straight to the face of recruits and parents even if they knew they had a job on the other line.
