Commitments and Visits in the Petersen Era (2014-2017 data)

When does your shit recruiting website launch?

Your stats don't mean what you think they mean.

Can you group the data by stars?

Also, don't do powerpoint. Microsoft products suck.

Can you do it in R?

Edwin_Bambino said:

FremontTroll said:

backthepack said:

FremontTroll said:

Your stats don't mean what you think they mean.

Well duh it's not detailed enough. Kids take random visits just because, some schools just bring in a shit ton of kids, different visit strategies etc. I just thought it was chintresting.

Naw, my point is that we close such a high percentage because we bring in so few. For the most part kids that are already committed or have very high interest.

If we brought in as many kids as the other schools you listed our percentage would drop to a similar number.

I agree. Bama has a lower percentage of kids that visit and commit but that’s just because it’s all 5 Star kids who want to trip to Bama not because Bama is worse at selling.

I bet a lot of them go "Wow Mr. Saban is a dick"

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WeakarmCobra said:

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Disagree. HIV maybe, but definitely not full blown AIDS just yet.

backthepack said:

Tequilla said:

backthepack said:

Here's a few schools for comparison sake.

Conversion Breakdowns (visitor to signee) 2014-2017

USC
2017: 14/27
2016: 14/29
2015: 23/31
2014: 17/24

Overall: 68/111
61.26%

Bama
2017: 27/45
2016: 19/57
2015: 24/36
2014: 24/48

Overall: 94 /186
50.53%

FSU
2017: 23/36
2016: 26/40
2015: 19/34
2014: 28/51

Overall: 96/161
59.62%


tOSU

2017: 17/30
2016: 23/42
2015: 26/46
2014: 20/36

Overall: 86/154
55.84%

Oklahoma

2017: 24/48
2016: 13/35
2015: 11/35
2014: 18/34

Overall: 66/152
43.42%
Not surprised it's Norman.



TL;DR
UW needs to bring in more elite guys on visits because they can sell the shit out of the program in SEATTLE. Winning will help a ton with getting elite guys up here on visits (duh). Basically we suck at getting (elite) kids up here.

That's a theory ... but I think it's flawed

I said it was flawed in an earlier poast. I'll break it down by stars.

Here's how I look at it ...

In general, Pete and staff does a tremendous job of identifying the players (and their families) that are buying what Pete, UW, and the OKG philosophy is. As your numbers show, we're pretty damn consistent with getting 2 out of every 3 guys on campus on officials to end up showing up. Definitely that's closing the deal.

In some ways, it's a bit of a diversion from what @Dennis_DeYoung likes to talk about with respect to allocating resources properly in recruiting to maximize the expected return. Dennis tends to look at it from a geographic viewpoint. I tend to look at it more from the way that you've laid it out here in making sure that we're finding the guys that are buying in and then closing them.

When you look at more national programs like Alabama, Florida State, Ohio State, and Oklahoma that are bringing in substantially more kids on visits, a lot of it in my mind falls more in that these programs are more destination programs. Taking Alabama in particular, if you're an elite kid, and you get an offer from Alabama and in a position to take an official, you're likely going to take it. And from Alabama's point of view, let's say they need 2 WRs in a class but 5 of the top 8 guys in the country are very interested, while I'm sure that Saban may have a preference out of those 5, I'd be willing to bet that they are feeling pretty good as long as 2 of the 5 commit at some point and they can leverage those trips to maximize pressure on those that they really want to commit. But there's a lot of it that goes into play in recruiting at those schools that quite frankly at Washington we're not at that point yet.

The challenge for UW going forward is finding a way to expand that OKG base in a way where we're able to get more elite players to consider us and then my guess is if we're capable of doing so, you'll find our "close rate" to drop a little bit from where it's at currently.

It's all a matter of what the underlying philosophy is for a program and there is no right or wrong way in my mind ... it's whatever works for each respective program.