Mueller Gets Another Scalp
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I'm just piecing together what I am hearing in chat. I'm not sure why this news so so big in regards to Trump. Flynn sure got his life fucked up.
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The story is that Trump asked Flynn to talk to foreign government when he was a still a presidential candidate. If Trump was still a candidate then it opens him up to collusion charges but there's a lot of grey area about what does and does not constitute collusion. The implication is that Flynn entering a plea deal indicates there is some hard evidence of collusion. It could just be Flynn trying to save his ass though and the info that he's giving up isn't anything that would bring down Trump. Maybe it brings down Kushner. Maybe no one. IWIWBI.RaceBannon said:So the theory on the get Trump side is that the elected president asked his NSA guy to talk to a foreign government which is legal and then told him to lie to the FBI about it?
And to prove that dubious legal claim Mueller will use a convicted perjurer.
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Finally the smoking Gun we've all been waiting for!!!!
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Yeah sure
Big story 1,987 hondo
Red Rocket is probably right which means its nothing. -
Ironic that you poasted a hot blonde intern.YellowSnow said:I trust the JD holders of HH on these types of matters.
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no mention of Ossai, so probably BS2001400ex said: -
Where's the irony? Who amongst us is against hot, blonde interns?salemcoog said:
Ironic that you poasted a hot blonde intern.YellowSnow said:I trust the JD holders of HH on these types of matters.
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I'm not sure I commented. Or the article concludes anything. Reality is, dude will probably die of a heart attack in a couple weeks.RaceBannon said:Yeah sure
Big story 1,987 hondo
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Not me. But you may want to PM @IrishDawg22, as to the irony. He'll dial ya in.YellowSnow said:
Where's the irony? Who amongst us is against hot, blonde interns?salemcoog said:
Ironic that you poasted a hot blonde intern.YellowSnow said:I trust the JD holders of HH on these types of matters.
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Yeah, really nothing to see here.RaceBannon said:I'm just piecing together what I am hearing in chat. I'm not sure why this news so so big in regards to Trump. Flynn sure got his life fucked up.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/opinion/michael-flynn-guilty-plea-takeaways.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region -
That's what I am hearing
Friday dump of red meat for the anti Trumpers
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas -
Tell me more about emails and Benghazi. I remember you being a cheerleader for that cause.RaceBannon said:That's what I am hearing
Friday dump of red meat for the anti Trumpers
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas -
There's a lot more there than there is there here.
Same cast of corrupt clowns running the "investigation" -
The hammer will drop any day now. Are you really that fucktarded race or you just trolling?RaceBannon said:There's a lot more there than there is there here.
Same cast of corrupt clowns running the "investigation" -
Fuck off
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Ok, I get it now -i.e., hot blonde interns and Oregon getting the hammer. Just needed an extra clue.salemcoog said:
Not me. But you may want to PM @IrishDawg22, as to the irony. He'll dial ya in.YellowSnow said:
Where's the irony? Who amongst us is against hot, blonde interns?salemcoog said:
Ironic that you poasted a hot blonde intern.YellowSnow said:I trust the JD holders of HH on these types of matters.
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Epistemic uncertainty, checkRaceBannon said:There's a lot more there than there is there here.
Same cast of corrupt clowns running the "investigation"
Anti-elitism, check
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/cover_story/2017/01/trump_sold_america_a_miracle_cure_it_will_fail_he_ll_get_off_for_free.html -
That's the hat trick. Bad news for Trump seems to drag you down.RaceBannon said:Fuck off
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This isn't bad news for Trump
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Your certainly welcome to link any opinion pieces you want but they aren't facts, they are opinions. My track record is far better than these option folks. I'm not anti elitist. I am eliteBearsWiin said:
Epistemic uncertainty, checkRaceBannon said:There's a lot more there than there is there here.
Same cast of corrupt clowns running the "investigation"
Anti-elitism, check
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/cover_story/2017/01/trump_sold_america_a_miracle_cure_it_will_fail_he_ll_get_off_for_free.html -
Everything I have read had said he will testify about being told to meet with Russia about UN resolutions and Syria in December, after Trump had been elected. I don't think that really points to collusion since it was after the election. Unless there is something else, it is not as big of a deal as what everyone is saying. It is also odd that what Flynn plead guilty to is only this, and not that he lied about collusion or anything else. If Flynn would testify about collusion, why wouldn't the plea deal be for lying about that to the FBI, instead of something that took place after the election? Flynn has basically done what Clinton did to congress, lie about something that is not illegal.
Edit: This is not to say this is nothing. But unless it results in something else, it would not lead to Trump being removed from office or even impeached. -
Of course you are, Race. Of course you are.RaceBannon said:
Your certainly welcome to link any opinion pieces you want but they aren't facts, they are opinions. My track record is far better than these option folks. I'm not anti elitist. I am eliteBearsWiin said:
Epistemic uncertainty, checkRaceBannon said:There's a lot more there than there is there here.
Same cast of corrupt clowns running the "investigation"
Anti-elitism, check
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/cover_story/2017/01/trump_sold_america_a_miracle_cure_it_will_fail_he_ll_get_off_for_free.html -
Gosh darn it people like me
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Hippopeteamus said:
Everything I have read had said he will testify about being told to meet with Russia about UN resolutions and Syria in December, after Trump had been elected. I don't think that really points to collusion since it was after the election. Unless there is something else, it is not as big of a deal as what everyone is saying. It is also odd that what Flynn plead guilty to is only this, and not that he lied about collusion or anything else. If Flynn would testify about collusion, why wouldn't the plea deal be for lying about that to the FBI, instead of something that took place after the election? Flynn has basically done what Clinton did to congress, lie about something that is not illegal.
Edit: This is not to say this is nothing. But unless it results in something else, it would not lead to Trump being removed from office or even impeached.
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Because I agree with this it is very well saidHippopeteamus said:Everything I have read had said he will testify about being told to meet with Russia about UN resolutions and Syria in December, after Trump had been elected. I don't think that really points to collusion since it was after the election. Unless there is something else, it is not as big of a deal as what everyone is saying. It is also odd that what Flynn plead guilty to is only this, and not that he lied about collusion or anything else. If Flynn would testify about collusion, why wouldn't the plea deal be for lying about that to the FBI, instead of something that took place after the election? Flynn has basically done what Clinton did to congress, lie about something that is not illegal.
Edit: This is not to say this is nothing. But unless it results in something else, it would not lead to Trump being removed from office or even impeached. -
In January 2017, General Flynn didn't tell the truth to Jim Comey & Andrew McCabe's clown show of an FBI, about meeting the Russian ambassador.
Thank God he didn't.
An incumbent administration communicating with foreign states, while a lame duck POTUS runs out his or her term, is commonplace & happens all the time. As you'd expect it to be.
However, the FBI under Comey & McCabe was a corrupted organization, which Flynn knew well. IMO he did the RIGHT thing not telling them about the communications with the Russian ambassador. It would have been leaked, with the intent of bringing down Trump.
In reality, Flynn was used in a scheme cooked up by Sally Yates, Jim Comey and McGahan (WH Counsel) as part of their attempt to bring down president-elect Trump.
They used unmasked intel under a FISA warrant (probably based on the Fusion GPS dossier) to ID Flynn and then leaked it to WaPo, a crime.
Yates & McGahan also tried to ambush Trump by saying they warned him about Flynn.
It didn't work. Trump was inaugurated.
Trump likely became fully aware of what they did in February, but definitely by at least May 8, 2017:
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BTW - wouldn't surprise me if he & Flynn knew exactly what was going on as it happened.
After his 'resignation', Flynn offered to tell his 'story' in a public Congressional hearing, in exchange for immunity. This was denied. The last thing those snakes wanted was for Flynn to reveal all on live television.
This plea deal allows Flynn to provide testimony under oath, as well as 24/7 'assistance', to Mueller about EVERYTHING he knows. But it won't be about the Trump-Russia lie. It will be about other things.
About Yates, Comey & McGahan.
About Obama.
About the Clintons.
Ignore the crowing of the hysterical MSM today. They have been consistently wrong about everything, because they are basing it all on the Trump-Russia lie.
They are 100% wrong on this, too.
Remember these words from General Flynn's lawyers in March, 2017:
'General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit'.
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It was after the ejection was over.RedRocket said:
The story is that Trump asked Flynn to talk to foreign government when he was a still a presidential candidate. If Trump was still a candidate then it opens him up to collusion charges but there's a lot of grey area about what does and does not constitute collusion. The implication is that Flynn entering a plea deal indicates there is some hard evidence of collusion. It could just be Flynn trying to save his ass though and the info that he's giving up isn't anything that would bring down Trump. Maybe it brings down Kushner. Maybe no one. IWIWBI.RaceBannon said:So the theory on the get Trump side is that the elected president asked his NSA guy to talk to a foreign government which is legal and then told him to lie to the FBI about it?
And to prove that dubious legal claim Mueller will use a convicted perjurer.
Ok.
Odd as I recall Obama had a big middle East meet and greet during his first run? Guess he went but never talked to anyone? Double standard much?
