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Suddenly seniored...
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Sounds like a few guys are getting seniored this year per Sark via the Times. Curious to see who's getting dropped...
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/huskyfootball/2013/11/27/sarkisian-says-hes-still-mulling-uws-starting-quarterback-options-for-apple-cup/
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/huskyfootball/2013/11/27/sarkisian-says-hes-still-mulling-uws-starting-quarterback-options-for-apple-cup/
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On the twatters, Jood is saying it's DiAndre Campbell, Jamaal Kearse, and Andrew Hudson. Meh, meh, loss.
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Andrew Hudson sure fell off the map. 2-year starter, to never playing, to now "graduating". Interesting.
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What a shocker. Surprised there is only 3.
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The fifth year is not a right, it's a privilege. *cough*
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Ty suddenly seniored his guys before the Stanford game which allowed Stanford to go 1-11 instead of 0-12.
Why is this being announced before the last game is played? I know we want them to run out the tunnel and get a flower or something but it is Ty Willingham Fucking Stupid anyway -
I think Taz Stevenson as well. He was reportedly redshirting.
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Scott Eklund was quick to jump in and say that this is completely different than what Tyrone did. These kids wanted Sark to suddenly senior them. And by the wway, "suddenly senior" is a derogatory term and should not be used in reference to the dealings of Steve Sarkisian, who is a great man (unlike that scumbag at UCLA).
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Wait a minute.....all these guys getting degrees from UW.... I don't understand the problem.
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You're right. I should have said "some kids have been granted the opportunity to graduate early by Steve Sarkisian". That should make Eklund happy huh?bananasnblondes said:Scott Eklund was quick to jump in and say that this is completely different than what Tyrone did. These kids wanted Sark to suddenly senior them. And by the wway, "suddenly senior" is a derogatory term and should not be used in reference to the dealings of Steve Sarkisian, who is a great man (unlike that scumbag at UCLA).
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Yeah, add Stevenson to the list as well. I think both Mason Kelley and Greg Bell tweeted out the distinguished list.chuck said:I think Taz Stevenson as well. He was reportedly redshirting.
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In all honesty, though, I fully support this move,even if the kids wanted to keep playing. None of these guys would be playing much next year and are just dead weight on the roster. If it got to the point that, due to injuries, we would have to play any of these guys for major minutes then we are fucked. Might as well clear up a roster spot so we can add a Cooper Pulleur, James Atoe,or Taylor Hindy at the last minute.
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I heard that the impetus for this is actually from Wilcox & Sirmon and what they learned while in the SEC. Their thought is if the Alabama's of the world do this then we have to do it to keep up.bananasnblondes said:In all honesty, though, I fully support this move,even if the kids wanted to keep playing. None of these guys would be playing much next year and are just dead weight on the roster. If it got to the point that, due to injuries, we would have to play any of these guys for major minutes then we are fucked. Might as well clear up a roster spot so we can add a Cooper Pulleur, James Atoe,or Taylor Hindy at the last minute.
Too bad for Campbell who got passed over by more talented guys. He physically looked to have a made a big improvement coming into this year. Hudson is definitely the most curious. Maybe he just doesn't fit in anymore. -
Look again at what Hudson did in 2011 and 2012:
2012: Earned honorable mention All-Pac-12 ... started every game at defensive end ... earned the team's L. Wait Rising Defensive Lineman of the Year at the postseason banquet ... also won the team's Lifting Award for defense ... recorded three tackles and a sack vs. SDSU ... career-high seven tackles in start at No. 3 LSU ... three tackles, including a sack, at Oregon ... two tackles vs. No. 11 USC ... also had two stops at Arizona ... five tackles, including one and a half sacks, in the win at California ... two tackles in win over Oregon State ... posted four tackles, including two for loss and a sack, in the win over Utah ... notched a sack in the win at Colorado ... made four tackles, including a sack, at Washington State ... season-high nine tackles vs. Boise State in the bowl game, where he also had half of a tackle for loss.
Link. I know Wilcox likes some younger guys along the D-line. But you can't tell me a guy like Hudson can't help a team like UW. Total fucking head-scratcher.
2011: Played in all 13 games as a redshirt freshman, earning two starts (USC and Oregon State) at one defensive end spot ... posted three tackles, including a sack, and forced a fumble in the Alamo Bowl vs. Baylor ... season-best four tackles at Oregon State ... three tackles, including one and a half sacks, in the Apple Cup win over Washington State ... two tackles, including one and a half for loss and one sack, in the win over Arizona ... two tackles, one for a loss, vs. Hawai'i ... three tackles plus a fumble recovery vs. Oregon ... two stops each at USC and at Nebraska. -
it will help to balance the recruiting classes. The small size of this class should not be replicated. I support the move.
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Campbell's a strange choice too. Not because he's a world-beater (he's not). But just because UW's 2014 WR depth chart looks surprisingly thin and undersized. Weird, given Seven's recruiting predilections. But still.
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WTF happened to Hudson. A strong case could be made he was out best D lineman outside of Shelton last year.
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Or at least rotate in. Now he only plays in garbage time. Strange.IrishDawg22 said:WTF happened to Hudson. A strong case could be made he was out best D lineman outside of Shelton last year. I thought he could be more effective that Shirley or Littleton opposite Kikaha.
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I don't know, I don't think we're that thin. It could be better, but it's not awful.TTJ said:Campbell's a strange choice too. Not because he's a world-beater (he's not). But just because UW's 2014 WR depth chart looks surprisingly thin and undersized. Weird, given Seven's recruiting predilections. But still.
16 Hall, Marvin WR 5-10 182 So. Los Angeles, Calif. / Dorsey
4 Mickens, Jaydon WR 5-10 170 So. Los Angeles, Calif. / Dorsey
86 Parson, Taelon WR 6-1 185 Fr. Gilbert, Ariz. / Perry
1 Ross, John WR 5-11 173 Fr. Long Beach, Calif. / Long Beach Jordan
83 Salukhe, Neel WR 5-10 149 RFr. San Jose, Calif. / The Harker School
81 Salyer, Wesley WR 5-9 172 So. Puyallup, Wash. / Rogers
9 Stringfellow, Damore'ea WR 6-3 225 Fr. Perris, Calif. / Rancho Verde
2 Williams, Kasen WR 6-2 212 Jr. Sammamish, Wash. / Skyline
Obviously some of those are Walk-ons. Kasen and Stringfellow give us some size; Mickens, Hall, and Ross are all undersized. Rahshead Johnson is commited, and he's the same size as Kevin Smith. Smith is pretty much the only contributor that's leaving, and Stringfellow can probably replace him assuming Kasen is healthy in time for the start of the year. We'll probably pick up another WR to finish out the class. If we really need the size, Darrell Daniels is essentially a TE/WR hybrid, although I think I'd rather see what he can do on defense. Perkins is in that same mold. I think SS'ing Campbell means that Sark would rather use Perkins in that type of bigger receiver role. There's also Kendyl Taylor, but who knows what's going on with him at this point. -
Kim swore we wouldn't be taking more than 15 in this class.
Kim's perfect season remains intact. -
We gotta get rid of Campbell so Sark can justify taking 4 WR's this year. The script calls for 4 WR's every recruiting class. It's odd that Hudson can't at least rotate in and be a contributor after being a two year starter. Maybe he wants to play at another school so he can actually start. Kearse is no loss. I hope Tupou, Finau, and a few others depart as well.
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The longer they're here, the worse they get.RoadDawg55 said:We gotta get rid of Campbell so Sark can justify taking 4 WR's this year. The script calls for 4 WR's every recruiting class. It's odd that Hudson can't at least rotate in and be a contributor after being a two year starter. Maybe he wants to play at another school so he can actually start. Kearse is no loss. I hope Tupou, Finau, and a few others depart as well.
LRR
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Another thing to rub in KimFS's face. He said this class would be small maybe 13 or 14. There's 16 scholarship players leaving. Sankey and ASJ makes 18. You know more players will leave/get forced out as well, and 1 or 2 recruits won't qualify. We will take at least 20.
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The fact you've included a 149-lb walk-on in this list pretty much tells the tale. Ross will probably play defense next year. UW will be lucky if Kasen is 80% by August -- Lisfranc recoveries take forever. Basically, its Mickens, String, and Hall. And maybe Taylor, who's really a better fit at RB.uw2010 said:
I don't know, I don't think we're that thin. It could be better, but it's not awful.TTJ said:Campbell's a strange choice too. Not because he's a world-beater (he's not). But just because UW's 2014 WR depth chart looks surprisingly thin and undersized. Weird, given Seven's recruiting predilections. But still.
16 Hall, Marvin WR 5-10 182 So. Los Angeles, Calif. / Dorsey
4 Mickens, Jaydon WR 5-10 170 So. Los Angeles, Calif. / Dorsey
86 Parson, Taelon WR 6-1 185 Fr. Gilbert, Ariz. / Perry
1 Ross, John WR 5-11 173 Fr. Long Beach, Calif. / Long Beach Jordan
83 Salukhe, Neel WR 5-10 149 RFr. San Jose, Calif. / The Harker School
81 Salyer, Wesley WR 5-9 172 So. Puyallup, Wash. / Rogers
9 Stringfellow, Damore'ea WR 6-3 225 Fr. Perris, Calif. / Rancho Verde
2 Williams, Kasen WR 6-2 212 Jr. Sammamish, Wash. / Skyline
Obviously some of those are Walk-ons. Kasen and Stringfellow give us some size; Mickens, Hall, and Ross are all undersized. Rahshead Johnson is commited, and he's the same size as Kevin Smith. Smith is pretty much the only contributor that's leaving, and Stringfellow can probably replace him assuming Kasen is healthy in time for the start of the year. We'll probably pick up another WR to finish out the class. If we really need the size, Darrell Daniels is essentially a TE/WR hybrid, although I think I'd rather see what he can do on defense. Perkins is in that same mold. I think SS'ing Campbell means that Sark would rather use Perkins in that type of bigger receiver role. There's also Kendyl Taylor, but who knows what's going on with him at this point. -
Hudson is odd, but has not been as in favor this year. Perhaps because they burned a few redshirts in mid season, they think the young ones will be better options next year. Most teams prefer upperclassmen who have built up strength and know the system....
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You tell me? I recall you telling everyone on here that players don't regress under Sarkisian when we all correctly predicted that Shirley/Feeney would regress this year.IrishDawg22 said:WTF happened to Hudson. A strong case could be made he was out best D lineman outside of Shelton last year.
I thought he could be more effective than Shirley or Littleton opposite Kikaha. -
Does Keith Price count?
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It's a reality among programs that want to compete at the highest levels, and is common in the SEC. I'm not surprised it is Wilcox and Sirmon driving the bus on this. What's that say about the head coach?HeretoBeatmyChest said:
I heard that the impetus for this is actually from Wilcox & Sirmon and what they learned while in the SEC. Their thought is if the Alabama's of the world do this then we have to do it to keep up.bananasnblondes said:In all honesty, though, I fully support this move,even if the kids wanted to keep playing. None of these guys would be playing much next year and are just dead weight on the roster. If it got to the point that, due to injuries, we would have to play any of these guys for major minutes then we are fucked. Might as well clear up a roster spot so we can add a Cooper Pulleur, James Atoe,or Taylor Hindy at the last minute.
Too bad for Campbell who got passed over by more talented guys. He physically looked to have a made a big improvement coming into this year. Hudson is definitely the most curious. Maybe he just doesn't fit in anymore.
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Please provide ONE post where I ever said "players don't regress" under Sark. As I recall, it was the thread where you said "NO" players progress and I provided some examples of players who actually got better.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You tell me? I recall you telling everyone on here that players don't regress under Sarkisian when we all correctly predicted that Shirley/Feeney would regress this year.IrishDawg22 said:WTF happened to Hudson. A strong case could be made he was out best D lineman outside of Shelton last year.
I thought he could be more effective than Shirley or Littleton opposite Kikaha.
That was your now famous Jordan Polk comparison.
You could be a decent poster if you didn't paint with such a broad brush. -
The only thing that makes sense on Hudson is that he just wants the fuck out. I can't figure it out otherwise.
I've been calling for Campbell to get the door-ass-out for a couple of years now. Apparently he was too well liked so they kept him long enough to graduate. I think WR will be OK. We're going to see some drops but that's nothing new and not something Campbell would have helped with anyways.
Gotta assume Shelton is leaving town. Finau and Tupou seemed like prime candidates for door-ass-out but the sad reality is UW has zero bodies big enough to play interior DL outside of those two (which is a stretch) and Qualls (assuming he's fattened up enough by next fall). We're fucked at DT. -
It was also the same thread where I said Feeney would regress. To be fair I was wrong on that as Feeney is good just the coaches for whatever don't like playing him.IrishDawg22 said:
Please provide ONE post where I ever said "players don't regress" under Sark. As I recall, it was the thread where you said "NO" players progress and I provided some examples of players who actually got better.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You tell me? I recall you telling everyone on here that players don't regress under Sarkisian when we all correctly predicted that Shirley/Feeney would regress this year.IrishDawg22 said:WTF happened to Hudson. A strong case could be made he was out best D lineman outside of Shelton last year.
I thought he could be more effective than Shirley or Littleton opposite Kikaha.
That was your now famous Jordan Polk comparison.
You could be a decent poster if you didn't paint with such a broad brush.
I don't understand why he doesn't play more. He's easily our best LB.
As for Josh Shirley? He is the king of regression.
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