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Maybe it’s a generational thing, but if you’re a highly sought after West Coast recruit and you think you’re a bad ass, why wouldn’t you go to UW right now? You’d play in the CFP, you’d improve your draft chances, and you’d be encouraged to absolutely stone people. Why is it “it’s hard” when it comes to recruiting here? Why did Mique Juarez and
Marlon Tuliputootooaloopoopoo dis us? Why wasn’t Fozzy Folsom Street Bear not shamed into UW? Why can’t we get a stud pass rusher on scholarship?
Marlon Tuliputootooaloopoopoo dis us? Why wasn’t Fozzy Folsom Street Bear not shamed into UW? Why can’t we get a stud pass rusher on scholarship?
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Kids are really stupid. Think about how stupid most adults you know are and then take away the life experience and finished-developing brains.
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Watching Victor attempt to murder Phil triggered this rant. How could you not want to play this style of football and get to stay on the west coast?Mad_Son said:Kids are really stupid. Think about how stupid most adults you know are and then take away the life experience and finished-developing brains.
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Sum elite talent no want play skoolz.
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Being a shit program for 15 years does not help.
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Exactly. These kids were growing up in a world where UW sucked. The recruits of today were 9 or so when we? went 0-12. UW being good is pretty new to them.WeakarmCobra said:Being a shit program for 15 years does not help.
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When trying too hard to fit in goes horribly wrong.
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It's because high schools/parents are terrible these days and tell kids to do whatever you want and go wherever you want and it doesn't matter. If you try hard you will succeed.
So kids latch onto shit like jersey colors and fall for used car salesmen pitches because parents are fucking dumb. -
Also think of it this way... nothing about UW was cool in any way, shape, or form when these kids were growing up. We've only been an elite program again for 1 year. Hell I graduated high school in 2013 and barely knew shit about UW football because they were so irrelevant.jhfstyle24 said:
Exactly. These kids were growing up in a world where UW sucked. The recruits of today were 9 or so when we? went 0-12. UW being good is pretty new to them.WeakarmCobra said:Being a shit program for 15 years does not help.
Meanwhile... USC is USC. And when you look at a team like Oregon, despite how easy it is for us to laugh about their 100000 uniform combinations, that kind of stuff is EXACTLY what middle school age kids find cool and edgy. The class of 2018 was in middle school and early high school while Oregon was dominant from 2010-14, which makes those kids (like Tre'Shaun) fall in love with Oregon and dream about playing for Oregon when they grow up... not UW.
And like @Mad_Son said... kids are really stupid. It's harder for them to think about a college choice logically and get over their biases for USC and Oregon and others like that. So even though UW may be a better option, and a lot of kids like Elijah Molden see that, many are still drawn to those schools that were popular and cool while they grew up. -
First of all, I think they're all stupid. I agree with everything you said. Regardless, here is my guess.
sarrell was enamored with stanford for a long time. They have a reputation as being the best OL school on the west coast. It's going to take a while to overcome that. Remember that UW only had one good season (last year) before he had to choose a school. By that time it was too late.
marlon is a lying sack of sh*t.
The edge pass rusher thing really pisses me off. I don't get how we whiff on so many guys. But I think the reason is that DL is arguably the hardest and MOST IMPORTANT position to recruit so there is a lot of competition for those players. AND, we don't grow a lot of stellar DLs in the State of Washington. We often have to go and get them elsewhere.
Three years ago Petersen made one of the smartest statements I've heard from him (and he's said a lot of smart things): "Bringing it (UW) back to a championship level will be dictated by our ability to recruit and to develop defensive linemen..."
Link: espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17795637/washington-huskies-turnaround-plan-success-chris-petersen
I think we can consistently get great players at every position, but I guess it's going to take a little more time.
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If I was an elite high school recruit out of California and knowing what I know now with my life experience I would go to UW in a heartbeat. My 17-18 year old self? UW would probably be 4th or 5th on my list.
With that being said I pretty much agree with what everyone else has been saying. Parents telling kids to do what they want.. parents not existing in their kids life.. UW not being relevant nationally.. party life over football and/or education.. edginess over self growth.. listening to coaches recruiting lies vs. observing the the truth of the program with their own eyes.. the list goes on.
I think these questions relate a lot to another.. Why do programs like UCLA and Tennessee recruit top level talent and continue to struggle immensely with on the field performance? -
Again, there are smoking hot chicks and fucking ugly ones at every public university.
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I think we can consistently get great players at every position, but I guess it's going to take a little more time.
I hear everyone on the coeds, the we? sucked forever, and I used those guys as examples of recruiting losses, but we have Petersen who all these kids know, and we’re getting ridiculous (for UW) attention from kids from TX who should have zero natural interest in UW. You have straight up maulers in Bolton and Curne committed (for now), and Togiagi from fucking ID can’t see the writing on the wall? He shouldn’t fucking require Malloe to explain it. Watching Virta bench press his guy into the punter or AZ 187 on Phil from accounting or guys getting drafted into the league should be enough -
I don't get the hand wringing. We are getting more and more of our #1 targets every year and the kids we don't get either go to USC, were recruited by Malloe, or both.
But I'm hearing the kids are being idiots and burning lots of bridges out there...don't twist... -
what bridges?FremontTroll said:I don't get the hand wringing. We are getting more and more of our #1 targets every year and the kids we don't get either go to USC, were recruited by Malloe, or both.
But I'm hearing the kids are being idiots and burning lots of bridges out there...don't twist... -
I bet she throws in a fucking monster dip and takes a massive shit every morningRubberfist said:When trying too hard to fit in goes horribly wrong.
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fat chicks give good head brahJECAR said:
I bet she throws in a fucking monster dip and takes a massive shit every morningRubberfist said:When trying too hard to fit in goes horribly wrong.
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Get in chat tomorrow. Can't put most of what I know out here on the boards...phone ringing brb.WeakarmCobra said:
what bridges?FremontTroll said:I don't get the hand wringing. We are getting more and more of our #1 targets every year and the kids we don't get either go to USC, were recruited by Malloe, or both.
But I'm hearing the kids are being idiots and burning lots of bridges out there...don't twist... -
keep working them phonesFremontTroll said:
Get in chat tomorrow. Can't put most of what I know out here on the boards...phone ringing brb.WeakarmCobra said:
what bridges?FremontTroll said:I don't get the hand wringing. We are getting more and more of our #1 targets every year and the kids we don't get either go to USC, were recruited by Malloe, or both.
But I'm hearing the kids are being idiots and burning lots of bridges out there...don't twist... -
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I think Petersen whole schtick is against people who want to be recruited and think they've already arrived (as he's said many times). He tells them they're going to have to work their ass off and earn it. Contrast that with schools treating these kids like they're a finished product and everything will be easy, and everyone likes the sound of the easy route.
The more proof points of wins and NFL drafts will help but I always think we'll be frustrated that we should be getting more. Thankfully we'll always over perform. -
I know we have holes in this class (like DL, fuck you Malloe), but on the whole won't this be one of the best classes (per player) we have ever signed?
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Stop trying to put things into perspective, Swaye, this is a place for people to freak out.Swaye said:I know we have holes in this class (like DL, fuck you Malloe), but on the whole won't this be one of the best classes (per player) we have ever signed?
But to sort of answer your Q: Our class was ranked #22 in the nation LAST year (going by the 247 composite rankings) with 18 kids in the class.
Now let's say we keep all our current commits, minus Victor Krum, and add Kyler Gordon, Julius Irvin (pls), Caleb Tremblay, Josiah Bradley, Cade Beresford, Zion and Dick Noot, for a total of 19. Keep in mind I have no idea how big this class will be and I'm too lazy to figure it out. Coker?
Anyway, that would put the class at a 234.25 rating in 247's system, using their class calculator, which would have been the #10 ranked class in last year's rankings (again this is composite rankings).
This is all pretty speculative, of course, but that's a fairly realistic class right now, and yeah, it would be pretty good.
That being said, fire everyone. -
Because you're UW. Kids didn't grow up thinking you're cool. You have 1 or 2 sets of uniforms and that's it. Always the same helmets. Boring shit really. Where west coast teams are concerned, they grew up thinking Oregon was cool, and that's one of the reasons why Oregon is sitting pretty in the top 10 recruiting classes of 2018 and UW is on the outside looking in. Of course the coaches will need more time to get their own guys in there, but the results will speak for themselves in a year or two.AEB said:Maybe it’s a generational thing, but if you’re a highly sought after West Coast recruit and you think you’re a bad ass, why wouldn’t you go to UW right now? You’d play in the CFP, you’d improve your draft chances, and you’d be encouraged to absolutely stone people. Why is it “it’s hard” when it comes to recruiting here? Why did Mique Juarez and
Marlon Tuliputootooaloopoopoo dis us? Why wasn’t Fozzy Folsom Street Bear not shamed into UW? Why can’t we get a stud pass rusher on scholarship? -
Last time I was in Montlake I couldn't even find a place to turn left, let alone park
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Good post. I have zero faith we land Tremblay, because Malloe.NorwegianHusky said:
Stop trying to put things into perspective, Swaye, this is a place for people to freak out.Swaye said:I know we have holes in this class (like DL, fuck you Malloe), but on the whole won't this be one of the best classes (per player) we have ever signed?
But to sort of answer your Q: Our class was ranked #22 in the nation LAST year (going by the 247 composite rankings) with 18 kids in the class.
Now let's say we keep all our current commits, minus Victor Krum, and add Kyler Gordon, Julius Irvin (pls), Caleb Tremblay, Josiah Bradley, Cade Beresford, Zion and Dick Noot, for a total of 19. Keep in mind I have no idea how big this class will be and I'm too lazy to figure it out. Coker?
Anyway, that would put the class at a 234.25 rating in 247's system, using their class calculator, which would have been the #10 ranked class in last year's rankings (again this is composite rankings).
This is all pretty speculative, of course, but that's a fairly realistic class right now, and yeah, it would be pretty good.
That being said, fire everyone. -
You're forgetting that everyone will decommit before signing day and we will be left with @theciscoshow's kid for next year as the only HS player in America who even knows what UW football is.Swaye said:I know we have holes in this class (like DL, fuck you Malloe), but on the whole won't this be one of the best classes (per player) we have ever signed?
