Mora Proponents
1) Why would he abandon a very lucrative contract, I think around $2,000,000.00 for about the same salary?
2) Why would he return to the UW when it has a completely different cast of characters than when he played here? Not to mention, he is hardly even going to be in the same facilities. Hardly anything at all remains from his era save the Montlake overpass.
3) Why, after recruiting heavily and seemingly well for UCLA, would he put himself in the position to coach against his recruits?
4) Why, when it is so difficult to be a successful head football coach, after he has found success in a high profile, top notch program, would he abandon it?
5) Why would he return to a metropolitan area in which 99% of football fans remember him exclusively for being a fired, middling Seahawks coach?
6) And the big question is: Does anybody really believe that having played for Don James and going to the UW will result in a better performance than another candidate?
I WANT ANSWERS! I don't want bombs and bullshit. You keep posting Mora this, Mora that, but you are living in fantasyland.
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So you're saying he's doing such a good job at UCLA that he'll never come here but we shouldn't want him anyway because he played for James
You're fucking retarded on this issue, dude. IMALOSER territory -
Should have made a tl;dr disclaimer at the end "He has a CONTRACT!"
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well, look, you think like a fan, but it is not connected to what looks like reality.RaceBannon said:So you're saying he's doing such a good job at UCLA that he'll never come here but we shouldn't want him anyway because he played for James
You're fucking retarded on this issue, dude. IMALOSER territory
Queens to queens level six. -
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I'm with you, actually. I think the Mora-to-UW ship has sailed. You know who played for and got their start in coaching at the University of Oregon?
Jim McKay.
You know who else?
John Robinson.
And...
George Seifert.
And...
Chris Petersen.
I don't think any of those guys think of themselves as Ducks anymore. I think that if Mora makes a name for himself coaching at UCLA, he's gonna be a Bruin FO LIFE. -
1. If UW isn't going to beat that contract then we won't be hiring anybody worth a damn. $2 million is nothing special for a coach in the post Pac12 TV contract world.
I assume UW should be able to pay him $3 to $3.5 million per year, easily. And based on what we've seen of late, UW will give him much more money to pay assistants than he's been given at UCLA.
2. WTF does this have to do with anything? I left Seattle in 95, hardly anything is the same. Mariners have a new stadium, Seahawks have a new stadium, Sonics no longer exist, Huskies have a rebuilt stadium. None of that means I no longer want to return. Jake Almighty man, the dude lived in the city two years ago. He grew up in Seattle. This is the dumbest question on a list of dumb questions.
3. Because a) money talks b) he loves his alma mater and c) he knows with USC set to return to dominance in LA, Washington has greater long term potential than UCLA does.
4. You keep asking the same question in different ways. People leave successful jobs for more money all the time.
5. Because he loves this metro area? Because he wants to change his reputation in this metro area? Because most people realize he only had one year with the Seahawks? BECAUSE HE"S FROM HERE?
6. No. We've answered this for you a million times. There's a reason we're not hot to trot for Gary Pinkel. There's a reason no other Don James connected coach or UW alum ever appears on any of our lists. We're not after Mora because he's a UW alum.
There's your answers. I'm sure you'll still be PeopleMuncherFS enough to ignore all of them and keep cursing the imaginary chasing of the ghost of Don James. -
Preamble: your premise is flawed. nobody with any credibility on this board has argued that he's coming. that's a prediction. people who favor Mora just want him, and some of them suppose he wants to be here. very different positions. but i'll play anyway.ApostleofGrief said:What I don't understand about you guys who think Mora is headed up here can be narrowed down to these questions:
1) Why would he abandon a very lucrative contract, I think around $2,000,000.00 for about the same salary?
2) Why would he return to the UW when it has a completely different cast of characters than when he played here? Not to mention, he is hardly even going to be in the same facilities. Hardly anything at all remains from his era save the Montlake overpass.
3) Why, after recruiting heavily and seemingly well for UCLA, would he put himself in the position to coach against his recruits?
4) Why, when it is so difficult to be a successful head football coach, after he has found success in a high profile, top notch program, would he abandon it?
5) Why would he return to a metropolitan area in which 99% of football fans remember him exclusively for being a fired, middling Seahawks coach?
6) And the big question is: Does anybody really believe that having played for Don James and going to the UW will result in a better performance than another candidate?
I WANT ANSWERS! I don't want bombs and bullshit. You keep posting Mora this, Mora that, but you are living in fantasyland.
1. for less than or equal to the same? maybe he wouldn't. for more? maybe he would.
2. that's irrelevant. why does Michael Irvin and 50 other ex-Hurricanes flash the U and go down there every chance they can get to try and help that program return to relevancy? why do they care? the cast of characters has changed.
3. that's just part of the gig. if that kept people from moving, nobody would ever move.
4. good question. maybe he wouldn't. nobody but him really knows.
5. something tells me Mora doesn't have the same desperate need to be liked as Sark does. something also tells me Mora probably doesn't give two shyts what people on the Sammamish Plateau think about anything.
6. no. they think he can coach, and based on what he's doing with UCLA, it appears they may be right. I was one who thought he'd never be able to stomach the recruiting process and that he'd be shitty at it. it appears I was wrong.
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I've been clear that 2007 was the time. That was the moment. We need a new coach now and he is unlikely. Get the fuck over it
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who has credibility on this bored?creepycoug said:
Preamble: your premise is flawed. nobody with any credibility on this board has argued that he's coming. that's a prediction. people who favor Mora just want him, and some of them suppose he wants to be here. very different positions. but i'll play anyway.ApostleofGrief said:What I don't understand about you guys who think Mora is headed up here can be narrowed down to these questions:
1) Why would he abandon a very lucrative contract, I think around $2,000,000.00 for about the same salary?
2) Why would he return to the UW when it has a completely different cast of characters than when he played here? Not to mention, he is hardly even going to be in the same facilities. Hardly anything at all remains from his era save the Montlake overpass.
3) Why, after recruiting heavily and seemingly well for UCLA, would he put himself in the position to coach against his recruits?
4) Why, when it is so difficult to be a successful head football coach, after he has found success in a high profile, top notch program, would he abandon it?
5) Why would he return to a metropolitan area in which 99% of football fans remember him exclusively for being a fired, middling Seahawks coach?
6) And the big question is: Does anybody really believe that having played for Don James and going to the UW will result in a better performance than another candidate?
I WANT ANSWERS! I don't want bombs and bullshit. You keep posting Mora this, Mora that, but you are living in fantasyland.
1. for less than or equal to the same? maybe he wouldn't. for more? maybe he would.
2. that's irrelevant. why does Michael Irvin and 50 other ex-Hurricanes flash the U and go down there every chance they can get to try and help that program return to relevancy? why do they care? the cast of characters has changed.
3. that's just part of the gig. if that kept people from moving, nobody would ever move.
4. good question. maybe he wouldn't. nobody but him really knows.
5. something tells me Mora doesn't have the same desperate need to be liked as Sark does. something also tells me Mora probably doesn't give two shyts what people on the Sammamish Plateau think about anything.
6. no. they think he can coach, and based on what he's doing with UCLA, it appears they may be right. I was one who thought he'd never be able to stomach the recruiting process and that he'd be shitty at it. it appears I was wrong.
Most posters here, Huskie fans, see Mora as a savior and secretly hope he will arrive and recreate the Don James era. They aren't interested much in the problems with the idea. They aren't going to come out and say that, but it is not hard to read between the lines. -
I think he's saying that because Mora is doing such a good job at UCLA, there's no reason to think that he would do a good job at UW, even if he wanted to, which he doesn't. Lots of convolution to pack into six questions, but the interrogator WANTS ANSWERS which, of course, means that he doesn't.RaceBannon said:So you're saying he's doing such a good job at UCLA that he'll never come here but we shouldn't want him anyway because he played for James
You're fucking retarded on this issue, dude. IMALOSER territory
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Considering that Mora turned down our offer in 2008, coupled with the success he's had at UCLA so far, I don't think he'd come to UW either, unless we at least doubled his salary. Not so much that he needs the money, because I doubt he does after the ATL/SEA buyouts, but that it would give him a legit reason publicly to make the move.
My hunch is Chianti Dan will fuck it up eventually and Mora will end up back in the NFL as a HC someday.
With that being said, I still think Mora is the 1st guy you contact, just to cover your bases. You never know until you ask.
Then, I would offer Tim DeRuyter the job immediately.
