A brief history of the only successful nation building exercises in US History
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You're probably not a good fit for the Higher Level History Discussion Bored. Best stick to the Flight Attendant Fancy Feast Bored.Pitchfork51 said:Talk about an aids riddled thread
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Absofuckinglutely. My FOB in Iraq was in the Diyala river valley (a tributary of the Tigris) and the towns that were nearby (Khalis, Baqubah, Muqtadiyah) are some of the oldest towns on the planet.YellowSnow said:
So you're saying we should feel even less sorry for the Mesopotanians given that they got a head start of thousands of years on all the other tribes? Shit they should have flying cars by now in like a Jetsons type of Babylon.RaceBannon said:The Euphrates and the Tigris are the cradle of civilization
Every time it rained the place smelled like actual shit. Not just the FOB, but everywhere around, for miles. It occurred to me that these fuckwits have been shitting on the river bank for over 6000 years, with no indoor plumbing or sewage treatment in sight (either then, now, or anytime in the future). The dark color of the mud caused me to realize that the entire place was built on and of shit.
Don't even get me started on Iraqi barbecue, where the main delicacy is the bottom-feeding giant carp that swim in the local rivers.
TL, DR: fuck those guys -
My wife, whose looks are much more useful than her brain has the same opinion on the Swayes. They were here for thousands of years and they never got past the hunter/gatherer, living near an open water source stage.AZDuck said:
Absofuckinglutely. My FOB in Iraq was in the Diyala river valley (a tributary of the Tigris) and the towns that were nearby (Khalis, Baqubah, Muqtadiyah) are some of the oldest towns on the planet.YellowSnow said:
So you're saying we should feel even less sorry for the Mesopotanians given that they got a head start of thousands of years on all the other tribes? Shit they should have flying cars by now in like a Jetsons type of Babylon.RaceBannon said:The Euphrates and the Tigris are the cradle of civilization
Every time it rained the place smelled like actual shit. Not just the FOB, but everywhere around, for miles. It occurred to me that these fuckwits have been shitting on the river bank for over 6000 years, with no indoor plumbing or sewage treatment in sight (either then, now, or anytime in the future). The dark color of the mud caused me to realize that the entire place was built on and of shit.
Don't even get me started on Iraqi barbecue, where the main delicacy is the bottom-feeding giant carp that swim in the local rivers.
TL, DR: fuck those guys
Had they been a little more advanced we probably wouldn't have had to break Rule #1 of HH. You can't build a civilization the world will envy if a part of the citizens shit on the floor. -
I feel we are more like monkeys throwing shit at each other here at HH as opposed to floor shitters.Mosster47 said:
My wife, whose looks are much more useful than her brain has the same opinion on the Swayes. They were here for thousands of years and they never got past the hunter/gatherer, living near an open water source stage.AZDuck said:
Absofuckinglutely. My FOB in Iraq was in the Diyala river valley (a tributary of the Tigris) and the towns that were nearby (Khalis, Baqubah, Muqtadiyah) are some of the oldest towns on the planet.YellowSnow said:
So you're saying we should feel even less sorry for the Mesopotanians given that they got a head start of thousands of years on all the other tribes? Shit they should have flying cars by now in like a Jetsons type of Babylon.RaceBannon said:The Euphrates and the Tigris are the cradle of civilization
Every time it rained the place smelled like actual shit. Not just the FOB, but everywhere around, for miles. It occurred to me that these fuckwits have been shitting on the river bank for over 6000 years, with no indoor plumbing or sewage treatment in sight (either then, now, or anytime in the future). The dark color of the mud caused me to realize that the entire place was built on and of shit.
Don't even get me started on Iraqi barbecue, where the main delicacy is the bottom-feeding giant carp that swim in the local rivers.
TL, DR: fuck those guys
Had they been a little more advanced we probably wouldn't have had to break Rule #1 of HH. You can't build a civilization the world will envy if a part of the citizens shit on the floor. -
We only successfully nation build when we have killed them until they don't want to be killed anymore. Bombed the place flat and then dictated the unconditional terms. Has our country become so soft we can't wage a proper war anymore?
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Simple: We haven't fought an existential threat type of war against a elite opponent in 7 plus decades. Everything since has been war for more abstract reasons with limited aims, and (necessary) political considerations. Doesn't have anything to do with being soft. The war plan for the USSR wouldn't have been soft and limited.Sledog said:We only successfully nation build when we have killed them until they don't want to be killed anymore. Bombed the place flat and then dictated the unconditional terms. Has our country become so soft we can't wage a proper war anymore?
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YkwMosster47 said:
My wife, whose looks are much more useful than her brain has the same opinion on the Swayes. They were here for thousands of years and they never got past the hunter/gatherer, living near an open water source stage.AZDuck said:
Absofuckinglutely. My FOB in Iraq was in the Diyala river valley (a tributary of the Tigris) and the towns that were nearby (Khalis, Baqubah, Muqtadiyah) are some of the oldest towns on the planet.YellowSnow said:
So you're saying we should feel even less sorry for the Mesopotanians given that they got a head start of thousands of years on all the other tribes? Shit they should have flying cars by now in like a Jetsons type of Babylon.RaceBannon said:The Euphrates and the Tigris are the cradle of civilization
Every time it rained the place smelled like actual shit. Not just the FOB, but everywhere around, for miles. It occurred to me that these fuckwits have been shitting on the river bank for over 6000 years, with no indoor plumbing or sewage treatment in sight (either then, now, or anytime in the future). The dark color of the mud caused me to realize that the entire place was built on and of shit.
Don't even get me started on Iraqi barbecue, where the main delicacy is the bottom-feeding giant carp that swim in the local rivers.
TL, DR: fuck those guys
Had they been a little more advanced we probably wouldn't have had to break Rule #1 of HH. You can't build a civilization the world will envy if a part of the citizens shit on the floor. -
Disagree.YellowSnow said:
Simple: We haven't fought an existential threat type of war against a elite opponent in 7 plus decades. Everything since has been war for more abstract reasons with limited aims, and (necessary) political considerations. Doesn't have anything to do with being soft. The war plan for the USSR wouldn't have been soft and limited.Sledog said:We only successfully nation build when we have killed them until they don't want to be killed anymore. Bombed the place flat and then dictated the unconditional terms. Has our country become so soft we can't wage a proper war anymore?
We can't even train sailors how to avoid a floating skyscraper. While the USSR engages in real training like in how to efficiently kill people. Our forces play grabass during gender sensitivity training. -
Fixed.salemcoog said:
Disagree.YellowSnow said:
Simple: We haven't fought an existential threat type of war against a elite opponent in 7 plus decades. Everything since has been war for more abstract reasons with limited aims, and (necessary) political considerations. Doesn't have anything to do with being soft. The war plan for the USSR wouldn't have been soft and limited.Sledog said:We only successfully nation build when we have killed them until they don't want to be killed anymore. Bombed the place flat and then dictated the unconditional terms. Has our country become so soft we can't wage a proper war anymore?
We can't even train sailors how to avoid a floating skyscraper. While theUSSRRussian Empire engages in real training like in how to efficiently kill people. Our forces play grabass during gender sensitivity training.
Our Navy ships have been crashing into shit for hundreds of years; this is no big deal. While it's true Russia has some kick ass artillery and SAM systems and what not, we still by far have the most lethal fighting force in the world. -
The USSR?salemcoog said:
Disagree.YellowSnow said:
Simple: We haven't fought an existential threat type of war against a elite opponent in 7 plus decades. Everything since has been war for more abstract reasons with limited aims, and (necessary) political considerations. Doesn't have anything to do with being soft. The war plan for the USSR wouldn't have been soft and limited.Sledog said:We only successfully nation build when we have killed them until they don't want to be killed anymore. Bombed the place flat and then dictated the unconditional terms. Has our country become so soft we can't wage a proper war anymore?
We can't even train sailors how to avoid a floating skyscraper. While the USSR engages in real training like in how to efficiently kill people. Our forces play grabass during gender sensitivity training.






