Game Theory: Climate Change Edition
If the science is BS, and we try to "fix" things, we waste some money but we are fine.
If the science is real, and we do something, we give ourselves a chance to keep on keeping on.
If the science is real, and we do nothing, humanity is in serious trouble.
Those are the 4 options. Regardless of your beliefs or politics, it seems like trying to fix things is the preferable outcome.
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The royal we.
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There is so much wrong with the assumptions not sure where to start. Let's apply the same logic and Bruce Willis it. The planet has actually been hit by an asteroid before and destroyed most life on it...there is precedent for it.
If the threat is fake and we do nothing, we are fine.
If the threat is fake and we do something, we waste some money.
If the threat is real and we do nothing, humanity is in serious trouble.
If the threat is real and we do something, we give ourselves a chance.
Regardless of your beliefs it seems like trying to fix something is the preferable outcome. So we should be sinking a ton of money into spaceship, telescopes, space stations, etc.
You can make that logic game theory and always come out with the answer that you should spend a ton of money fixing any and every problem somebody might maybe be worried about just in case...the only problem is, nobody has a ton of money sitting around.
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Fremont is College Doog.
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So let's just do nothing then.HoustonHusky said:There is so much wrong with the assumptions not sure where to start. Let's apply the same logic and Bruce Willis it. The planet has actually been hit by an asteroid before and destroyed most life on it...there is precedent for it.
If the threat is fake and we do nothing, we are fine.
If the threat is fake and we do something, we waste some money.
If the threat is real and we do nothing, humanity is in serious trouble.
If the threat is real and we do something, we give ourselves a chance.
Regardless of your beliefs it seems like trying to fix something is the preferable outcome. So we should be sinking a ton of money into spaceship, telescopes, space stations, etc.
You can make that logic game theory and always come out with the answer that you should spend a ton of money fixing any and every problem somebody might maybe be worried about just in case...the only problem is, nobody has a ton of money sitting around. -
Ok WhitneyHouston. Your whole premise is that you don't want to reduce pollution/emissions because of the cost to the manufacturer, which will then get passed on to you. In essence, you are saying you don't want to personally pay for some fairy tale.
Ok, now let's look at a real world example. The last 6 months, the one thing Trump has done is he's scaled back regulations, coal producers can now dump raw sewage into Rivers again (that's true freedom right there) and we pulled out of the Paris Accord and Trump wants to gut the EPA.
In your theory world, the price of utilities and manufactured goods should be going down then. Or at least not increasing anymore as regulations are being rolled back.
Now.... Let's look at prices the last 6 months, what have they done???
Fawk you are such a blinded shill. -
The trouble with you smug, progressive fascists is that you can easily change your behavior to fit your conviction dejour but, you don't. Instead you spend all this time and energy trying to get others to force me to change my behavior.2001400ex said:
So let's just do nothing then.HoustonHusky said:There is so much wrong with the assumptions not sure where to start. Let's apply the same logic and Bruce Willis it. The planet has actually been hit by an asteroid before and destroyed most life on it...there is precedent for it.
If the threat is fake and we do nothing, we are fine.
If the threat is fake and we do something, we waste some money.
If the threat is real and we do nothing, humanity is in serious trouble.
If the threat is real and we do something, we give ourselves a chance.
Regardless of your beliefs it seems like trying to fix something is the preferable outcome. So we should be sinking a ton of money into spaceship, telescopes, space stations, etc.
You can make that logic game theory and always come out with the answer that you should spend a ton of money fixing any and every problem somebody might maybe be worried about just in case...the only problem is, nobody has a ton of money sitting around. -
Chinned for the Whitney Houston reference. Circa 1986/1987 hot perky white t-shirt Whitney Houston. Maybe even up through 1992 The Bodyguard Whitney when Kevin Costner was getting some of that. Not post-Bobby Brown drugged out Whitney.2001400ex said:Ok WhitneyHouston. Your whole premise is that you don't want to reduce pollution/emissions because of the cost to the manufacturer, which will then get passed on to you. In essence, you are saying you don't want to personally pay for some fairy tale.
Ok, now let's look at a real world example. The last 6 months, the one thing Trump has done is he's scaled back regulations, coal producers can now dump raw sewage into Rivers again (that's true freedom right there) and we pulled out of the Paris Accord and Trump wants to gut the EPA.
In your theory world, the price of utilities and manufactured goods should be going down then. Or at least not increasing anymore as regulations are being rolled back.
Now.... Let's look at prices the last 6 months, what have they done???
Fawk you are such a blinded shill.
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What behavior is anyone asking you to change?doogie said:
The trouble with you smug, progressive fascists is that you can easily change your behavior to fit your conviction dejour but, you don't. Instead you spend all this time and energy trying to get others to force me to change my behavior.2001400ex said:
So let's just do nothing then.HoustonHusky said:There is so much wrong with the assumptions not sure where to start. Let's apply the same logic and Bruce Willis it. The planet has actually been hit by an asteroid before and destroyed most life on it...there is precedent for it.
If the threat is fake and we do nothing, we are fine.
If the threat is fake and we do something, we waste some money.
If the threat is real and we do nothing, humanity is in serious trouble.
If the threat is real and we do something, we give ourselves a chance.
Regardless of your beliefs it seems like trying to fix something is the preferable outcome. So we should be sinking a ton of money into spaceship, telescopes, space stations, etc.
You can make that logic game theory and always come out with the answer that you should spend a ton of money fixing any and every problem somebody might maybe be worried about just in case...the only problem is, nobody has a ton of money sitting around. -
5) Please list the things that will kill us if we don't slow CO2 emissions.ThomasFremont said:The royal we.
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Great Tommy, what's your plan then?
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6) If we somehow ceased 50% of our CO2 emissions today, it wouldn't
matter because China. India and Brazil will still be pumping their millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere everyday.
7) Profit. -
That's a whole lot of HondoFS.2001400ex said:Ok WhitneyHouston. Your whole premise is that you don't want to reduce pollution/emissions because of the cost to the manufacturer, which will then get passed on to you. In essence, you are saying you don't want to personally pay for some fairy tale.
Ok, now let's look at a real world example. The last 6 months, the one thing Trump has done is he's scaled back regulations, coal producers can now dump raw sewage into Rivers again (that's true freedom right there) and we pulled out of the Paris Accord and Trump wants to gut the EPA.
In your theory world, the price of utilities and manufactured goods should be going down then. Or at least not increasing anymore as regulations are being rolled back.
Now.... Let's look at prices the last 6 months, what have they done???
Fawk you are such a blinded shill.
1) The Paris Accords didn't do shit for CO2 emissions and GW...if you want to sink money into something that actually addresses the problem, push for nuclear power. Having the US paying African dictators and places like China boondoggles to install windmills and such (basically buy off political friends) is FS. Hence why you seem to love it.
2) I think among the laundry list of things you need to learn is what "sewage" actually is. And if Obama thought any regulation was important enough, he should have done it sooner in his administration instead of last minute when it could get overturned. The only reason he did it was to get lemmings like you riled up when the new regulation was undone.
3) Your grasp of economics is as good as your grasp of GW theory and pretty much everything else...*cough*
God you are an effin moron... -
We're not doing nothing you fucking morons. We've been doing SOMETHING for 50 years now and we have cleaner air and water for it.
What we are not doing is funding the world based on a bunch of bullshit that we can sucker Uncle Sam into paying for.
Stop crying like a little bitch and enjoy the life you are living that is completely dependent on carbon -
That's actually very true. America is mostly cleaned up. China and India are the biggest contributors that need to stop. I didn't need sunglasses in India even tho there were no clouds. We need to do more to reduce their emissions. We did sign an agreement with them last year but it was no where near aggressive enough.salemcoog said:6) If we somehow ceased 50% of our CO2 emissions today, it wouldn't
matter because China. India and Brazil will still be pumping their millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere everyday.
7) Profit. -
You completely ignore the point of my comment. Please explain how regulations have been rolled back but prices are actually going up quicker then under Obama.HoustonHusky said:
That's a whole lot of HondoFS.2001400ex said:Ok WhitneyHouston. Your whole premise is that you don't want to reduce pollution/emissions because of the cost to the manufacturer, which will then get passed on to you. In essence, you are saying you don't want to personally pay for some fairy tale.
Ok, now let's look at a real world example. The last 6 months, the one thing Trump has done is he's scaled back regulations, coal producers can now dump raw sewage into Rivers again (that's true freedom right there) and we pulled out of the Paris Accord and Trump wants to gut the EPA.
In your theory world, the price of utilities and manufactured goods should be going down then. Or at least not increasing anymore as regulations are being rolled back.
Now.... Let's look at prices the last 6 months, what have they done???
Fawk you are such a blinded shill.
1) The Paris Accords didn't do shit for CO2 emissions and GW...if you want to sink money into something that actually addresses the problem, push for nuclear power. Having the US paying African dictators and places like China boondoggles to install windmills and such (basically buy off political friends) is FS. Hence why you seem to love it.
2) I think among the laundry list of things you need to learn is what "sewage" actually is. And if Obama thought any regulation was important enough, he should have done it sooner in his administration instead of last minute when it could get overturned. The only reason he did it was to get lemmings like you riled up when the new regulation was undone.
3) Your grasp of economics is as good as your grasp of GW theory and pretty much everything else...*cough*
God you are an effin moron... -
Probably the best option.2001400ex said:
So let's just do nothing then.HoustonHusky said:There is so much wrong with the assumptions not sure where to start. Let's apply the same logic and Bruce Willis it. The planet has actually been hit by an asteroid before and destroyed most life on it...there is precedent for it.
If the threat is fake and we do nothing, we are fine.
If the threat is fake and we do something, we waste some money.
If the threat is real and we do nothing, humanity is in serious trouble.
If the threat is real and we do something, we give ourselves a chance.
Regardless of your beliefs it seems like trying to fix something is the preferable outcome. So we should be sinking a ton of money into spaceship, telescopes, space stations, etc.
You can make that logic game theory and always come out with the answer that you should spend a ton of money fixing any and every problem somebody might maybe be worried about just in case...the only problem is, nobody has a ton of money sitting around. -
This. How come I never see these shrill alarmist LA douchebags living in a tent and cooking food over a fire? Instead they are in their 7K square foot Malibu fag pad with a fleet of Bentley's and private jets telling me to sacrifice for the cause. Fuck them.doogie said:
The trouble with you smug, progressive fascists is that you can easily change your behavior to fit your conviction dejour but, you don't. Instead you spend all this time and energy trying to get others to force me to change my behavior.2001400ex said:
So let's just do nothing then.HoustonHusky said:There is so much wrong with the assumptions not sure where to start. Let's apply the same logic and Bruce Willis it. The planet has actually been hit by an asteroid before and destroyed most life on it...there is precedent for it.
If the threat is fake and we do nothing, we are fine.
If the threat is fake and we do something, we waste some money.
If the threat is real and we do nothing, humanity is in serious trouble.
If the threat is real and we do something, we give ourselves a chance.
Regardless of your beliefs it seems like trying to fix something is the preferable outcome. So we should be sinking a ton of money into spaceship, telescopes, space stations, etc.
You can make that logic game theory and always come out with the answer that you should spend a ton of money fixing any and every problem somebody might maybe be worried about just in case...the only problem is, nobody has a ton of money sitting around. -
Check your white privilege bitch2001400ex said:
That's actually very true. America is mostly cleaned up. China and India are the biggest contributors that need to stop. I didn't need sunglasses in India even tho there were no clouds. We need to do more to reduce their emissions. We did sign an agreement with them last year but it was no where near aggressive enough.salemcoog said:6) If we somehow ceased 50% of our CO2 emissions today, it wouldn't
matter because China. India and Brazil will still be pumping their millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere everyday.
7) Profit.
We? don't get to tell anyone what to do
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Faggott2001400ex said:Ok WhitneyHouston. Your whole premise is that you don't want to reduce pollution/emissions because of the cost to the manufacturer, which will then get passed on to you. In essence, you are saying you don't want to personally pay for some fairy tale.
Ok, now let's look at a real world example. The last 6 months, the one thing Trump has done is he's scaled back regulations, coal producers can now dump raw sewage into Rivers again (that's true freedom right there) and we pulled out of the Paris Accord and Trump wants to gut the EPA.
In your theory world, the price of utilities and manufactured goods should be going down then. Or at least not increasing anymore as regulations are being rolled back.
Now.... Let's look at prices the last 6 months, what have they done???
Fawk you are such a blinded shill. -
Because its really freaking cool man to talk about it and feel like you are making a difference.Swaye said:
This. How come I never see these shrill alarmist LA douchebags living in a tent and cooking food over a fire? Instead they are in their 7K square foot Malibu fag pad with a fleet of Bentley's and private jets telling me to sacrifice for the cause. Fuck them.doogie said:
The trouble with you smug, progressive fascists is that you can easily change your behavior to fit your conviction dejour but, you don't. Instead you spend all this time and energy trying to get others to force me to change my behavior.2001400ex said:
So let's just do nothing then.HoustonHusky said:There is so much wrong with the assumptions not sure where to start. Let's apply the same logic and Bruce Willis it. The planet has actually been hit by an asteroid before and destroyed most life on it...there is precedent for it.
If the threat is fake and we do nothing, we are fine.
If the threat is fake and we do something, we waste some money.
If the threat is real and we do nothing, humanity is in serious trouble.
If the threat is real and we do something, we give ourselves a chance.
Regardless of your beliefs it seems like trying to fix something is the preferable outcome. So we should be sinking a ton of money into spaceship, telescopes, space stations, etc.
You can make that logic game theory and always come out with the answer that you should spend a ton of money fixing any and every problem somebody might maybe be worried about just in case...the only problem is, nobody has a ton of money sitting around. -
So, you admit it. Trump is right. Obama signed a shitty agreement.2001400ex said:
That's actually very true. America is mostly cleaned up. China and India are the biggest contributors that need to stop. I didn't need sunglasses in India even tho there were no clouds. We need to do more to reduce their emissions. We did sign an agreement with them last year but it was no where near aggressive enough.salemcoog said:6) If we somehow ceased 50% of our CO2 emissions today, it wouldn't
matter because China. India and Brazil will still be pumping their millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere everyday.
7) Profit. -
Yes I'm not like you and think everything Trump does is right. It's awesome that is shocking to you.doogie said:
So, you admit it. Trump is right. Obama signed a shitty agreement.2001400ex said:
That's actually very true. America is mostly cleaned up. China and India are the biggest contributors that need to stop. I didn't need sunglasses in India even tho there were no clouds. We need to do more to reduce their emissions. We did sign an agreement with them last year but it was no where near aggressive enough.salemcoog said:6) If we somehow ceased 50% of our CO2 emissions today, it wouldn't
matter because China. India and Brazil will still be pumping their millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere everyday.
7) Profit. -
Not everything winners do is right, except for the winning part.
Obama fucked it up, Trump called him on it and backed out of the shitty agreement, hondo agrees with Trump and we all move on. -
I'm still waiting for an answer to the question. Maybe you'll do a better job than WhitneyHouston. What has happened to prices under this period of relaxed regulations?doogie said:Not everything winners do is right, except for the winning part.
Obama fucked it up, Trump called him on it and backed out of the shitty agreement, hondo agrees with Trump and we all move on. -
I present to you the tardiest of the Libtards...... HONDO!!!!!!2001400ex said:
That's actually very true. America is mostly cleaned up. China and India are the biggest contributors that need to stop. I didn't need sunglasses in India even tho there were no clouds. We need to do more to reduce their emissions. We did sign an agreement with them last year but it was no where near aggressive enough.salemcoog said:6) If we somehow ceased 50% of our CO2 emissions today, it wouldn't
matter because China. India and Brazil will still be pumping their millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere everyday.
7) Profit. -
Fuck off. Help humanity and sequester your carbon self underground
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Exactly what I thought.doogie said:Fuck off. Help humanity and sequester your carbon self underground
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Nobody is stupid enough to think that anything that Trump has done will show the effect yet.
Almost nobody that is -
You are right, the conservative philosophy of just overthrowing the entire government for disagreeing with our philosophies and forcing them to have a democratic government is the more appropriate method.salemcoog said:
I present to you the tardiest of the Libtards...... HONDO!!!!!!2001400ex said:
That's actually very true. America is mostly cleaned up. China and India are the biggest contributors that need to stop. I didn't need sunglasses in India even tho there were no clouds. We need to do more to reduce their emissions. We did sign an agreement with them last year but it was no where near aggressive enough.salemcoog said:6) If we somehow ceased 50% of our CO2 emissions today, it wouldn't
matter because China. India and Brazil will still be pumping their millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere everyday.
7) Profit.
