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30 for 30. Lakers/Celtics

PurpleThrobber
PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
Damn.

Magic, Bird, Red, Russell, West.

But most impressive - the fine ass Dr. Buss pulled.

Flagging myself.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Those teams wouldn't even make the playoffs in today's NBA.

    LOL
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter

    Those teams wouldn't even make the playoffs in today's NBA.

    Fuuuuuuuck.

    Edibles or vape last night?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Those teams wouldn't even make the playoffs in today's NBA.

    Fuuuuuuuck.

    Edibles or vape last night?
    Why are you giving me this question?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2017

    Those teams wouldn't even make the playoffs in today's NBA.

    Fuuuuuuuck.

    Edibles or vape last night?
    Why are you giving me this question?
    The only logical conclusion for such an absurd notion.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    Those teams wouldn't even make the playoffs in today's NBA.

    ISAFNRC...
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    They were so racially confused they thought one of their three token black guys was Chindian.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,342 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Those teams wouldn't even make the playoffs in today's NBA.

    ISAFNRC...
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    They were so racially confused they thought one of their three token black guys was Chindian.
    When YellowSnow was a young lad growing up in So Cal (some people like to call is So Cal), I loved Showtime and haters the Celtics with such a passion. Now I kind of think the 80's Celtics were pretty tuff...still liked the Lakers better of that era. Now I'm indifferent toward the NBA. Gotta think Bird, McHale, (healthy) Walton could have still been good in today's NBA, but what the fuck do I know.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    The Lakers were tougher than many give them credit for ... the Celtics had more flair than many care to remember.

    Both are all time elite teams ... it's a shame to not know how the Celtics would have continued forward with Len Bias.

    The need to make things about race is too prevalent to me. The Celtics had a bunch of great players ... their skin color was what it was. The Celtics of the 60s were as diverse as anybody in the NBA full of great players. The 17 banners in Boston tells me that they prioritize getting the best players above all else.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    The only downside to Bird today would be his lack of foot speed - he'd be a PF today but he played both F spots in his era. His shooting would have played easily today and his passing ability likely on greater display with more space.

    McHale had the best offensive post game to ever play the game and was more of a mobile defender than most remember. He'd probably be a C in today's game but equally as unstoppable.

    An in his prime uninjured Walton was as good as any C in the history of the game - go back and watch the 77 Finals. No question he could play today.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    The Lakers were tougher than many give them credit for ... the Celtics had more flair than many care to remember.

    Both are all time elite teams ... it's a shame to not know how the Celtics would have continued forward with Len Bias.

    The need to make things about race is too prevalent to me. The Celtics had a bunch of great players ... their skin color was what it was. The Celtics of the 60s were as diverse as anybody in the NBA full of great players. The 17 banners in Boston tells me that they prioritize getting the best players above all else.

    You must have missed the part about the 60's Celtics being second class to the Bruins and the lousy attendance that doubled when Cowens and Havlicheck took over.

    If you don't think the Lakers Celtics in the 80's was about race you weren't there.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    I saw/heard all of it ...

    I'm not talking about the fans ... I'm talking about the organization

    I'm well aware of the fact that the 80's rivalry was viewed along racial lines ...

    What I'm saying is the organizations were all about getting the best players ...

    For myself personally growing up in that era, I never saw race ... what I saw were 2 teams that knew how to win playing a brand of basketball that set up their teammates to be successful ...

    It's why my 2 favorite players growing up were Bird/Magic ... I remember being at the 80s game they showed in the movie where Magic hit a running hook to beat the Sonics ...

    I didn't know as a kid you weren't allowed to like both North Carolina and Duke ... I just knew that they played together and in a way that was highly successful
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
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    I always pulled for the Lakers.

  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,340

    Tequilla said:

    The Lakers were tougher than many give them credit for ... the Celtics had more flair than many care to remember.

    Both are all time elite teams ... it's a shame to not know how the Celtics would have continued forward with Len Bias.

    The need to make things about race is too prevalent to me. The Celtics had a bunch of great players ... their skin color was what it was. The Celtics of the 60s were as diverse as anybody in the NBA full of great players. The 17 banners in Boston tells me that they prioritize getting the best players above all else.


    If you don't think the Lakers Celtics in the 80's was about race you weren't there.
    Race was there. (mind blown).
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Those teams wouldn't even make the playoffs in today's NBA.

    Fuuuuuuuck.

    Edibles or vape last night?
    Why are you giving me this question?
    Because both the Lakers and the Celtics would have been in the playoffs this year.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    Those teams wouldn't even make the playoffs in today's NBA.

    Fuuuuuuuck.

    Edibles or vape last night?
    Why are you giving me this question?
    Because both the Lakers and the Celtics would have been in the playoffs this year.
    Nope
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,731 Founders Club
    No dog in the fight, but one of the finals games between the Lakers and Celtics was on ESPN classic a few days ago and it seriously looked like a JV game.

    The way they dribbled, shot, moved was pretty archaic.

    Not a hater, but besides magic it was pretty fucking ugly.

    It's ok to say those teams would be like the 4th or 5th best in their conference in today's game.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Doogles said:

    No dog in the fight, but one of the finals games between the Lakers and Celtics was on ESPN classic a few days ago and it seriously looked like a JV game.

    The way they dribbled, shot, moved was pretty archaic.

    Not a hater, but besides magic it was pretty fucking ugly.

    It's ok to say those teams would be like the 4th or 5th best in their conference in today's game.

    The game was different then in terms of style and rules.

    Those players are some of the best ever ... thinking they wouldn't adjust to today's style is foolish
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
    Doogles said:

    Tequilla said:

    Doogles said:

    No dog in the fight, but one of the finals games between the Lakers and Celtics was on ESPN classic a few days ago and it seriously looked like a JV game.

    The way they dribbled, shot, moved was pretty archaic.

    Not a hater, but besides magic it was pretty fucking ugly.

    It's ok to say those teams would be like the 4th or 5th best in their conference in today's game.

    The game was different then in terms of style and rules.

    Those players are some of the best ever ... thinking they wouldn't adjust to today's style is foolish
    Crouch dribbling up and down the court isn't a style, it's insecurity from lack of skill.

    95% of that era would be playing overseas today.
    Fuck. Take another hit.

    When you knew were were going to have your head knocked off or someone forearm was planted firmly on your hip, the fundamentals were entirely different.

    Let Dennis Johnson put a forearm shiver on Kyrie and Steph for 32 minutes per game - they sure as fuck wouldn't be playing the same way they do today.

    In fact, Steph would be playing golf.

    #fragile

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Doogles said:

    Tequilla said:

    Doogles said:

    No dog in the fight, but one of the finals games between the Lakers and Celtics was on ESPN classic a few days ago and it seriously looked like a JV game.

    The way they dribbled, shot, moved was pretty archaic.

    Not a hater, but besides magic it was pretty fucking ugly.

    It's ok to say those teams would be like the 4th or 5th best in their conference in today's game.

    The game was different then in terms of style and rules.

    Those players are some of the best ever ... thinking they wouldn't adjust to today's style is foolish
    Crouch dribbling up and down the court isn't a style, it's insecurity from lack of skill.

    95% of that era would be playing overseas today.
    Are you saying the King of the Side Saddle dribble Gary Payton couldn't play today?

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    I know the guys back then could play today. It was a different era though. Athletes have evolved. They get better. The older era looks like shit compared to today's.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter

    I always love the argument that old players can easily adapt to today's game, but somehow today's vastly superior athletes couldn't possibly bang with the old rules.

    They'd learn to crouch and side straddle dribble.

    They'd be fucked down low in the post but still...

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    I always love the argument that old players can easily adapt to today's game, but somehow today's vastly superior athletes couldn't possibly bang with the old rules.

    They would definitely adjust ... but no question that the game was more physical then than it is today
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    edited July 2017
    I'm surprised it took so long for the 3 pointer to be valued like it is. It really is simple math.

    Larry Bird should have been shooting 6-8 three's a game, not 2-3.

    A good player is a good player, in any era. Curry probably wouldn't be quite as good in the older era, but that's more because the old coaches and archaic thinking would stifle him. Guys back in the 80's weren't shooting three's off the dribble.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    I'm surprised it took so long for the 3 pointer to be valued like it is. It really is simple math.

    Larry Bird should have been shooting 6-8 three's a game, not 2-3.

    A good player is a good player, in any era. Curry probably wouldn't be quite as good in the older era, but that's more because the old coaches and archaic thinking would stifle him. Guys back in the 80's weren't shooting three's off the dribble.

    The way 3's are created today make them a far better shot because of the ball movement into the shot ... of course the amount that those shots are practiced helps a ton as well

    Personally, I think that too many guys shoot 3's that shouldn't and there's a wide variety of shots that are effective that are gone from the game ...

    The best offense to me is still getting an open shot each possession
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited July 2017
    Tequilla said:

    I'm surprised it took so long for the 3 pointer to be valued like it is. It really is simple math.

    Larry Bird should have been shooting 6-8 three's a game, not 2-3.

    A good player is a good player, in any era. Curry probably wouldn't be quite as good in the older era, but that's more because the old coaches and archaic thinking would stifle him. Guys back in the 80's weren't shooting three's off the dribble.

    The way 3's are created today make them a far better shot because of the ball movement into the shot ... of course the amount that those shots are practiced helps a ton as well

    Personally, I think that too many guys shoot 3's that shouldn't and there's a wide variety of shots that are effective that are gone from the game ...

    The best offense to me is still getting an open shot each possession
    Agreed. The best kind of shots to work for are the ones that go in.