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Kim Grinolds: there he goes again

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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2013
    Steve_Bowman said:

    Well Derek, 2010 was really, really early to throw in the towel. I thought so then I still do. (Best I can remember, you were calling for Sark's head in 2010? The Polk thing was one of the reasons.)

    There were plenty of warning signs in 2010 as mentioned above. However, the guy could have improved, he could have learned to be a head coach, he could have dumped the duds on his staff much sooner, he could have hired an offensive coordinator, there were many ways he could have matured by 2012. He didn't.

    My call all along was 2012 being the watershed year. He flunked.

    By that logic, why throw in the towel now? He could improve, right? The truth is the truth no matter when you see it. The truth was evident in 2010. It wasn't to early. We all knew he wasn't going to do the things you listed. He "could have". And I could win the lottery. You were relying on "hope".
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  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited February 2013
    Actually Mike, I was relying on management expertise that works more often than not. Hope had zero to do with it.

    However, without a doubt I was wrong.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Steve_Bowman said:

    Actually Mike, I was relying on management expertise that works more often than not. Hope had zero to do with it.

    However, without a doubt I was wrong.

    Explain. You were using you're management expertise? My management expertise told me he had never done anything in his career to suggest he would be a decent head coach. Doogman puffed up a bunch of stuff that was bullshit and many of us said so at the time. But still, in 2009 he needed a chance to prove himself. After 2009, the facts still said he had done zero to suggest he would be a decent head coach. My management style uses facts and data to come to conclusions, not sire what you use. In 2010 it was clear sark was out of his league. There was some irrational exuberance they way 2010 ended, but careful analysis of the facts surrounding that season told us what we needed to know. We have the wrong coach.

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  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    MikeDamone said:

    Steve_Bowman said:

    Actually Mike, I was relying on management expertise that works more often than not. Hope had zero to do with it.

    However, without a doubt I was wrong.

    Doogman puffed up a bunch of stuff that was bullshit and many of us said so at the time.

    This, of course, was after your drunk father in law on the couch broke the news about Sark being hired and Fleenor and AASHAT losing their fucking marbles that night.
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  • SweatpantsGeneral
    SweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,154 Founders Club
    Steve I noticed your poasts are much crisper since quitting Doogman and coming here.
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  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    Yes. Swallowing my tongue is not a natural response for me.
    koopdog said:

    Steve I noticed your poasts are much crisper since quitting Doogman and coming here.

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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,047
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    It was impossible for them to be ahead of us on this one.

    RIP WeWereAFootballSchool.

    It's impossible for them to be ahead of us on anything other than being retards ... all you have to know is that krisvashon is comfortable there. That is all you have to know.

    R-E-T-A-R-D-S

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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    WhiskeyDawg said:

    Say what you want about Sven being a dumb ass, but I was in a casino with him the day that Willingham was hired, and paraphrasing him regarding the hire: " We are fucked." That was almost four years before Dawgman.com admitted publicly on their boards that Willingham was a disaster.

    I admit I am guilty of giving him the first year pass, much like I gave Corky. I'm too nice of a guy I guess.

    FREE PUB!
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  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
    "Washington, welcome back to college football relevance!"
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Swaye said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    WhiskeyDawg said:

    Say what you want about Sven being a dumb ass, but I was in a casino with him the day that Willingham was hired, and paraphrasing him regarding the hire: " We are fucked." That was almost four years before Dawgman.com admitted publicly on their boards that Willingham was a disaster.

    I admit I am guilty of giving him the first year pass, much like I gave Corky. I'm too nice of a guy I guess.

    FREE PUB!
    I'm just happy to know you were giving money to my people.
    You have people in Elko?
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Swaye said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    WhiskeyDawg said:

    Say what you want about Sven being a dumb ass, but I was in a casino with him the day that Willingham was hired, and paraphrasing him regarding the hire: " We are fucked." That was almost four years before Dawgman.com admitted publicly on their boards that Willingham was a disaster.

    I admit I am guilty of giving him the first year pass, much like I gave Corky. I'm too nice of a guy I guess.

    FREE PUB!
    I'm just happy to know you were giving money to my people.
    Since I'm in Vegas my money only goes goes to the Jews. When I get back to AZ tomorrow I'll go to the casino to tyfys
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