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Kim Grinolds: there he goes again

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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,197 Founders Club
    The additional funny thing about the Samek editorial.... I called Kim immediately and asked him why they were running another editorial after they wouldn't let me run my multiple anti-Ty editorials going back to the previous year. Kim said Samek was being a "fucking idiot" and had posted it without his permission.
  • CheersWestDawgCheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam

    The additional funny thing about the Samek editorial.... I called Kim immediately and asked him why they were running another editorial after they wouldn't let me run my multiple anti-Ty editorials going back to the previous year. Kim said Samek was being a "fucking idiot" and had posted it without his permission.

    Total fucking cop out. And a lie. Even if it was true, where the fuck is the editor in chief?

    Oh yeah, never mind...he's too busy chowing down on a plate of 12 lb nachos while jerking off to a 17 year old boy's football highlight tape.
  • Steve_BowmanSteve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    This sums it up about as well as I've ever heard it.
    section8 said:

    That whole site is nothing more than a pay per use mouthpiece for the athletic department.

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Say what you want about Sven being a dumb ass, but I was in a casino with him the day that Willingham was hired, and paraphrasing him regarding the hire: " We are fucked." That was almost four years before Dawgman.com admitted publicly on their boards that Willingham was a disaster.

    I admit I am guilty of giving him the first year pass, much like I gave Corky. I'm too nice of a guy I guess.

    The Lucky Eagle?

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I had home for Willingham year 1. I was looked at he Stanford record and bought into the myth that it's hard to win at Stanford and Ty did about as well there as some of their best coaches. I mocked Sark from the first kick ass presser.
  • Steve_BowmanSteve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited February 2013
    I'm too nice as well.

    I gave Steve the Soft a pass until that pathetic Alamo Bowl game. I kinda had it figured out when we got mopped up by a three win Or St team the same year, 2011.

    In the second year it was pretty obvious: lack of discipline, lousy organization, sloppy execution, poor play calling, disinterest during games - a cream puff soft culture. Music during meetings, guys goofing off on the sidelines. What a crock of shit.
  • WhiskeyDawgWhiskeyDawg Member Posts: 406



    The Lucky Eagle?

    Elko Nevada Red Lion.
  • WhiskeyDawgWhiskeyDawg Member Posts: 406

    I'm too nice as well.

    I gave Steve the Soft a pass until that pathetic Alamo Bowl game. I kinda had it figured out when we got mopped up by a three win Or St team the same year, 2011.

    In the second year it was pretty obvious: lack of discipline, lousy organization, sloppy execution, poor play calling, disinterest during games - a cream puff soft culture. Music during meetings, guys goofing off on the sidelines. What a crook of shit.

    Pete Carroll had the bullets to do that at USC. That shit doesn't work so well here.

  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,197 Founders Club

    I'm too nice as well.

    I gave Steve the Soft a pass until that pathetic Alamo Bowl game. I kinda had it figured out when we got mopped up by a three win Or St team the same year, 2011.

    In the second year it was pretty obvious: lack of discipline, lousy organization, sloppy execution, poor play calling, disinterest during games - a cream puff soft culture. Music during meetings, guys goofing off on the sidelines. What a crock of shit.

    In early November 2010 you told me I was embarrassing myself by criticizing Sark and calling for Polk to get the ball 25-30 times a game. I'm glad you finally saw the light.
  • Steve_BowmanSteve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited February 2013
    Well Derek, 2010 was really, really early to throw in the towel. I thought so then I still do. (Best I can remember, you were calling for Sark's head in 2010? The Polk thing was one of the reasons.)

    There were plenty of warning signs in 2010 as mentioned above. However, the guy could have improved, he could have learned to be a head coach, he could have dumped the duds on his staff much sooner, he could have hired an offensive coordinator, there were many ways he could have matured by 2012. He didn't.

    My call all along was 2012 being the watershed year. He flunked.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2013

    Well Derek, 2010 was really, really early to throw in the towel. I thought so then I still do. (Best I can remember, you were calling for Sark's head in 2010? The Polk thing was one of the reasons.)

    There were plenty of warning signs in 2010 as mentioned above. However, the guy could have improved, he could have learned to be a head coach, he could have dumped the duds on his staff much sooner, he could have hired an offensive coordinator, there were many ways he could have matured by 2012. He didn't.

    My call all along was 2012 being the watershed year. He flunked.

    By that logic, why throw in the towel now? He could improve, right? The truth is the truth no matter when you see it. The truth was evident in 2010. It wasn't to early. We all knew he wasn't going to do the things you listed. He "could have". And I could win the lottery. You were relying on "hope".
  • Steve_BowmanSteve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited February 2013
    Actually Mike, I was relying on management expertise that works more often than not. Hope had zero to do with it.

    However, without a doubt I was wrong.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Actually Mike, I was relying on management expertise that works more often than not. Hope had zero to do with it.

    However, without a doubt I was wrong.

    Explain. You were using you're management expertise? My management expertise told me he had never done anything in his career to suggest he would be a decent head coach. Doogman puffed up a bunch of stuff that was bullshit and many of us said so at the time. But still, in 2009 he needed a chance to prove himself. After 2009, the facts still said he had done zero to suggest he would be a decent head coach. My management style uses facts and data to come to conclusions, not sire what you use. In 2010 it was clear sark was out of his league. There was some irrational exuberance they way 2010 ended, but careful analysis of the facts surrounding that season told us what we needed to know. We have the wrong coach.

  • CheersWestDawgCheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam

    Actually Mike, I was relying on management expertise that works more often than not. Hope had zero to do with it.

    However, without a doubt I was wrong.

    Doogman puffed up a bunch of stuff that was bullshit and many of us said so at the time.

    This, of course, was after your drunk father in law on the couch broke the news about Sark being hired and Fleenor and AASHAT losing their fucking marbles that night.
  • SweatpantsGeneralSweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,110 Swaye's Wigwam
    Steve I noticed your poasts are much crisper since quitting Doogman and coming here.
  • Steve_BowmanSteve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    Yes. Swallowing my tongue is not a natural response for me.
    koopdog said:

    Steve I noticed your poasts are much crisper since quitting Doogman and coming here.

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,116

    It was impossible for them to be ahead of us on this one.

    RIP WeWereAFootballSchool.

    It's impossible for them to be ahead of us on anything other than being retards ... all you have to know is that krisvashon is comfortable there. That is all you have to know.

    R-E-T-A-R-D-S

  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Say what you want about Sven being a dumb ass, but I was in a casino with him the day that Willingham was hired, and paraphrasing him regarding the hire: " We are fucked." That was almost four years before Dawgman.com admitted publicly on their boards that Willingham was a disaster.

    I admit I am guilty of giving him the first year pass, much like I gave Corky. I'm too nice of a guy I guess.

    FREE PUB!
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