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What a nice change of pace it is
PurpleJ
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To have a President who talks about terrorists like they are the enemy
Quoted CNN for irony.
Quoted CNN for irony.
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Change of pace?
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People forget that Obama was a secret Muslim who would have called this workplace violence.BennyBeaver said:Change of pace?
So fucking stupid, J.
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You're troll gayme is skrong.
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Uh no. That actually true.BennyBeaver said:You're troll gayme is skrong.
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PurpleJ said:
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The Politics of Islam has far more in common with the Progressive Left than you realize. It is why they are so sympathetic to each other.
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The Shit you post at Hardcore Husky has far more in common with pig shit than you realize. It is why they are so sympathetic to each other.
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Benny is triggered today
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RaceBannon said:
Benny is wiggered today
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Explain.Dude61 said:The Politics of Islam has far more in common with the Progressive Left than you realize. It is why they are so sympathetic to each other.
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No they have nothing in common politically. The issue with the progressive left vis-a-vis Islamic culture is their apologist attitude towards it. Either stand up for western liberal values or don't; don't given them a pass for the sake of diversity or post colonial guilt bullshit.Dude61 said:The Politics of Islam has far more in common with the Progressive Left than you realize. It is why they are so sympathetic to each other.
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He would also ask us to not pass judgement and then remind us of the awful things Christians (non Ugandan) have done.PurpleJ said:
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That's one issue, I totally agree. However, progressivism is not rooted in classical western liberalism, and it's fair to say that progressive attitudes towards strong centralized government are akin to those Islam harbors towards strong theocracies. Both believe the masses need "help" in making decisions on their own and share a belief in control of the masses by a few in power. I agree with you, this is not why they're sympathetic to one another, but it's true nonetheless.YellowSnow said:
No they have nothing in common politically. The issue with the progressive left vis-a-vis Islamic culture is their apologist attitude towards it. Either stand up for western liberal values or don't; don't given them a pass for the sake of diversity or post colonial guilt bullshit. -
not true, but continue to keep that tidy little box around Progressivism.Southerndawg said:
However, progressivism is not rooted in classical western liberalism, and it's fair to say that progressive attitudes towards strong centralized government are akin to those Islam harbors towards strong theocracies. Both believe the masses need "help" in making decisions on their own and share a belief in control of the masses by a few in power. -
Substitute "politics" or "policies" with "system of governance"BennyBeaver said:
not true, but continue to keep that tidy little box around Progressivism. -
Loser is about the strongest insult Trump has. He's a half brain in that regard
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No.GrundleStiltzkin said:
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Yep, absolutely. I think the "loser" label is really going to shake things up in the Moozlum world. ISIS, I'm sure, is really second-guessing their mission in the wake of that speech.
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I am sure you and I would find plenty of areas of agreement in criticizing the progressive left and overreach by the federal government, but I would argue that there's nothing necessary incompatible between strong central government and classical western liberal principles. How many times in the history of the Republic did the federal government have to defend life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness from tyrannies of the majority at the state and local level? Hell, our own Constitution came about as a result of to weak of a centralized government.Southerndawg said:
That's one issue, I totally agree. However, progressivism is not rooted in classical western liberalism, and it's fair to say that progressive attitudes towards strong centralized government are akin to those Islam harbors towards strong theocracies. Both believe the masses need "help" in making decisions on their own and share a belief in control of the masses by a few in power. I agree with you, this is not why they're sympathetic to one another, but it's true nonetheless. -
Losercreepycoug said:Yep, absolutely. I think the "loser" label is really going to shake things up in the Moozlum world. ISIS, I'm sure, is really second-guessing their mission in the wake of that speech.
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*thud*RaceBannon said:
Loser -
Fixed. You give him too much credit.RaceBannon said:Loser is about the strongest insult Trump has. He's a quarter brain in that regard
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PurpleJ said:
To have a President who talks about terrorists like they are the enemy
Quoted CNN for irony.
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OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!RaceBannon said:
Loser -
People forget that the Saudis did 9/11.ThomasFremont said: -
LoserThomasFremont said:
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Who is the biglyist funder of radical islamic terrorism?
Iran?
Saudi Arabia?
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*thud*RaceBannon said:
Loser -
Classical western liberal principles are based on limited government, with a recognition that some is necessary for the very purposes you mention. Progressives go far beyond the limited government model of classical liberalism and in fact have a disdain for the constitution as it limits what they can do.YellowSnow said:
I am sure you and I would find plenty of areas of agreement in criticizing the progressive left and overreach by the federal government, but I would argue that there's nothing necessary incompatible between strong central government and classical western liberal principles. How many times in the history of the Republic did the federal government have to defend life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness from tyrannies of the majority at the state and local level? Hell, our own Constitution came about as a result of to weak of a centralized government. -
Southerndawg said:
Classical western liberal principles are based on limited government, with a recognition that some is necessary for the very purposes you mention. Progressives go far beyond the limited government model of classical liberalism and in fact have a disdain for the constitution as it limits what they can do.
