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Heritage, Not Hate

AZDuck
AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468
edited May 2017 in Tug Tavern
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    A REAL military man would support Robert E Lee. One of the best American commanders of all time.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    Don't insult our American heroes like that.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468
    PurpleJ said:

    Don't insult our American heroes like that.

    "Heroes"?

    Treason in defense of slavery isn't heroism. Lee was one of the more decent Confederates, just like Erwin Rommel was one of the more decent Nazis. Not a lot of statues or Rommel in Germany, though.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,837 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    A REAL military man would support Robert E Lee. One of the best American commanders of all time.

    Pickett's Charge—sometimes called Longstreet's assault or, more recently, the Pickett-Pettigrew-Trimble Assault—was an infantry assault ordered by Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee against Maj. Gen. George G. Meade's Union positions on July 3, 1863, the last day of the Battle of Gettysburg in the state of Pennsylvania during the American Civil War. Its futility was predicted by the charge's commander, Lt. Gen. James Longstreet, and it was arguably an avoidable mistake from which the Southern war effort never fully recovered militarily or psychologically. The farthest point reached by the attack has been referred to as the high-water mark of the Confederacy.

    The charge is named after Maj. Gen. George Pickett, one of three Confederate generals who led the assault under Longstreet.

    Pickett's charge was part of Lee's "general plan"[1] to take Cemetery Hill and the network of roads it commanded. His military secretary, A. L. Long, described Lee's thinking:


    There was... a weak point... where [Cemetery Ridge], sloping westward, formed the depression through which the Emmitsburg road passes. Perceiving that by forcing the Federal lines at that point and turning toward Cemetery Hill [Hays' Division] would be taken in flank and the remainder would be neutralized.... Lee determined to attack at that point, and the execution was assigned to
    Longstreet.[2]
    On the night of July 2, Meade correctly predicted at a council of war that Lee would attack the center of his lines the following morning.

    The infantry assault was preceded by a massive artillery bombardment that was meant to soften up the Union defense and silence its artillery, but was largely ineffective. Approximately 12,500 men in nine infantry brigades advanced over open fields for three-quarters of a mile under heavy Union artillery and rifle fire. Although some Confederates were able to breach the low stone wall that shielded many of the Union defenders, they could not maintain their hold and were repulsed with over 50% casualties, a decisive defeat that ended the three-day battle and Lee's campaign into Pennsylvania.[3] Years later, when asked why his charge at Gettysburg failed, Pickett replied: "I've always thought the Yankees had something to do with it."[4]
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    You only bring up the times he was wrong.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    PurpleJ said:

    Don't insult our American heroes like that.

    Only in America can you commit high treason and be considered a hero and have statues, schools, parks, and waterways named after you.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    In America we belief in FREEDOM. He FOUGHT for that. Better than you'll ever do hater.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,691
    PurpleJ said:

    In America we belief in FREEDOM. He FOUGHT for that. Better than you'll ever do hater.

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