TSiO Episode #31: CINCO DE MAYO II
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I'm hearing Tequilla will answer these questions on the next TSIO podcast. You won't want to miss it89ute said:My schedule held up and I was able to listen to the pod today as planned. Way fucking good guys, thank you.
Given all the things you covered and looking at all the posts, I think you have some listeners that don't listen to the whole thing, which is a fucking shame. For example, no one brought up the amount of offers the other Pac 10 schools put out compared to Worshington. (see what I did there?) It's fucking mind blowing that Worshington has 8 commits off of 40 offers, 7 of which are blue chips. Talk about expected value? Fuck, that's a program that has this recruiting shit drilled. the. fuck. down! Then you got Oregon flinging shit against the wall with 133 offers, followed by UCLA. Regarding the SEC, very interesting stuff there too.
As you were going through the offer totals for the rest of the conference it made my dick shrivel to hear Utah has flung out 104 offers. I thought we were more efficient that that, but hey, we have two 4 star commits and one 3 star so far.
I knew our instate recruiting sucked but to hear you guys pull 90% of who you offer made my dick shrivel even more. Fuck. We only have two Utah kids (both 3 stars) in our 2017 class and we all know about the blue chips that went to other programs. Fuck.
Okay @Tequilla, why are you back pedalling on your positive comments about Utah? Furthermore, you dish out a backhanded complement that the balance of our draft picks were late rounds. WeakarmCobra calls you out about it and you tuck your cock between your ass cheeks and agree with him. Then you go on to say you think Whittingham is 2nd because the rest of the Pac 12 sucks? What the fuck? You're either good at developing talent or your not regardless what Graham, Macintyre etc. are doing. So Teq, I wan't to present you with both a challenge, and a question. You made the case that Pete, while at Boise St, put a lot of guys in the NFL what were two stars, some were 1st rounders. Run the stats on both Petersen and Whittingham. # of NFL players, star ranking, when taken in the draft, the more minutiae the better. I'm not claiming one is better than the other at developing talent but I think the information that you mine would be interesting. Yes, I want to beat my meat over the fact that we had 8 players drafted, but I quickly remember that we only had one drafted last year. Overall, we have put a hell of a lot of players into the NFL even though we are not a blue chip program.
As far as our late rounders, these are all 3 star guys, 2 star in Joe Williams' case and one dude totally unranked (Pita Taumoepenu). Plus, look at these guys' offers. Nobody wanted these guys.
DDY, I love you too. Thank you for the mention. Teq and Coker have been good to me too, but more importantly your podcast is outstanding and that's why I listen to the whole thing, including the Janet Reno song at the end.
Shame on all the Doogs out there that are not taking advantage of what you are delivering on these podcasts.
Oh, almost forgot. We've had two Pakistani players on our team, Sausan Shakerin and Bo Nagahi.
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I will try to get around it @89ute ...
If I'm giving the impression that I'm playing both sides on Wittingham that's not my intention ...
I have a lot of respect for Wittingham (I've been very consistent in that) and what he gets out of his team ... the more I look at it the more I'm convinced that Utah is a very difficult job in this conference and I'm not sure what needs to change (will go into this in more detail when not on my phone) ...
As for the draft picks, the only part that I was getting after there was that while the 8 or 9 picks Utah had was impressive ... it must be noted that all but 2 were 3rd day picks ... is being a 7th round pick better or worse than being a UFA? You can definitely argue UFA ...
And regarding Whittingham as 2nd best coach in conference, it is hard for me to say that he clearly is given 1) he hasn't won his division/conference in the P12 and that he tends to hover around 5-4 or 6-3 ... that he has never really answered the QB/WR issue during the balance of his tenure is also an issue. But I put him ahead of Shaw because I feel like Utah generally does a better job maximizing their talent - and that is a reflection of Wittingham. -
This will be interesting. I did some checking. Pete took over Boise St in 2006 and Whitt in 2005. Both were impactful coordinators at their respective programs prior to being the HC. So Pete's 1st draft class would be 2007 and Whitt's 2006. For comparison I threw out Whitt's 1st class, which was two 7th round picks.Tequilla said:I will try to get around it @89ute ...
If I'm giving the impression that I'm playing both sides on Wittingham that's not my intention ...
I have a lot of respect for Wittingham (I've been very consistent in that) and what he gets out of his team ... the more I look at it the more I'm convinced that Utah is a very difficult job in this conference and I'm not sure what needs to change (will go into this in more detail when not on my phone) ...
As for the draft picks, the only part that I was getting after there was that while the 8 or 9 picks Utah had was impressive ... it must be noted that all but 2 were 3rd day picks ... is being a 7th round pick better or worse than being a UFA? You can definitely argue UFA ...
And regarding Whittingham as 2nd best coach in conference, it is hard for me to say that he clearly is given 1) he hasn't won his division/conference in the P12 and that he tends to hover around 5-4 or 6-3 ... that he has never really answered the QB/WR issue during the balance of his tenure is also an issue. But I put him ahead of Shaw because I feel like Utah generally does a better job maximizing their talent - and that is a reflection of Wittingham.
Starting in 2007, Pete has put 31 guys in the NFL. Since he took over in 2014 you might have to give a little credit to Sark for the 2015 class, which had 4 picks, three 1st round and one 2nd round. You can't give Pete all the credit for this particular class but there is enough data here to support that Pete's a hell of a developer.
Whitt since 2007 has put 32 guys in the NFL. I also wrote down the rounds each pick went but it's a big fucking mess on my yellow pad. No discernible pattern, both coaches have picks all over the place. I'm betting the star value of the players will work out to be negligible because Utah and Boise St pretty much attracted similar talent. Pete has had arguably only two Pac-12 classes (16 & 17) and the star value for those guys are probably higher than anything Whitt had to work with since our entry in 2011, given you're Worshington and all. What I think we will see is the average star value of the Utah guys something a little less than 3. Pete's Pac-12 sample isn't as big but I'm interested to see it anyway. -
Pepsi,
What was the story about Nick Harris' helmet that your drunken co-hosts wouldn't let you tell? -
Yeah, what was that?Quietcowskee said:Pepsi,
What was the story about Nick Harris' helmet that your drunken co-hosts wouldn't let you tell? -
He was just pissed off and running from sideline to sideline trying to get a helmet to play with. When he had to wait to get it fixed he just paced and mumbled on the sideline. Dude has some issues, which I appreciate.Quietcowskee said:Pepsi,
What was the story about Nick Harris' helmet that your drunken co-hosts wouldn't let you tell? -
I didn't know you were gay.89ute said:
This will be interesting. I did some checking. Pete took over Boise St in 2006 and Whitt in 2005. Both were impactful coordinators at their respective programs prior to being the HC. So Pete's 1st draft class would be 2007 and Whitt's 2006. For comparison I threw out Whitt's 1st class, which was two 7th round picks.Tequilla said:I will try to get around it @89ute ...
If I'm giving the impression that I'm playing both sides on Wittingham that's not my intention ...
I have a lot of respect for Wittingham (I've been very consistent in that) and what he gets out of his team ... the more I look at it the more I'm convinced that Utah is a very difficult job in this conference and I'm not sure what needs to change (will go into this in more detail when not on my phone) ...
As for the draft picks, the only part that I was getting after there was that while the 8 or 9 picks Utah had was impressive ... it must be noted that all but 2 were 3rd day picks ... is being a 7th round pick better or worse than being a UFA? You can definitely argue UFA ...
And regarding Whittingham as 2nd best coach in conference, it is hard for me to say that he clearly is given 1) he hasn't won his division/conference in the P12 and that he tends to hover around 5-4 or 6-3 ... that he has never really answered the QB/WR issue during the balance of his tenure is also an issue. But I put him ahead of Shaw because I feel like Utah generally does a better job maximizing their talent - and that is a reflection of Wittingham.
Starting in 2007, Pete has put 31 guys in the NFL. Since he took over in 2014 you might have to give a little credit to Sark for the 2015 class, which had 4 picks, three 1st round and one 2nd round. You can't give Pete all the credit for this particular class but there is enough data here to support that Pete's a hell of a developer.
Whitt since 2007 has put 32 guys in the NFL. I also wrote down the rounds each pick went but it's a big fucking mess on my yellow pad. No discernible pattern, both coaches have picks all over the place. I'm betting the star value of the players will work out to be negligible because Utah and Boise St pretty much attracted similar talent. Pete has had arguably only two Pac-12 classes (16 & 17) and the star value for those guys are probably higher than anything Whitt had to work with since our entry in 2011, given you're Worshington and all. What I think we will see is the average star value of the Utah guys something a little less than 3. Pete's Pac-12 sample isn't as big but I'm interested to see it anyway. -
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As far as our late rounders, these are all 3 star guys, 2 star in Joe Williams' case and one dude totally unranked (Pita Taumoepenu). Plus, look at these guys' offers. Nobody wanted these guys.
DDY, I love you too. Thank you for the mention. Teq and Coker have been good to me too, but more importantly your podcast is outstanding and that's why I listen to the whole thing, including the Janet Reno song at the end.
Shame on all the Doogs out there that are not taking advantage of what you are delivering on these podcasts.
Oh, almost forgot. We've had two Pakistani players on our team, Sausan Shakerin and Bo Nagahi. -
He's a member here.AZDuck said:
I didn't know you were gay.89ute said:
This will be interesting. I did some checking. Pete took over Boise St in 2006 and Whitt in 2005. Both were impactful coordinators at their respective programs prior to being the HC. So Pete's 1st draft class would be 2007 and Whitt's 2006. For comparison I threw out Whitt's 1st class, which was two 7th round picks.Tequilla said:I will try to get around it @89ute ...
If I'm giving the impression that I'm playing both sides on Wittingham that's not my intention ...
I have a lot of respect for Wittingham (I've been very consistent in that) and what he gets out of his team ... the more I look at it the more I'm convinced that Utah is a very difficult job in this conference and I'm not sure what needs to change (will go into this in more detail when not on my phone) ...
As for the draft picks, the only part that I was getting after there was that while the 8 or 9 picks Utah had was impressive ... it must be noted that all but 2 were 3rd day picks ... is being a 7th round pick better or worse than being a UFA? You can definitely argue UFA ...
And regarding Whittingham as 2nd best coach in conference, it is hard for me to say that he clearly is given 1) he hasn't won his division/conference in the P12 and that he tends to hover around 5-4 or 6-3 ... that he has never really answered the QB/WR issue during the balance of his tenure is also an issue. But I put him ahead of Shaw because I feel like Utah generally does a better job maximizing their talent - and that is a reflection of Wittingham.
Starting in 2007, Pete has put 31 guys in the NFL. Since he took over in 2014 you might have to give a little credit to Sark for the 2015 class, which had 4 picks, three 1st round and one 2nd round. You can't give Pete all the credit for this particular class but there is enough data here to support that Pete's a hell of a developer.
Whitt since 2007 has put 32 guys in the NFL. I also wrote down the rounds each pick went but it's a big fucking mess on my yellow pad. No discernible pattern, both coaches have picks all over the place. I'm betting the star value of the players will work out to be negligible because Utah and Boise St pretty much attracted similar talent. Pete has had arguably only two Pac-12 classes (16 & 17) and the star value for those guys are probably higher than anything Whitt had to work with since our entry in 2011, given you're Worshington and all. What I think we will see is the average star value of the Utah guys something a little less than 3. Pete's Pac-12 sample isn't as big but I'm interested to see it anyway.
Hth -
Fine. I didn't know he was gay and a submissive bitchy bottom like Tia @Tequilladnc said:
He's a member here.AZDuck said:
I didn't know you were gay.89ute said:
This will be interesting. I did some checking. Pete took over Boise St in 2006 and Whitt in 2005. Both were impactful coordinators at their respective programs prior to being the HC. So Pete's 1st draft class would be 2007 and Whitt's 2006. For comparison I threw out Whitt's 1st class, which was two 7th round picks.Tequilla said:I will try to get around it @89ute ...
If I'm giving the impression that I'm playing both sides on Wittingham that's not my intention ...
I have a lot of respect for Wittingham (I've been very consistent in that) and what he gets out of his team ... the more I look at it the more I'm convinced that Utah is a very difficult job in this conference and I'm not sure what needs to change (will go into this in more detail when not on my phone) ...
As for the draft picks, the only part that I was getting after there was that while the 8 or 9 picks Utah had was impressive ... it must be noted that all but 2 were 3rd day picks ... is being a 7th round pick better or worse than being a UFA? You can definitely argue UFA ...
And regarding Whittingham as 2nd best coach in conference, it is hard for me to say that he clearly is given 1) he hasn't won his division/conference in the P12 and that he tends to hover around 5-4 or 6-3 ... that he has never really answered the QB/WR issue during the balance of his tenure is also an issue. But I put him ahead of Shaw because I feel like Utah generally does a better job maximizing their talent - and that is a reflection of Wittingham.
Starting in 2007, Pete has put 31 guys in the NFL. Since he took over in 2014 you might have to give a little credit to Sark for the 2015 class, which had 4 picks, three 1st round and one 2nd round. You can't give Pete all the credit for this particular class but there is enough data here to support that Pete's a hell of a developer.
Whitt since 2007 has put 32 guys in the NFL. I also wrote down the rounds each pick went but it's a big fucking mess on my yellow pad. No discernible pattern, both coaches have picks all over the place. I'm betting the star value of the players will work out to be negligible because Utah and Boise St pretty much attracted similar talent. Pete has had arguably only two Pac-12 classes (16 & 17) and the star value for those guys are probably higher than anything Whitt had to work with since our entry in 2011, given you're Worshington and all. What I think we will see is the average star value of the Utah guys something a little less than 3. Pete's Pac-12 sample isn't as big but I'm interested to see it anyway.
Hth -
Penis Stew
Time 120 minutes Serves 4
Ingredients
1 pound of penis, ram's or bull's
3 tbls. oil
1 large chopped onion
2 garlic cloves, peeled and chopped
1 tsp coriander seeds, crushed
1 tsp salt
freshly ground black pepper
How to make it
Scald the penis, then drain and clean (doesn't say how you clean a penis. Not sure a guy would know since this penis is, well . . . never mind).
Place the penis in a saucepan, cover with cold water, and bring to a boil.
Remove any scum, then simmer for 10 minutes.
Drain and slice.
Heat the oil in a large skillet.
Add the onion, garlic, and coriander and fry until the onion is golden.
Add the penis slices and fry on both sides for a few minutes.
Stir in the remaining ingredients with a good grinding of pepper, add enough water to cover, and bring to a boil.
Lower the heat, cover, and simmer for about 2 hours, or until tender.
Add a little water from time to time if necessary to prevent burning. -
Bruh.TurdBuffer said:Penis Stew
Time 120 minutes Serves 4
Ingredients
1 pound of penis, ram's or bull's
3 tbls. oil
1 large chopped onion
2 garlic cloves, peeled and chopped
1 tsp coriander seeds, crushed
1 tsp salt
freshly ground black pepper
How to make it
Scald the penis, then drain and clean (doesn't say how you clean a penis. Not sure a guy would know since this penis is, well . . . never mind).
Place the penis in a saucepan, cover with cold water, and bring to a boil.
Remove any scum, then simmer for 10 minutes.
Drain and slice.
Heat the oil in a large skillet.
Add the onion, garlic, and coriander and fry until the onion is golden.
Add the penis slices and fry on both sides for a few minutes.
Stir in the remaining ingredients with a good grinding of pepper, add enough water to cover, and bring to a boil.
Lower the heat, cover, and simmer for about 2 hours, or until tender.
Add a little water from time to time if necessary to prevent burning.
The parents of Penei Sewell read this bored. -
Warning - way too long response incoming. Don't read this unless you hate yourself. Seriously, don't do it.
Finally found time to listen semi zoned in to this monstrosity. Some random thoughts:
1. The festive music made me lol and surprisingly held up all the way through.
2. Speaking of all the way through...two 1/2 hours is LOOOOOOONG. May I suggest cutting future episodes into parts and releasing it over a span of a couple of days? This could have been three 45 minute parts rather easily (pt 1. spring practice and updated weights review, pt 2. husky draft review, pt 3. recruiting analysis...something like that). Would make it less daunting to listen to and rack up more listens/downloads/whatever the fuck metric you guys use. Win win.
3. @Dennis_DeYoung's haiku and alcohol induced admission that he's white broke my heart. Stay in character man!
4. LOL at hating on mixed kids tho. I still love you.Nohomo.
5. Teq telling anyone who thinks someone on that pod is a doog to fuck off - LMFAO. Petersen's excellence doesn't change wash away your doogy sins. Nor mine.
6. "No one in the conference talks about Taylor Rapp". I disagree pretty strongly here. I've seen him get tons of love this offseason. Every national or regional article talks about how UW is in good shape to replace the secondary thank especially to Taylor Rapp. Subjective awards bullshit plays well in such quarters and his frosh DPOY was big time, as were his four picks in UW's two biggest conference games. I know you still have a chip on your collective shoulders because he was chronically undervalued by the TBS sites but those days are behind us now. He's not being overlooked anymore.
7. DDY, great fucking info on Pete's player development prowess. Especially loved the data on how much better he was at turning 2 stars into first rounders at Boise than everyone else. He's the shit.
8. Enjoyed the data on how many offers we? have out vis a vis other programs as well. @CokeGreaterThanPepsi any chance you also have our current number of 2019 offers relative to USC and Oregon?
9. Qualls isn't a dumbass for coming out. He's a dumbass for not getting in shape. He had damn near four months from the BAMA game to the draft. If he gave a shit he could have done fine in the draft, because as you guys noted, he had the tape. But if he didn't give a shit about his draft stock (and he obviously didn't), it wouldn't have gotten better next year. He wasn't going to put up better tape next season. And he wouldn't have come back as the man on the DL either. That was always going to be Vea.
In conclusion, yes he's a dumbass. But for different reasons than you guys cited.
10. Really interesting discussion about what Pac12 (Ten!) school you would choose after UW if you wanted to get drafted. Utah is a great choice for everyone except WR and QB as someone (Teq?) noted. I think you guys are underrating Stanford though. My guess (and I could be wrong) is that this year was an anomaly and Shaw does a lot better than 2 picks per draft. Even so, two first round picks is two first round picks. I think Stanford has to be in the discussion.
The interesting school to me is Colorado, specifically in the secondary. Their secondary was great last year, and really well coached/developed. Great athletes too. The question is, was this a Leavitt thing, or a DB coach (and if so, did he stick around or jump ship as well? Little help @BuffBuffPass?). My guess is Colorado is no longer a thing with Leavitt gone, but it will be chinteresting to see develop.
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12. Profit -
Thanks for the comments @dnc
Regarding pod length, this may sound crazy but there are a lot of people that really like our pod length as they do a lot of listening on flights, traffic, etc.
But it is definitely a fair point and something we always struggle with as we normally aim for 90-120 minute pods ... one thing we won't do though is stop a pod because we are X amount of time into it ... IMO by far the best aspect of this pod was the 20 or so minutes leading into Haiku's ...
I'm still holding out hope that someday we will get to 100 downloads ... Dennis and Pepsi think I'm crazy -
I wasn't suggesting stopping your conversation since you're x minutes in, just that you could splice it down after the fact.Tequilla said:Thanks for the comments @dnc
Regarding pod length, this may sound crazy but there are a lot of people that really like our pod length as they do a lot of listening on flights, traffic, etc.
But it is definitely a fair point and something we always struggle with as we normally aim for 90-120 minute pods ... one thing we won't do though is stop a pod because we are X amount of time into it ... IMO by far the best aspect of this pod was the 20 or so minutes leading into Haiku's ...
I'm still holding out hope that someday we will get to 100 downloads ... Dennis and Pepsi think I'm crazy
Not sure if serious, but I don't think 100 downloads is out of reach at all.
I will say that if you're shooting for growth the fact your hardcore listeners might not be scared off by the long pods shouldn't factor in. To someone looking at you on itunes who has never listened I imagine that length could scare them off.
Regardless, I'll leave it alone from there, its your pod and you guys do good work. -
Thanks for listening @dnc. To point #2, the funny thing is that our longest podcasts are, without question, our most downloaded podcasts, this one has a chance to maybe get into the 20 download range! Trust me, we talk a LOT about length of pods, but people listen to those long ones. In season we will for sure try to be shorter, and it also helps save @Dennis_DeYoung from hours of editing when we can keep it under 90 minutes.
Point 6, I love Taylor Rapp and I just want him all to myself. Purely selfish, fully admit it. You are right.
Point 10, Colorado is a good call for that shit, but we need to see more proof in their pudding. Stanford is interesting because they have recruited so well, but they just don't seem to be developing guys all that well, honestly.
Point 12, I take donations and bribes. -
Definitely not saying that you were ... but it's part of the reason we run long at times besides having 2 blowhards like Dennis and I not helping (the pod would be 5 minutes of dead air if Pepsi was in charge ...
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No, seriously, feel free to give feedback anytime. Everything you are bringing up, the three of us have discussed, so it's not like you are insulting us or anything.dnc said:
I wasn't suggesting stopping your conversation since you're x minutes in, just that you could splice it down after the fact.Tequilla said:Thanks for the comments @dnc
Regarding pod length, this may sound crazy but there are a lot of people that really like our pod length as they do a lot of listening on flights, traffic, etc.
But it is definitely a fair point and something we always struggle with as we normally aim for 90-120 minute pods ... one thing we won't do though is stop a pod because we are X amount of time into it ... IMO by far the best aspect of this pod was the 20 or so minutes leading into Haiku's ...
I'm still holding out hope that someday we will get to 100 downloads ... Dennis and Pepsi think I'm crazy
Not sure if serious, but I don't think 100 downloads is out of reach at all.
I will say that if you're shooting for growth the fact your hardcore listeners might not be scared off by the long pods shouldn't factor in. To someone looking at you on itunes who has never listened I imagine that length could scare them off.
Regardless, I'll leave it alone from there, its your pod and you guys do good work.
For me, our signing day pod and the cinco pod will always be two of the longest just because we have so much to talk about for signing day, and then cinco lines up with post spring and the shit fest that is tequilla and dennis drinking.
The problem with breaking up the pods is editing for dennis (more tim) and storage issues on the backend (that's what she said). -
What makes you say this other than this year's draft? Here are their last four draft classes.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Thanks for listening @dnc. To point #2, the funny thing is that our longest podcasts are, without question, our most downloaded podcasts, this one has a chance to maybe get into the 20 download range! Trust me, we talk a LOT about length of pods, but people listen to those long ones. In season we will for sure try to be shorter, and it also helps save @Dennis_DeYoung from hours of editing when we can keep it under 90 minutes.
Point 6, I love Taylor Rapp and I just want him all to myself. Purely selfish, fully admit it. You are right.
Point 10, Colorado is a good call for that shit, but we need to see more proof in their pudding. Stanford is interesting because they have recruited so well, but they just don't seem to be developing guys all that well, honestly.
Point 12, I take donations and bribes.
2014 - 6 players drafted (one second round, one fourth, two fifths, one sixth and a seventh)
2015 - 6 players drafted (one first, a second, three thirds and a fifth)
2016 - 5 players drafted (one first, one third, one fourth, one fifth and a sixth)
2017 - 2 players drafted (two first)
Four year total - 19 players drafted (average of 4.75 per year).
Four first round/day picks, six second day picks (two second rounders, four third rounders), 9 third day picks (two fourths, four fifth, two six, one seventh).
That's not BAMA level productivity but I'd be surprised if there's more than 10 or 15 programs that have done better in that span.
I don't think there's evidence they're underachieving. -
Fuck you and your stats, I'm just going to go gently sob in the corner, because you wrecked me. I hadn't looked at their numbers like that. I just felt like they didn't hit in the draft like that. Well done, sir. And fuck you.dnc said:
What makes you say this other than this year's draft? Here are their last four draft classes.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Thanks for listening @dnc. To point #2, the funny thing is that our longest podcasts are, without question, our most downloaded podcasts, this one has a chance to maybe get into the 20 download range! Trust me, we talk a LOT about length of pods, but people listen to those long ones. In season we will for sure try to be shorter, and it also helps save @Dennis_DeYoung from hours of editing when we can keep it under 90 minutes.
Point 6, I love Taylor Rapp and I just want him all to myself. Purely selfish, fully admit it. You are right.
Point 10, Colorado is a good call for that shit, but we need to see more proof in their pudding. Stanford is interesting because they have recruited so well, but they just don't seem to be developing guys all that well, honestly.
Point 12, I take donations and bribes.
2014 - 6 players drafted (one second round, one fourth, two fifths, one sixth and a seventh)
2015 - 6 players drafted (one first, a second, three thirds and a fifth)
2016 - 5 players drafted (one first, one third, one fourth, one fifth and a sixth)
2017 - 2 players drafted (two first)
Four year total - 19 players drafted (average of 4.75 per year).
Four first round/day picks, six second day picks (two second rounders, four third rounders), 9 third day picks (two fourths, four fifth, two six, one seventh).
That's not BAMA level productivity but I'd be surprised if there's more than 10 or 15 programs that have done better in that span.
I don't think there's evidence they're underachieving. -
Stanford is 64-17 under Shaw. That's at Stanford too. They haven't underachieved.
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I hear a move to Friday Harbor can do wonders for the traffic.dnc said:
I wasn't suggesting stopping your conversation since you're x minutes in, just that you could splice it down after the fact.Tequilla said:Thanks for the comments @dnc
Regarding pod length, this may sound crazy but there are a lot of people that really like our pod length as they do a lot of listening on flights, traffic, etc.
But it is definitely a fair point and something we always struggle with as we normally aim for 90-120 minute pods ... one thing we won't do though is stop a pod because we are X amount of time into it ... IMO by far the best aspect of this pod was the 20 or so minutes leading into Haiku's ...
I'm still holding out hope that someday we will get to 100 downloads ... Dennis and Pepsi think I'm crazy
Not sure if serious, but I don't think 100 downloads is out of reach at all.
I will say that if you're shooting for growth the fact your hardcore listeners might not be scared off by the long pods shouldn't factor in. To someone looking at you on itunes who has never listened I imagine that length could scare them off.
Regardless, I'll leave it alone from there, its your pod and you guys do good work. -
Clark was the DBs coach and went to Oregon with Leavitt. Leavitt's past is as a LBs coach so he didn't likely have as much to do with the secondary but he did help bring an overall attitude to the D. MacIntyre's past is as a DB coach and he was rumored to have substantial involvement in the secondary.dnc said:Warning - way too long response incoming. Don't read this unless you hate yourself. Seriously, don't do it.
Finally found time to listen semi zoned in to this monstrosity. Some random thoughts:
1. The festive music made me lol and surprisingly held up all the way through.
2. Speaking of all the way through...two 1/2 hours is LOOOOOOONG. May I suggest cutting future episodes into parts and releasing it over a span of a couple of days? This could have been three 45 minute parts rather easily (pt 1. spring practice and updated weights review, pt 2. husky draft review, pt 3. recruiting analysis...something like that). Would make it less daunting to listen to and rack up more listens/downloads/whatever the fuck metric you guys use. Win win.
3. @Dennis_DeYoung's haiku and alcohol induced admission that he's white broke my heart. Stay in character man!
4. LOL at hating on mixed kids tho. I still love you.Nohomo.
5. Teq telling anyone who thinks someone on that pod is a doog to fuck off - LMFAO. Petersen's excellence doesn't change wash away your doogy sins. Nor mine.
6. "No one in the conference talks about Taylor Rapp". I disagree pretty strongly here. I've seen him get tons of love this offseason. Every national or regional article talks about how UW is in good shape to replace the secondary thank especially to Taylor Rapp. Subjective awards bullshit plays well in such quarters and his frosh DPOY was big time, as were his four picks in UW's two biggest conference games. I know you still have a chip on your collective shoulders because he was chronically undervalued by the TBS sites but those days are behind us now. He's not being overlooked anymore.
7. DDY, great fucking info on Pete's player development prowess. Especially loved the data on how much better he was at turning 2 stars into first rounders at Boise than everyone else. He's the shit.
8. Enjoyed the data on how many offers we? have out vis a vis other programs as well. @CokeGreaterThanPepsi any chance you also have our current number of 2019 offers relative to USC and Oregon?
9. Qualls isn't a dumbass for coming out. He's a dumbass for not getting in shape. He had damn near four months from the BAMA game to the draft. If he gave a shit he could have done fine in the draft, because as you guys noted, he had the tape. But if he didn't give a shit about his draft stock (and he obviously didn't), it wouldn't have gotten better next year. He wasn't going to put up better tape next season. And he wouldn't have come back as the man on the DL either. That was always going to be Vea.
In conclusion, yes he's a dumbass. But for different reasons than you guys cited.
10. Really interesting discussion about what Pac12 (Ten!) school you would choose after UW if you wanted to get drafted. Utah is a great choice for everyone except WR and QB as someone (Teq?) noted. I think you guys are underrating Stanford though. My guess (and I could be wrong) is that this year was an anomaly and Shaw does a lot better than 2 picks per draft. Even so, two first round picks is two first round picks. I think Stanford has to be in the discussion.
The interesting school to me is Colorado, specifically in the secondary. Their secondary was great last year, and really well coached/developed. Great athletes too. The question is, was this a Leavitt thing, or a DB coach (and if so, did he stick around or jump ship as well? Little help @BuffBuffPass?). My guess is Colorado is no longer a thing with Leavitt gone, but it will be chinteresting to see develop.
11. ?
12. Profit
I have to imagine the secondary will take a step back this year, losing 3 draft picks. However, the replacements played well in limited duty last year and there are a couple JC guys coming in. I'd expect them to be OK, but not great.
-
I will try to take a look at their historical picks this week and put a summary together ...dnc said:
What makes you say this other than this year's draft? Here are their last four draft classes.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Thanks for listening @dnc. To point #2, the funny thing is that our longest podcasts are, without question, our most downloaded podcasts, this one has a chance to maybe get into the 20 download range! Trust me, we talk a LOT about length of pods, but people listen to those long ones. In season we will for sure try to be shorter, and it also helps save @Dennis_DeYoung from hours of editing when we can keep it under 90 minutes.
Point 6, I love Taylor Rapp and I just want him all to myself. Purely selfish, fully admit it. You are right.
Point 10, Colorado is a good call for that shit, but we need to see more proof in their pudding. Stanford is interesting because they have recruited so well, but they just don't seem to be developing guys all that well, honestly.
Point 12, I take donations and bribes.
2014 - 6 players drafted (one second round, one fourth, two fifths, one sixth and a seventh)
2015 - 6 players drafted (one first, a second, three thirds and a fifth)
2016 - 5 players drafted (one first, one third, one fourth, one fifth and a sixth)
2017 - 2 players drafted (two first)
Four year total - 19 players drafted (average of 4.75 per year).
Four first round/day picks, six second day picks (two second rounders, four third rounders), 9 third day picks (two fourths, four fifth, two six, one seventh).
That's not BAMA level productivity but I'd be surprised if there's more than 10 or 15 programs that have done better in that span.
I don't think there's evidence they're underachieving.
I'm not a huge Shaw fan ... I think he's largely overrated ... next 2 years will be very telling -
I don't remember any of that stuff. I just remember being drunk.dnc said:Warning - way too long response incoming. Don't read this unless you hate yourself. Seriously, don't do it.
Finally found time to listen semi zoned in to this monstrosity. Some random thoughts:
1. The festive music made me lol and surprisingly held up all the way through.
2. Speaking of all the way through...two 1/2 hours is LOOOOOOONG. May I suggest cutting future episodes into parts and releasing it over a span of a couple of days? This could have been three 45 minute parts rather easily (pt 1. spring practice and updated weights review, pt 2. husky draft review, pt 3. recruiting analysis...something like that). Would make it less daunting to listen to and rack up more listens/downloads/whatever the fuck metric you guys use. Win win.
3. @Dennis_DeYoung's haiku and alcohol induced admission that he's white broke my heart. Stay in character man!
4. LOL at hating on mixed kids tho. I still love you.Nohomo.
5. Teq telling anyone who thinks someone on that pod is a doog to fuck off - LMFAO. Petersen's excellence doesn't change wash away your doogy sins. Nor mine.
6. "No one in the conference talks about Taylor Rapp". I disagree pretty strongly here. I've seen him get tons of love this offseason. Every national or regional article talks about how UW is in good shape to replace the secondary thank especially to Taylor Rapp. Subjective awards bullshit plays well in such quarters and his frosh DPOY was big time, as were his four picks in UW's two biggest conference games. I know you still have a chip on your collective shoulders because he was chronically undervalued by the TBS sites but those days are behind us now. He's not being overlooked anymore.
7. DDY, great fucking info on Pete's player development prowess. Especially loved the data on how much better he was at turning 2 stars into first rounders at Boise than everyone else. He's the shit.
8. Enjoyed the data on how many offers we? have out vis a vis other programs as well. @CokeGreaterThanPepsi any chance you also have our current number of 2019 offers relative to USC and Oregon?
9. Qualls isn't a dumbass for coming out. He's a dumbass for not getting in shape. He had damn near four months from the BAMA game to the draft. If he gave a shit he could have done fine in the draft, because as you guys noted, he had the tape. But if he didn't give a shit about his draft stock (and he obviously didn't), it wouldn't have gotten better next year. He wasn't going to put up better tape next season. And he wouldn't have come back as the man on the DL either. That was always going to be Vea.
In conclusion, yes he's a dumbass. But for different reasons than you guys cited.
10. Really interesting discussion about what Pac12 (Ten!) school you would choose after UW if you wanted to get drafted. Utah is a great choice for everyone except WR and QB as someone (Teq?) noted. I think you guys are underrating Stanford though. My guess (and I could be wrong) is that this year was an anomaly and Shaw does a lot better than 2 picks per draft. Even so, two first round picks is two first round picks. I think Stanford has to be in the discussion.
The interesting school to me is Colorado, specifically in the secondary. Their secondary was great last year, and really well coached/developed. Great athletes too. The question is, was this a Leavitt thing, or a DB coach (and if so, did he stick around or jump ship as well? Little help @BuffBuffPass?). My guess is Colorado is no longer a thing with Leavitt gone, but it will be chinteresting to see develop.
11. ?
12. Profit -
I love @BuffBuffPass. Thank you for giving a shit about the Buffs when no one else does around here.BuffBuffPass said:
Clark was the DBs coach and went to Oregon with Leavitt. Leavitt's past is as a LBs coach so he didn't likely have as much to do with the secondary but he did help bring an overall attitude to the D. MacIntyre's past is as a DB coach and he was rumored to have substantial involvement in the secondary.dnc said:Warning - way too long response incoming. Don't read this unless you hate yourself. Seriously, don't do it.
Finally found time to listen semi zoned in to this monstrosity. Some random thoughts:
1. The festive music made me lol and surprisingly held up all the way through.
2. Speaking of all the way through...two 1/2 hours is LOOOOOOONG. May I suggest cutting future episodes into parts and releasing it over a span of a couple of days? This could have been three 45 minute parts rather easily (pt 1. spring practice and updated weights review, pt 2. husky draft review, pt 3. recruiting analysis...something like that). Would make it less daunting to listen to and rack up more listens/downloads/whatever the fuck metric you guys use. Win win.
3. @Dennis_DeYoung's haiku and alcohol induced admission that he's white broke my heart. Stay in character man!
4. LOL at hating on mixed kids tho. I still love you.Nohomo.
5. Teq telling anyone who thinks someone on that pod is a doog to fuck off - LMFAO. Petersen's excellence doesn't change wash away your doogy sins. Nor mine.
6. "No one in the conference talks about Taylor Rapp". I disagree pretty strongly here. I've seen him get tons of love this offseason. Every national or regional article talks about how UW is in good shape to replace the secondary thank especially to Taylor Rapp. Subjective awards bullshit plays well in such quarters and his frosh DPOY was big time, as were his four picks in UW's two biggest conference games. I know you still have a chip on your collective shoulders because he was chronically undervalued by the TBS sites but those days are behind us now. He's not being overlooked anymore.
7. DDY, great fucking info on Pete's player development prowess. Especially loved the data on how much better he was at turning 2 stars into first rounders at Boise than everyone else. He's the shit.
8. Enjoyed the data on how many offers we? have out vis a vis other programs as well. @CokeGreaterThanPepsi any chance you also have our current number of 2019 offers relative to USC and Oregon?
9. Qualls isn't a dumbass for coming out. He's a dumbass for not getting in shape. He had damn near four months from the BAMA game to the draft. If he gave a shit he could have done fine in the draft, because as you guys noted, he had the tape. But if he didn't give a shit about his draft stock (and he obviously didn't), it wouldn't have gotten better next year. He wasn't going to put up better tape next season. And he wouldn't have come back as the man on the DL either. That was always going to be Vea.
In conclusion, yes he's a dumbass. But for different reasons than you guys cited.
10. Really interesting discussion about what Pac12 (Ten!) school you would choose after UW if you wanted to get drafted. Utah is a great choice for everyone except WR and QB as someone (Teq?) noted. I think you guys are underrating Stanford though. My guess (and I could be wrong) is that this year was an anomaly and Shaw does a lot better than 2 picks per draft. Even so, two first round picks is two first round picks. I think Stanford has to be in the discussion.
The interesting school to me is Colorado, specifically in the secondary. Their secondary was great last year, and really well coached/developed. Great athletes too. The question is, was this a Leavitt thing, or a DB coach (and if so, did he stick around or jump ship as well? Little help @BuffBuffPass?). My guess is Colorado is no longer a thing with Leavitt gone, but it will be chinteresting to see develop.
11. ?
12. Profit
I have to imagine the secondary will take a step back this year, losing 3 draft picks. However, the replacements played well in limited duty last year and there are a couple JC guys coming in. I'd expect them to be OK, but not great.
My hope is one day we have a fan from every other school to talk about them with.
The problem is no one even knows Arizona has a football team, so that's going to be a tough nut to crack.
And Stanford? How do we find the Stanford fan? He's elusive. -
Are there any UCLA fans now that @Ballsacked died? Even he wasn't a real fan.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I love @BuffBuffPass. Thank you for giving a shit about the Buffs when no one else does around here.BuffBuffPass said:
Clark was the DBs coach and went to Oregon with Leavitt. Leavitt's past is as a LBs coach so he didn't likely have as much to do with the secondary but he did help bring an overall attitude to the D. MacIntyre's past is as a DB coach and he was rumored to have substantial involvement in the secondary.dnc said:Warning - way too long response incoming. Don't read this unless you hate yourself. Seriously, don't do it.
Finally found time to listen semi zoned in to this monstrosity. Some random thoughts:
1. The festive music made me lol and surprisingly held up all the way through.
2. Speaking of all the way through...two 1/2 hours is LOOOOOOONG. May I suggest cutting future episodes into parts and releasing it over a span of a couple of days? This could have been three 45 minute parts rather easily (pt 1. spring practice and updated weights review, pt 2. husky draft review, pt 3. recruiting analysis...something like that). Would make it less daunting to listen to and rack up more listens/downloads/whatever the fuck metric you guys use. Win win.
3. @Dennis_DeYoung's haiku and alcohol induced admission that he's white broke my heart. Stay in character man!
4. LOL at hating on mixed kids tho. I still love you.Nohomo.
5. Teq telling anyone who thinks someone on that pod is a doog to fuck off - LMFAO. Petersen's excellence doesn't change wash away your doogy sins. Nor mine.
6. "No one in the conference talks about Taylor Rapp". I disagree pretty strongly here. I've seen him get tons of love this offseason. Every national or regional article talks about how UW is in good shape to replace the secondary thank especially to Taylor Rapp. Subjective awards bullshit plays well in such quarters and his frosh DPOY was big time, as were his four picks in UW's two biggest conference games. I know you still have a chip on your collective shoulders because he was chronically undervalued by the TBS sites but those days are behind us now. He's not being overlooked anymore.
7. DDY, great fucking info on Pete's player development prowess. Especially loved the data on how much better he was at turning 2 stars into first rounders at Boise than everyone else. He's the shit.
8. Enjoyed the data on how many offers we? have out vis a vis other programs as well. @CokeGreaterThanPepsi any chance you also have our current number of 2019 offers relative to USC and Oregon?
9. Qualls isn't a dumbass for coming out. He's a dumbass for not getting in shape. He had damn near four months from the BAMA game to the draft. If he gave a shit he could have done fine in the draft, because as you guys noted, he had the tape. But if he didn't give a shit about his draft stock (and he obviously didn't), it wouldn't have gotten better next year. He wasn't going to put up better tape next season. And he wouldn't have come back as the man on the DL either. That was always going to be Vea.
In conclusion, yes he's a dumbass. But for different reasons than you guys cited.
10. Really interesting discussion about what Pac12 (Ten!) school you would choose after UW if you wanted to get drafted. Utah is a great choice for everyone except WR and QB as someone (Teq?) noted. I think you guys are underrating Stanford though. My guess (and I could be wrong) is that this year was an anomaly and Shaw does a lot better than 2 picks per draft. Even so, two first round picks is two first round picks. I think Stanford has to be in the discussion.
The interesting school to me is Colorado, specifically in the secondary. Their secondary was great last year, and really well coached/developed. Great athletes too. The question is, was this a Leavitt thing, or a DB coach (and if so, did he stick around or jump ship as well? Little help @BuffBuffPass?). My guess is Colorado is no longer a thing with Leavitt gone, but it will be chinteresting to see develop.
11. ?
12. Profit
I have to imagine the secondary will take a step back this year, losing 3 draft picks. However, the replacements played well in limited duty last year and there are a couple JC guys coming in. I'd expect them to be OK, but not great.
My hope is one day we have a fan from every other school to talk about them with.
The problem is no one even knows Arizona has a football team, so that's going to be a tough nut to crack.
And Stanford? How do we find the Stanford fan? He's elusive. -
I specifically left out UCLA "fans" for this very reason. It is preposterous to even posit there could be such a thing as a UCLA fan.RoadDawg55 said:
Are there any UCLA fans now that @Ballsacked died? Even he wasn't a real fan.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I love @BuffBuffPass. Thank you for giving a shit about the Buffs when no one else does around here.BuffBuffPass said:
Clark was the DBs coach and went to Oregon with Leavitt. Leavitt's past is as a LBs coach so he didn't likely have as much to do with the secondary but he did help bring an overall attitude to the D. MacIntyre's past is as a DB coach and he was rumored to have substantial involvement in the secondary.dnc said:Warning - way too long response incoming. Don't read this unless you hate yourself. Seriously, don't do it.
Finally found time to listen semi zoned in to this monstrosity. Some random thoughts:
1. The festive music made me lol and surprisingly held up all the way through.
2. Speaking of all the way through...two 1/2 hours is LOOOOOOONG. May I suggest cutting future episodes into parts and releasing it over a span of a couple of days? This could have been three 45 minute parts rather easily (pt 1. spring practice and updated weights review, pt 2. husky draft review, pt 3. recruiting analysis...something like that). Would make it less daunting to listen to and rack up more listens/downloads/whatever the fuck metric you guys use. Win win.
3. @Dennis_DeYoung's haiku and alcohol induced admission that he's white broke my heart. Stay in character man!
4. LOL at hating on mixed kids tho. I still love you.Nohomo.
5. Teq telling anyone who thinks someone on that pod is a doog to fuck off - LMFAO. Petersen's excellence doesn't change wash away your doogy sins. Nor mine.
6. "No one in the conference talks about Taylor Rapp". I disagree pretty strongly here. I've seen him get tons of love this offseason. Every national or regional article talks about how UW is in good shape to replace the secondary thank especially to Taylor Rapp. Subjective awards bullshit plays well in such quarters and his frosh DPOY was big time, as were his four picks in UW's two biggest conference games. I know you still have a chip on your collective shoulders because he was chronically undervalued by the TBS sites but those days are behind us now. He's not being overlooked anymore.
7. DDY, great fucking info on Pete's player development prowess. Especially loved the data on how much better he was at turning 2 stars into first rounders at Boise than everyone else. He's the shit.
8. Enjoyed the data on how many offers we? have out vis a vis other programs as well. @CokeGreaterThanPepsi any chance you also have our current number of 2019 offers relative to USC and Oregon?
9. Qualls isn't a dumbass for coming out. He's a dumbass for not getting in shape. He had damn near four months from the BAMA game to the draft. If he gave a shit he could have done fine in the draft, because as you guys noted, he had the tape. But if he didn't give a shit about his draft stock (and he obviously didn't), it wouldn't have gotten better next year. He wasn't going to put up better tape next season. And he wouldn't have come back as the man on the DL either. That was always going to be Vea.
In conclusion, yes he's a dumbass. But for different reasons than you guys cited.
10. Really interesting discussion about what Pac12 (Ten!) school you would choose after UW if you wanted to get drafted. Utah is a great choice for everyone except WR and QB as someone (Teq?) noted. I think you guys are underrating Stanford though. My guess (and I could be wrong) is that this year was an anomaly and Shaw does a lot better than 2 picks per draft. Even so, two first round picks is two first round picks. I think Stanford has to be in the discussion.
The interesting school to me is Colorado, specifically in the secondary. Their secondary was great last year, and really well coached/developed. Great athletes too. The question is, was this a Leavitt thing, or a DB coach (and if so, did he stick around or jump ship as well? Little help @BuffBuffPass?). My guess is Colorado is no longer a thing with Leavitt gone, but it will be chinteresting to see develop.
11. ?
12. Profit
I have to imagine the secondary will take a step back this year, losing 3 draft picks. However, the replacements played well in limited duty last year and there are a couple JC guys coming in. I'd expect them to be OK, but not great.
My hope is one day we have a fan from every other school to talk about them with.
The problem is no one even knows Arizona has a football team, so that's going to be a tough nut to crack.
And Stanford? How do we find the Stanford fan? He's elusive. -
Aside from accidentally watching the 2013 UCLA vs ASU game in DC in the UCLA alumni bar I don't think I've ever met a UCLA football fan.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I specifically left out UCLA "fans" for this very reason. It is preposterous to even posit there could be such a thing as a UCLA fan.RoadDawg55 said:
Are there any UCLA fans now that @Ballsacked died? Even he wasn't a real fan.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I love @BuffBuffPass. Thank you for giving a shit about the Buffs when no one else does around here.BuffBuffPass said:
Clark was the DBs coach and went to Oregon with Leavitt. Leavitt's past is as a LBs coach so he didn't likely have as much to do with the secondary but he did help bring an overall attitude to the D. MacIntyre's past is as a DB coach and he was rumored to have substantial involvement in the secondary.dnc said:Warning - way too long response incoming. Don't read this unless you hate yourself. Seriously, don't do it.
Finally found time to listen semi zoned in to this monstrosity. Some random thoughts:
1. The festive music made me lol and surprisingly held up all the way through.
2. Speaking of all the way through...two 1/2 hours is LOOOOOOONG. May I suggest cutting future episodes into parts and releasing it over a span of a couple of days? This could have been three 45 minute parts rather easily (pt 1. spring practice and updated weights review, pt 2. husky draft review, pt 3. recruiting analysis...something like that). Would make it less daunting to listen to and rack up more listens/downloads/whatever the fuck metric you guys use. Win win.
3. @Dennis_DeYoung's haiku and alcohol induced admission that he's white broke my heart. Stay in character man!
4. LOL at hating on mixed kids tho. I still love you.Nohomo.
5. Teq telling anyone who thinks someone on that pod is a doog to fuck off - LMFAO. Petersen's excellence doesn't change wash away your doogy sins. Nor mine.
6. "No one in the conference talks about Taylor Rapp". I disagree pretty strongly here. I've seen him get tons of love this offseason. Every national or regional article talks about how UW is in good shape to replace the secondary thank especially to Taylor Rapp. Subjective awards bullshit plays well in such quarters and his frosh DPOY was big time, as were his four picks in UW's two biggest conference games. I know you still have a chip on your collective shoulders because he was chronically undervalued by the TBS sites but those days are behind us now. He's not being overlooked anymore.
7. DDY, great fucking info on Pete's player development prowess. Especially loved the data on how much better he was at turning 2 stars into first rounders at Boise than everyone else. He's the shit.
8. Enjoyed the data on how many offers we? have out vis a vis other programs as well. @CokeGreaterThanPepsi any chance you also have our current number of 2019 offers relative to USC and Oregon?
9. Qualls isn't a dumbass for coming out. He's a dumbass for not getting in shape. He had damn near four months from the BAMA game to the draft. If he gave a shit he could have done fine in the draft, because as you guys noted, he had the tape. But if he didn't give a shit about his draft stock (and he obviously didn't), it wouldn't have gotten better next year. He wasn't going to put up better tape next season. And he wouldn't have come back as the man on the DL either. That was always going to be Vea.
In conclusion, yes he's a dumbass. But for different reasons than you guys cited.
10. Really interesting discussion about what Pac12 (Ten!) school you would choose after UW if you wanted to get drafted. Utah is a great choice for everyone except WR and QB as someone (Teq?) noted. I think you guys are underrating Stanford though. My guess (and I could be wrong) is that this year was an anomaly and Shaw does a lot better than 2 picks per draft. Even so, two first round picks is two first round picks. I think Stanford has to be in the discussion.
The interesting school to me is Colorado, specifically in the secondary. Their secondary was great last year, and really well coached/developed. Great athletes too. The question is, was this a Leavitt thing, or a DB coach (and if so, did he stick around or jump ship as well? Little help @BuffBuffPass?). My guess is Colorado is no longer a thing with Leavitt gone, but it will be chinteresting to see develop.
11. ?
12. Profit
I have to imagine the secondary will take a step back this year, losing 3 draft picks. However, the replacements played well in limited duty last year and there are a couple JC guys coming in. I'd expect them to be OK, but not great.
My hope is one day we have a fan from every other school to talk about them with.
The problem is no one even knows Arizona has a football team, so that's going to be a tough nut to crack.
And Stanford? How do we find the Stanford fan? He's elusive.
That was some uncomfortable shit. -
It was only when I lived in LA did I realize there are no UCLA fans and most of USC's fans think they are a pro team.Pitchfork51 said:
Aside from accidentally watching the 2013 UCLA vs ASU game in DC in the UCLA alumni bar I don't think I've ever met a UCLA football fan.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I specifically left out UCLA "fans" for this very reason. It is preposterous to even posit there could be such a thing as a UCLA fan.RoadDawg55 said:
Are there any UCLA fans now that @Ballsacked died? Even he wasn't a real fan.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I love @BuffBuffPass. Thank you for giving a shit about the Buffs when no one else does around here.BuffBuffPass said:
Clark was the DBs coach and went to Oregon with Leavitt. Leavitt's past is as a LBs coach so he didn't likely have as much to do with the secondary but he did help bring an overall attitude to the D. MacIntyre's past is as a DB coach and he was rumored to have substantial involvement in the secondary.dnc said:Warning - way too long response incoming. Don't read this unless you hate yourself. Seriously, don't do it.
Finally found time to listen semi zoned in to this monstrosity. Some random thoughts:
1. The festive music made me lol and surprisingly held up all the way through.
2. Speaking of all the way through...two 1/2 hours is LOOOOOOONG. May I suggest cutting future episodes into parts and releasing it over a span of a couple of days? This could have been three 45 minute parts rather easily (pt 1. spring practice and updated weights review, pt 2. husky draft review, pt 3. recruiting analysis...something like that). Would make it less daunting to listen to and rack up more listens/downloads/whatever the fuck metric you guys use. Win win.
3. @Dennis_DeYoung's haiku and alcohol induced admission that he's white broke my heart. Stay in character man!
4. LOL at hating on mixed kids tho. I still love you.Nohomo.
5. Teq telling anyone who thinks someone on that pod is a doog to fuck off - LMFAO. Petersen's excellence doesn't change wash away your doogy sins. Nor mine.
6. "No one in the conference talks about Taylor Rapp". I disagree pretty strongly here. I've seen him get tons of love this offseason. Every national or regional article talks about how UW is in good shape to replace the secondary thank especially to Taylor Rapp. Subjective awards bullshit plays well in such quarters and his frosh DPOY was big time, as were his four picks in UW's two biggest conference games. I know you still have a chip on your collective shoulders because he was chronically undervalued by the TBS sites but those days are behind us now. He's not being overlooked anymore.
7. DDY, great fucking info on Pete's player development prowess. Especially loved the data on how much better he was at turning 2 stars into first rounders at Boise than everyone else. He's the shit.
8. Enjoyed the data on how many offers we? have out vis a vis other programs as well. @CokeGreaterThanPepsi any chance you also have our current number of 2019 offers relative to USC and Oregon?
9. Qualls isn't a dumbass for coming out. He's a dumbass for not getting in shape. He had damn near four months from the BAMA game to the draft. If he gave a shit he could have done fine in the draft, because as you guys noted, he had the tape. But if he didn't give a shit about his draft stock (and he obviously didn't), it wouldn't have gotten better next year. He wasn't going to put up better tape next season. And he wouldn't have come back as the man on the DL either. That was always going to be Vea.
In conclusion, yes he's a dumbass. But for different reasons than you guys cited.
10. Really interesting discussion about what Pac12 (Ten!) school you would choose after UW if you wanted to get drafted. Utah is a great choice for everyone except WR and QB as someone (Teq?) noted. I think you guys are underrating Stanford though. My guess (and I could be wrong) is that this year was an anomaly and Shaw does a lot better than 2 picks per draft. Even so, two first round picks is two first round picks. I think Stanford has to be in the discussion.
The interesting school to me is Colorado, specifically in the secondary. Their secondary was great last year, and really well coached/developed. Great athletes too. The question is, was this a Leavitt thing, or a DB coach (and if so, did he stick around or jump ship as well? Little help @BuffBuffPass?). My guess is Colorado is no longer a thing with Leavitt gone, but it will be chinteresting to see develop.
11. ?
12. Profit
I have to imagine the secondary will take a step back this year, losing 3 draft picks. However, the replacements played well in limited duty last year and there are a couple JC guys coming in. I'd expect them to be OK, but not great.
My hope is one day we have a fan from every other school to talk about them with.
The problem is no one even knows Arizona has a football team, so that's going to be a tough nut to crack.
And Stanford? How do we find the Stanford fan? He's elusive.
That was some uncomfortable shit.
