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Paglia: Trump Already Headed Towards Reelection, Democrats Have Overplayed Their Hand

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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    I agree with a lot of what she said about the democrats and the media. but I still disagree with her conclusion. trump barely squeezed out the win last election and has already alienated so much of his support.
    someone will win by default just like last time and my guess is it will not be trump again. could change.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    I wouldn't put it past the democrats to run another sellout bullshitter like cory booker though. that's the only chance I think trump has
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    dhdawg said:

    I agree with a lot of what she said about the democrats and the media. but I still disagree with her conclusion. trump barely squeezed out the win last election and has already alienated so much of his support.
    someone will win by default just like last time and my guess is it will not be trump again. could change.

    Trump's supporters haven't waivered. His popularity is higher now than on Election Day. Let your anger continue to consume you.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    dhdawg said:

    I agree with a lot of what she said about the democrats and the media. but I still disagree with her conclusion. trump barely squeezed out the win last election and has already alienated so much of his support.
    someone will win by default just like last time and my guess is it will not be trump again. could change.

    Trump's supporters haven't waivered. His popularity is higher now than on Election Day. Let your anger continue to consume you.
    It's one thing to support Trump. It's another have such unwavering devotion to be blind to facts.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    What movement on healthcare? Movement towards the plan that had 17% approval nationwide?
    It'll have more to do with who the dems than anything.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    I DISAGREE with Camile Paglia on many, many things but have always respected her. She's a symmetrical thinker.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    So what are you so worried about?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    So what are you so worried about?
    No worries. Just pointing out you got conned. Not surprised you are ok with it.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    So what are you so worried about?
    No worries. Just pointing out you got conned. Not surprised you are ok with it.
    Huh?

    I'm not a Republican.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    With Grosuch in, and likely another Justice in the next 3 years, I'm ok with this.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,090 Founders Club
    3 months in the best news is that Hilary still isn't president. What Trump has done so far is fine. everyone with half a brain knew what he was doing.

    Immigration is at the front now, ICE is energized, and wall or no wall the fight is on with Sanctuary cities.

    Health care and tax reform are not microwave popcorn The work being done doesn't always show up on the scoreboard.

    Speaking of which

    Scoreboard Baby
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    You finally admit how gullible you are. Baby steps
    I admit it1!1!

    So long as free-trade, globalist policies and economics continue unabated, as they are, I am more than happy. It means skilled, educated people will continue to flourish and lead the US and global economy. Winners win. I feel bad for you "burn it all down" bumpkins but I will get over it.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    3 months in the best news is that Hilary still isn't president. What Trump has done so far is fine. everyone with half a brain knew what he was doing.

    Immigration is at the front now, ICE is energized, and wall or no wall the fight is on with Sanctuary cities.

    Health care and tax reform are not microwave popcorn The work being done doesn't always show up on the scoreboard.

    Speaking of which

    Scoreboard Baby

    That's the joke.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,090 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    You finally admit how gullible you are. Baby steps
    I admit it1!1!

    So long as free-trade, globalist policies and economics continue unabated, as they are, I am more than happy. It means skilled, educated people will continue to flourish and lead the US and global economy. Winners win. I feel bad for you "burn it all down" bumpkins but I will get over it.
    Nobody cared about educated skilled people coming here.

    Today's LA Times has a front page article on - shit - construction wages are way down compared to 40 years ago. Used to be unionized and good paying. Now shit pay, non union and mostly (illegal) immigrants.

    If you care at all about your fellow man you would care about this. Its why Trump won.

    He is also making headway in trade. He wants better deals, not no deals.

    Those of us who live on how well we can get money out of people understand the tactics
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited April 2017

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    You finally admit how gullible you are. Baby steps
    I admit it1!1!

    So long as free-trade, globalist policies and economics continue unabated, as they are, I am more than happy. It means skilled, educated people will continue to flourish and lead the US and global economy. Winners win. I feel bad for you "burn it all down" bumpkins but I will get over it.
    Trump did sign an EO that makes it less desirable for Employers to bring in a less expensive Mujibur to write code. We'll see if it has an impact on how companies hire in the future. And please save the whole" well he hired cheap immigrants to his companies" as those were the rules in place at the time.

    Most people in the USA would rather see it's Citizens get jobs that they are qualified for instead of an immigrant. How about you?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    You finally admit how gullible you are. Baby steps
    I admit it1!1!

    So long as free-trade, globalist policies and economics continue unabated, as they are, I am more than happy. It means skilled, educated people will continue to flourish and lead the US and global economy. Winners win. I feel bad for you "burn it all down" bumpkins but I will get over it.
    Trump did sign an EO that makes it less desirable for Employers to bring in a less expensive Mujibur to write code. We'll see if it has an impact on how companies hire in the future. And please save the whole" well he hired cheap immigrants to his companies" as those were the rules in place at the time.

    Most people in the USA would rather see it's Citizens get jobs that they are qualified for instead of an immigrant. How about you?
    What do you know about being qualified for a job?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    You finally admit how gullible you are. Baby steps
    I admit it1!1!

    So long as free-trade, globalist policies and economics continue unabated, as they are, I am more than happy. It means skilled, educated people will continue to flourish and lead the US and global economy. Winners win. I feel bad for you "burn it all down" bumpkins but I will get over it.
    Nobody cared about educated skilled people coming here.

    Today's LA Times has a front page article on - shit - construction wages are way down compared to 40 years ago. Used to be unionized and good paying. Now shit pay, non union and mostly (illegal) immigrants.

    If you care at all about your fellow man you would care about this. Its why Trump won.

    He is also making headway in trade. He wants better deals, not no deals.

    Those of us who live on how well we can get money out of people understand the tactics
    What is Trump going to do to fix that?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    You finally admit how gullible you are. Baby steps
    I admit it1!1!

    So long as free-trade, globalist policies and economics continue unabated, as they are, I am more than happy. It means skilled, educated people will continue to flourish and lead the US and global economy. Winners win. I feel bad for you "burn it all down" bumpkins but I will get over it.
    Trump did sign an EO that makes it less desirable for Employers to bring in a less expensive Mujibur to write code. We'll see if it has an impact on how companies hire in the future. And please save the whole" well he hired cheap immigrants to his companies" as those were the rules in place at the time.

    Most people in the USA would rather see it's Citizens get jobs that they are qualified for instead of an immigrant. How about you?
    What do you know about being qualified for a job?
    Fake it until you make it.

    Answer the question pajama boy.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    You finally admit how gullible you are. Baby steps
    I admit it1!1!

    So long as free-trade, globalist policies and economics continue unabated, as they are, I am more than happy. It means skilled, educated people will continue to flourish and lead the US and global economy. Winners win. I feel bad for you "burn it all down" bumpkins but I will get over it.
    Nobody cared about educated skilled people coming here.

    Today's LA Times has a front page article on - shit - construction wages are way down compared to 40 years ago. Used to be unionized and good paying. Now shit pay, non union and mostly (illegal) immigrants.

    If you care at all about your fellow man you would care about this. Its why Trump won.

    He is also making headway in trade. He wants better deals, not no deals.

    Those of us who live on how well we can get money out of people understand the tactics
    What is Trump going to do to fix that?
    Deportation.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,090 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    You finally admit how gullible you are. Baby steps
    I admit it1!1!

    So long as free-trade, globalist policies and economics continue unabated, as they are, I am more than happy. It means skilled, educated people will continue to flourish and lead the US and global economy. Winners win. I feel bad for you "burn it all down" bumpkins but I will get over it.
    Nobody cared about educated skilled people coming here.

    Today's LA Times has a front page article on - shit - construction wages are way down compared to 40 years ago. Used to be unionized and good paying. Now shit pay, non union and mostly (illegal) immigrants.

    If you care at all about your fellow man you would care about this. Its why Trump won.

    He is also making headway in trade. He wants better deals, not no deals.

    Those of us who live on how well we can get money out of people understand the tactics
    What is Trump going to do to fix that?
    its hardly a mystery you fucking moron
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    I couldnt give a shit if he started world war 3 and ended the world in nuclear Holocaust. Watching pansy ass social justice warriors cry is amazing.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The media will continue to smear him and he will win because of it, not in spite of it.

    That's great news for fans of moderate, Establishment-centered government. Trump has clearly served notice that his campaign tenets of nationalism and protectionist economics were pure bullshit intended to lure in gullible rubes (he was successful). Now he's "governing" as a moderate and rightly earning praise. As everyone knew, there won't be tariffs, trade wars, border walls, Ex-Im Bank will remain as will the Paris climate treaty, Obamacare is the law of the land and China is not a currency manipulator. The administration is loaded with free trade advocates and Wall Street alums. The Establishment wins again. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    You finally admit how gullible you are. Baby steps
    I admit it1!1!

    So long as free-trade, globalist policies and economics continue unabated, as they are, I am more than happy. It means skilled, educated people will continue to flourish and lead the US and global economy. Winners win. I feel bad for you "burn it all down" bumpkins but I will get over it.
    Nobody cared about educated skilled people coming here.

    Today's LA Times has a front page article on - shit - construction wages are way down compared to 40 years ago. Used to be unionized and good paying. Now shit pay, non union and mostly (illegal) immigrants.

    If you care at all about your fellow man you would care about this. Its why Trump won.

    He is also making headway in trade. He wants better deals, not no deals.

    Those of us who live on how well we can get money out of people understand the tactics
    What is Trump going to do to fix that?
    its hardly a mystery you fucking moron
    Didn't think you had an answer.