There are things to be optimistic about but it's a little disheartening to hire an assistant. I can't recall any former assistant getting a P-5 job and becoming great. That said I kind of figured UW would hire a younger, up and coming coach. Maybe we found our Billy Donovan. Good to see that you don't pay much attention ...Let's start with Roy Williams ... North Carolina --> KansasLet's start with Tom Izzo ... promoted from the bench at Michigan St Chris Collins is well on his way ... It's fair to say it's more common in football because the number of quality jobs differ significantly. In basketball, it typically doesn't happen this way given the number of conferences in place and the general acceptance that after paying your dues on a big staff you go to a smaller conference where you have a 2-4 year run where you dominate your smaller conference and prove that you're a big fish in a small pond.But to draw a conclusion that for a coach to be good they have to have paid their dues at some smaller school isn't accurate either. Now you're just being a bitter bitch because of some light hearted ribbing over your dooginess. I was thinking more recent, but still. Collins has had one good season. I can think of many more assistants who failed. There are quite a few Dukies before Collins that failed. Like you kind of mentioned, most of the time they go to a mid major to earn their stripes and get an initial p-5 job.I didn't draw any conclusion. I just don't love hiring the assistant, even a highly respected one like Hopkins. I don't hate it either. Just commenting on a hoops message board about the new hire.
There are things to be optimistic about but it's a little disheartening to hire an assistant. I can't recall any former assistant getting a P-5 job and becoming great. That said I kind of figured UW would hire a younger, up and coming coach. Maybe we found our Billy Donovan. Good to see that you don't pay much attention ...Let's start with Roy Williams ... North Carolina --> KansasLet's start with Tom Izzo ... promoted from the bench at Michigan St Chris Collins is well on his way ... It's fair to say it's more common in football because the number of quality jobs differ significantly. In basketball, it typically doesn't happen this way given the number of conferences in place and the general acceptance that after paying your dues on a big staff you go to a smaller conference where you have a 2-4 year run where you dominate your smaller conference and prove that you're a big fish in a small pond.But to draw a conclusion that for a coach to be good they have to have paid their dues at some smaller school isn't accurate either.
There are things to be optimistic about but it's a little disheartening to hire an assistant. I can't recall any former assistant getting a P-5 job and becoming great. That said I kind of figured UW would hire a younger, up and coming coach. Maybe we found our Billy Donovan.
From what I've read the USC situation was hit or miss as he was interested in the job but Syracuse made a run to the Final Four and that pushed them to make the decision to take on Enfield versus the potential that Hopkins wasn't going to take the job ... apparently SC also didn't feel like he was ready to leave Syracuse.I've heard nothing on Oregon State other than what you're saying @Gladstone ...The USC/UW jobs would be more consistent with what he's publicly stated on the types of jobs that he'd be willing to take http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/05/montana_coach_wayne_tinkle_syr.html#incart_river_defaultBeat out by Tinkle, but let's Doog it up"Montana coach Wayne Tinkle, Syracuse assistant Mike Hopkins finalists for Oregon State Beavers' head coaching job"
From what I've read the USC situation was hit or miss as he was interested in the job but Syracuse made a run to the Final Four and that pushed them to make the decision to take on Enfield versus the potential that Hopkins wasn't going to take the job ... apparently SC also didn't feel like he was ready to leave Syracuse.I've heard nothing on Oregon State other than what you're saying @Gladstone ...The USC/UW jobs would be more consistent with what he's publicly stated on the types of jobs that he'd be willing to take
Here we go with this "learning on the job" rhetoric. You guys really overestimate what these guys do. Learn what on the job? What exactly are you so scared a guy that's been an assistant for two decades won't know how to do? I don't know anything about the success rates of hiring assistants or proven head coaches in college basketball. It definitely seems like generally guys do work their way up more so than in college football. But this guy is either a good coach or not, he's not going to struggle because of this made up learning concern you all get stuck on.
Here we go with this "learning on the job" rhetoric. You guys really overestimate what these guys do. Learn what on the job? What exactly are you so scared a guy that's been an assistant for two decades won't know how to do? I don't know anything about the success rates of hiring assistants or proven head coaches in college basketball. It definitely seems like generally guys do work their way up more so than in college football. But this guy is either a good coach or not, he's not going to struggle because of this made up learning concern you all get stuck on. Yeah no.There is a significant difference between being an individual contributor who, say, focuses on the frontcourt vs the responsibilities of a head coach. This post got a ton of chins. Am I taking crazy pills?
Doogs already love the hire, even though they had never heard of the guy before the announcement. CHRIST.Who does this describe...?No prior head coaching experienceFormer boss and media raves about him being a great coachRumored to be a great recruiterAssistant to a legendary coach at a powerhouse program???
Doogs already love the hire, even though they had never heard of the guy before the announcement. CHRIST.Who does this describe...?No prior head coaching experienceFormer boss and media raves about him being a great coachRumored to be a great recruiterAssistant to a legendary coach at a powerhouse program??? Congratulations on being the 81st poster to compare Hopkins to Sark.
Doogs already love the hire, even though they had never heard of the guy before the announcement. CHRIST.Who does this describe...?No prior head coaching experienceFormer boss and media raves about him being a great coachRumored to be a great recruiterAssistant to a legendary coach at a powerhouse program??? Congratulations on being the 81st poster to compare Hopkins to Sark. To UW fans every single coach is either Don James, Sark, Ty, or Neu.
Doogs already love the hire, even though they had never heard of the guy before the announcement. CHRIST.Who does this describe...?No prior head coaching experienceFormer boss and media raves about him being a great coachRumored to be a great recruiterAssistant to a legendary coach at a powerhouse program??? And yet again you don't get it.Least you are consistent. I don't loveit or hate it. Only saying LIPO. Sayingthe hire sucks before a ball has evenbeen rolled out is just echo chamberthinking.
Doogs already love the hire, even though they had never heard of the guy before the announcement. CHRIST.Who does this describe...?No prior head coaching experienceFormer boss and media raves about him being a great coachRumored to be a great recruiterAssistant to a legendary coach at a powerhouse program??? And yet again you don't get it.Least you are consistent. I don't loveit or hate it. Only saying LIPO. Sayingthe hire sucks before a ball has evenbeen rolled out is just echo chamberthinking. We can LIPO while still saying the hire sucks.
Doogs already love the hire, even though they had never heard of the guy before the announcement. CHRIST.Who does this describe...?No prior head coaching experienceFormer boss and media raves about him being a great coachRumored to be a great recruiterAssistant to a legendary coach at a powerhouse program??? Bob Hopkins would have been a more exciting selection.And he dead.
Doogs already love the hire, even though they had never heard of the guy before the announcement. CHRIST.Who does this describe...?No prior head coaching experienceFormer boss and media raves about him being a great coachRumored to be a great recruiterAssistant to a legendary coach at a powerhouse program??? Bob Hopkins would have been a more exciting selection.And he dead. Bob Hopkins brought Slick Watts to Seattle and then did so bad as coach that he got fired and Lenny Wilkens came in and went to two straight Finals
