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Lorenzo Romar on 2-16 league record: ‘No way I thought that would happen’
DerekJohnson
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2-16? Even I didn't think it would happen and I loathe him as a coach more than most anyone. If he truly was blindsided, he really has lost his grip.
I just read headlines though -
Just needs more time
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really is a shame he couldn't quite pull off the perfect 0-18 season
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The part that bothers me is the doog echo chamber that's been established.
If enough apologists say the buyout is the rate limiting factor, everyone just assumes that's what will keep him here, despite them never seeing the books or know what UW has available to it.
If enough people say the recruits will leave, then everyone just assumes they will and THAT is the reason to keep him, despite them not knowing that for sure.
TL:DR = No one knows if either of the major excuses are true, but they have no allegiance to UW so they just want to see Porter
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Exactly, and that's what pisses me off about the Romar doogs and their attempt at logic/common sense in defending him.MelloDawg said:The part that bothers me is the doog echo chamber that's been established.
If enough apologists say the buyout is the rate limiting factor, everyone just assumes that's what will keep him here, despite them never seeing the books or know what UW has available to it.
If enough people say the recruits will leave, then everyone just assumes they will and THAT is the reason to keep him, despite them not knowing that for sure.
TL:DR = No one knows if either of the major excuses are true, but they have no allegiance to UW so they just want to see Porter
The person Romar is, has become more important than what the coach Romar has done, and since there is no legitimate x's and o's reason's they can possibly give to save him, it's come down to the crutch of the budget doesn't allow it, and the loss of MPJ, who will be gone by the last week of March next year as a one and done.
Both of which are FS for reasons that you keep him
It's as simple as this: Six years is six years -
The first time I watched UW play Dana Altman's first Oregon team in 2010, I could see that a new era was upon us, and Romar's philosophy and coaching style were dying. Despite UW winning that game and the Pac 10 championship that year, I could see that Altman was simply a smarter, better coach than Romar, immediately. The downward slide has continued ever since, and with Miller at U of A, Alford at UCLA, and whomever is at USC, the UW is fucking fucked for a long time as of right now. Porter cannot do it alone, despite his magic, and he's gone after a Fultz-like freshman year anyway.
Pull the plug. It's fucking over. Time to start from scratch. The best recruits in the nation can't save Romar and won't save the program. Both are dead men walking.
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His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.
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Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.DerekJohnson said:His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.
It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving. -
Then explain all the superstar players we've had since then and the corresponding horrible records and no NCAA tourney appearances.dnc said:
Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.DerekJohnson said:His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.
It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.
I used to watch the Huskies back in the day, and those were fairly disciplined teams who played tenacious defense. The games I've seen in the last five years have been atrocities. Every year a very poorly coached team with no concept of defense. Your explanation doesn't hold water. -
Neither does yours. It 100% can't be Bone because he wasn't even here for most of the success. Watch a single Seattle U game and you'll know it wasn't Dollar.DerekJohnson said:
Then explain all the superstar players we've had since then and the corresponding horrible records and no NCAA tourney appearances.dnc said:
Stop it with this doogism. Romar went to four out of six of his NCAAs without Bone, including 2 of the three Sweet 16s. And massive lol at the idea Dollar was an X's and O's guy. If he was worth a damn at X's and O's he wouldn't be a complete failure at Seattle U.DerekJohnson said:His philosophy wasn't dying. He was reliant on Cameron Dollar and Ken Bone for X's and O's. As soon as they left, we lost all discipline and competency.
It was Roy and IT (plus Nate/Will/Bobby and Brockman/Pondexter/MBA) that elevated those first teams. Not two coaches who have sucked total ass since leaving.
I used to watch the Huskies back in the day, and those were fairly disciplined teams who played tenacious defense. The games I've seen in the last five years have been atrocities. Every year a very poorly coached team with no concept of defense. Your explanation doesn't hold water.
It's pretty simple honestly. It's not about just having talent, it's about having experienced talent. Other than the very first tourney team the other 5 all had multiple all conference caliber upperclassmen or a senior who was the best player in the conference.
05: jr Roy, jr Robinson, sr Conroy, jr Jones (plus sr Tre Murder)
06: Roy (best player in the country), Jones (plus sr Jamaal Williams)
09: sr Dentmon, sr Brockman
10: sr Pondexter (best player in the conference)
11: jr Thomas, sr MBA, sr Holiday
Look at the upperclassmen on the teams since then. The best upperclassmen, arguably the only one worth anything, was Andrew Andrews as a senior. And Andrews wasn't close to the caliber of best player on any of those tourney teams.
The other "superstars" you reference never made it to their junior year. Highest year they were here for:
Ross - sophomore
Wroten - frosh
NWG - soph
Murray - frosh
Chriss - frosh
Fultz - frosh
Romar lucked out early on with a fucking superstar in Roy who couldn't leave early because he was too unselfish early on then jacked his knee up right when he was blowing up as a junior. Then he lucked out with Brockman who couldn't go early because he was too short, then Pondexter who couldn't go early because he underachieved his first two and a half years, then with IT who was 5'8" but finally said fuck it I'm not getting any taller I'll skip my senior year and get this started.
All of those guys went on to play in the NBA (as did Justin Holiday, plus Jones and Conroy who got NBA cups of coffee, I think Dentmon did too). And Nate had a long NBA career and made it til his junior year.
That's ten guys who played in the NBA who made it to at least their junior year at UW in Romar's first 8 years. None in the last 6 years.
It had shit to do with assistant coach x's and o's.
