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What makes Romar a "good man"
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Disagree.DerekJohnson said:
Romar makes Ernie Kent look like John WoodenPurpleThrobber said:
Aside from religious, you just described Ernie Kent.bananasnblondes said:He's a black coach who is strongly religious, well-spoken, mild-mannered, and has experienced a moderate degree of success.
And, hell, King David himself lay down with Bathsheba so maybe Ernie is one religious motherfucker too.
I'm hearing @romariswooden -
We'll, because he is. I've run into him (figuratively, not literally), and he was personable, nice, and engaging. He's a great human being. That said, fire him.
I met Sark before and he hardly gave me the time of day, probably because I didn't have tits, a bottle of tequila, or I wasn't down on my knees ala Kent Griswold. -
It's just strange that being a good guy even matters.
UW basketball is historically a shit program. Before this year, Romar had winning records and for a program that doesn't have standards, that's good enough.
No reason that UW can't be good, but it's a shit program. I doubt anybody in CBB talks about UW. Coaches from the East Coast probably don't even talk shit about what a bad coach Romar is because they don't care.
I don't hold Overton or Upshaw against Romar at all though. Trying to better someone's life and caring about them isn't a bad thing, especially with Upshaw.
Overton's situation is/was gross but I do believe Romar was trying to do the right thing and help a kid he cared about. He should have been booted but it doesn't make Romar a bad guy. -
UW was shit with Nance and Bender but historically it's in the upper half of the conference. Harshman just had the misfortune of coaching when the NCAA only took one PAC-8 team and UCLA was it.
History is a shit reason for keeping Romar. Better than Andy Russo is grasping. -
The idea that Washington is a shit program in men's hoops historically just isn't supported by the facts ... it takes less than 5 minutes to look the shit up and realize that it's not a terrible program.PurpleThrobber said:UW was shit with Nance and Bender but historically it's in the upper half of the conference. Harshman just had the misfortune of coaching when the NCAA only took one PAC-8 team and UCLA was it.
History is a shit reason for keeping Romar. Better than Andy Russo is grasping.
UW coaches since 1921:
Hec Edmundson
UW Overall Record: 488-195
Conference Record: 258-130
Conference Championships: 12
Art McLarney
UW Overall Record: 53-36
Conference Record: 24-24
Conference Championships: 1
Tippy Dye
UW Overall Record: 156-91
Conference Record: 94-50
Conference Championships: 3
John Grayson
UW Overall Record: 57-49
Conference Record: 19-28
Conference Championships: 0
Mac Duckworth
UW Overall Record: 53-74
Conference Record: 24-47
Conference Championships: 0
Tex Winter
UW Overall Record: 45-35
Conference Record: 19-23
Conference Championships: 0
Marv Harshman
UW Overall Record: 246-146
Conference Record: 122-102
Conference Championships: 2
Andy Russo
UW Overall Record: 61-62
Conference Record: 36-36
Conference Championships: 0
Lynn Nance
UW Overall Record: 50-62
Conference Record: 22-50
Conference Championships: 0
Bob Bender
UW Overall Record: 116-142
Conference Record: 63-99
Conference Championships: 0
Lorenzo Romar (through 2016 season)
UW Overall Record: 281-159
Conference Record: 138-100
Conference Championships: 2 (Regular Season), 3 (Conference Tournament)
What we know about UW program:
1) There's plenty of talent in the greater Seattle area to serve as a foundation for a program provided the coach can keep the balance of the talent home ...
2) When we've had a good coach in place, the program as a whole has had reasonable success ... over an almost 100 year period we've won our conference 20 times ... from from terrible.
3) If you look through the history of the program, what stands out is that we're historically very bad when it comes to hiring coaches. It's very likely Romar will never have another HC job unless he goes to Missouri ... where he'll fall on his face there. Bender has never held a head coaching job after leaving Washington. Nance was never a HC again and Russo was a head coach only at lower levels. Harshman retired ... Tex Winter was hired to be HC of the Houston Rockets and had a lengthy and very successful coaching career. In the grand scheme of things, since the time that Tippy Dye left to become an AD, UW has made only 3 decent to good hires ... Winter, Harshman, and Romar ... Bender arguable.
UW as a whole isn't that complicated ... when we make good hires (regardless of the sport), we have the horsepower to compete at a high level. When we make uninspired hire, we suck. -
The three coaches before Romar had losing records. You're seriously counting Hec Edmunson's 12 titles? Jesus dude.Tequilla said:
The idea that Washington is a shit program in men's hoops historically just isn't supported by the facts ... it takes less than 5 minutes to look the shit up and realize that it's not a terrible program.PurpleThrobber said:UW was shit with Nance and Bender but historically it's in the upper half of the conference. Harshman just had the misfortune of coaching when the NCAA only took one PAC-8 team and UCLA was it.
History is a shit reason for keeping Romar. Better than Andy Russo is grasping.
UW coaches since 1921:
Hec Edmundson
UW Overall Record: 488-195
Conference Record: 258-130
Conference Championships: 12
Art McLarney
UW Overall Record: 53-36
Conference Record: 24-24
Conference Championships: 1
Tippy Dye
UW Overall Record: 156-91
Conference Record: 94-50
Conference Championships: 3
John Grayson
UW Overall Record: 57-49
Conference Record: 19-28
Conference Championships: 0
Mac Duckworth
UW Overall Record: 53-74
Conference Record: 24-47
Conference Championships: 0
Tex Winter
UW Overall Record: 45-35
Conference Record: 19-23
Conference Championships: 0
Marv Harshman
UW Overall Record: 246-146
Conference Record: 122-102
Conference Championships: 2
Andy Russo
UW Overall Record: 61-62
Conference Record: 36-36
Conference Championships: 0
Lynn Nance
UW Overall Record: 50-62
Conference Record: 22-50
Conference Championships: 0
Bob Bender
UW Overall Record: 116-142
Conference Record: 63-99
Conference Championships: 0
Lorenzo Romar (through 2016 season)
UW Overall Record: 281-159
Conference Record: 138-100
Conference Championships: 2 (Regular Season), 3 (Conference Tournament)
What we know about UW program:
1) There's plenty of talent in the greater Seattle area to serve as a foundation for a program provided the coach can keep the balance of the talent home ...
2) When we've had a good coach in place, the program as a whole has had reasonable success ... over an almost 100 year period we've won our conference 20 times ... from from terrible.
3) If you look through the history of the program, what stands out is that we're historically very bad when it comes to hiring coaches. It's very likely Romar will never have another HC job unless he goes to Missouri ... where he'll fall on his face there. Bender has never held a head coaching job after leaving Washington. Nance was never a HC again and Russo was a head coach only at lower levels. Harshman retired ... Tex Winter was hired to be HC of the Houston Rockets and had a lengthy and very successful coaching career. In the grand scheme of things, since the time that Tippy Dye left to become an AD, UW has made only 3 decent to good hires ... Winter, Harshman, and Romar ... Bender arguable.
UW as a whole isn't that complicated ... when we make good hires (regardless of the sport), we have the horsepower to compete at a high level. When we make uninspired hire, we suck.
Of course a good coach could win at UW. It's still a shit program until proven otherwise. No one on this board has seen UW make it past the Sweet 16 once. -
1953 Final Four. Race was there.RoadDawg55 said:
The three coaches before Romar had losing records. You're seriously counting Hec Edmunson's 12 titles? Jesus dude.Tequilla said:
The idea that Washington is a shit program in men's hoops historically just isn't supported by the facts ... it takes less than 5 minutes to look the shit up and realize that it's not a terrible program.PurpleThrobber said:UW was shit with Nance and Bender but historically it's in the upper half of the conference. Harshman just had the misfortune of coaching when the NCAA only took one PAC-8 team and UCLA was it.
History is a shit reason for keeping Romar. Better than Andy Russo is grasping.
UW coaches since 1921:
Hec Edmundson
UW Overall Record: 488-195
Conference Record: 258-130
Conference Championships: 12
Art McLarney
UW Overall Record: 53-36
Conference Record: 24-24
Conference Championships: 1
Tippy Dye
UW Overall Record: 156-91
Conference Record: 94-50
Conference Championships: 3
John Grayson
UW Overall Record: 57-49
Conference Record: 19-28
Conference Championships: 0
Mac Duckworth
UW Overall Record: 53-74
Conference Record: 24-47
Conference Championships: 0
Tex Winter
UW Overall Record: 45-35
Conference Record: 19-23
Conference Championships: 0
Marv Harshman
UW Overall Record: 246-146
Conference Record: 122-102
Conference Championships: 2
Andy Russo
UW Overall Record: 61-62
Conference Record: 36-36
Conference Championships: 0
Lynn Nance
UW Overall Record: 50-62
Conference Record: 22-50
Conference Championships: 0
Bob Bender
UW Overall Record: 116-142
Conference Record: 63-99
Conference Championships: 0
Lorenzo Romar (through 2016 season)
UW Overall Record: 281-159
Conference Record: 138-100
Conference Championships: 2 (Regular Season), 3 (Conference Tournament)
What we know about UW program:
1) There's plenty of talent in the greater Seattle area to serve as a foundation for a program provided the coach can keep the balance of the talent home ...
2) When we've had a good coach in place, the program as a whole has had reasonable success ... over an almost 100 year period we've won our conference 20 times ... from from terrible.
3) If you look through the history of the program, what stands out is that we're historically very bad when it comes to hiring coaches. It's very likely Romar will never have another HC job unless he goes to Missouri ... where he'll fall on his face there. Bender has never held a head coaching job after leaving Washington. Nance was never a HC again and Russo was a head coach only at lower levels. Harshman retired ... Tex Winter was hired to be HC of the Houston Rockets and had a lengthy and very successful coaching career. In the grand scheme of things, since the time that Tippy Dye left to become an AD, UW has made only 3 decent to good hires ... Winter, Harshman, and Romar ... Bender arguable.
UW as a whole isn't that complicated ... when we make good hires (regardless of the sport), we have the horsepower to compete at a high level. When we make uninspired hire, we suck.
Of course a good coach could win at UW. It's still a shit program until proven otherwise. No one on this board has seen UW make it past the Sweet 16 once.
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You're seriously counting Hec Edmunson's 12 titles? Jesus dude.
How dare you in any way diminish the greatness that is Clarence Sinclair Edmunson...
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The way people talk about romar he should be the President of a homeless mens shelter. "He hands out donuts and pizza", "He's always there to shake our hands", "He goes out of his way to talk to you on a personal level", "He's a good christian(#hesnotmychristian)", "He gives pimps and dealers second chances in life".
I would wager I haven't seen a game in half a decade where the announcers offered up information about something good Romar does on the basketball court.(*recruiting is not on the basketball court). It's always a stumble to defend him because he's so nice. It's almost like he's a retard and people feel the need to over compliment him so that you're not a douche for ripping the retard.
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I'm sick of the we've never been that great so we shouldn't expect much crowd. In my lifetime the program has generally underachieved but there is no reason with our resources, university, location and recruiting base that we shouldn't at least be in the top half of the conference every year. Hell, Colorado had only made the NCAAs 5 fucking times before Tad Boyle got there. And they've made it 4 out of his 6 years there.
It's all about the coach (no shit?). So who cares if we don't have Kentucky's history? If Wichita State can attract a top-tier coach who wants to be there, I'm pretty sure UW can also do so.
